knapplc Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Many LSU fans down here have said tha Pelini didn't blitz enough and force turnovers. They said he relied on having superior athletes. your right...by no means should we trust Tom Osborne's decision making capability, but rather that of a polarized LSU fan base. Amen, brotha! Quote Link to comment
HuskerExpat Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 its more we didn't blitz against arky on a 4th and 12 in overtime, consequently they got the first down and went on to win the game. This one cracks me up. I really don't think that blitzing on a 4th and 12 is the right answer most of the time. This is just a hindsight is 20/20 thing. If they would have blitzed and been burned deep, the same LSU fans would be complaining that he blitzed and should have put in a nickel package. Quote Link to comment
harp Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 its more we didn't blitz against arky on a 4th and 12 in overtime, consequently they got the first down and went on to win the game. This one cracks me up. I really don't think that blitzing on a 4th and 12 is the right answer most of the time. This is just a hindsight is 20/20 thing. If they would have blitzed and been burned deep, the same LSU fans would be complaining that he blitzed and should have put in a nickel package. well, it 4th and 12. arky has an inexperienced young qb, they have to score a td to get another ot... you have a severly banged up secondary that has been less than awesome all season long...how does "not blitzing" sound good? Quote Link to comment
HuskerExpat Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 its more we didn't blitz against arky on a 4th and 12 in overtime, consequently they got the first down and went on to win the game. This one cracks me up. I really don't think that blitzing on a 4th and 12 is the right answer most of the time. This is just a hindsight is 20/20 thing. If they would have blitzed and been burned deep, the same LSU fans would be complaining that he blitzed and should have put in a nickel package. well, it 4th and 12. arky has an inexperienced young qb, they have to score a td to get another ot... you have a severly banged up secondary that has been less than awesome all season long...how does "not blitzing" sound good? Not blitzing sounds good, because a blitz is high risk, and that situation does not call for a high risk/high reward option. If it works, you know you are going to stop them. If it doesn't, then you're putting even more pressure on your severely banged up secondary which is now undermanned to stop the receivers because you have blitzed, and are probably going to give up the first down. You just need to stop the offense from gaining more than 11 yards, so why not put in a base package, or even a nickel package, because you are relatively sure they are going to pass. The fans calling for a blitz in that situation are assuming that a blitz would be successful. If that were always true, then I guess you should have been blitzing every play. Yeah, LSU didn't blitz on that play, and it didn't work out. That doesn't mean it was the wrong call. If you play poker, you may know that in some situations you have a 95% chance of winning if you bet. Occasionally you bet in that situation and lose, because the 5% chance of losing hits. That doesn't mean you made the wrong decision, it just means you were unlucky. Quote Link to comment
harp Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 its more we didn't blitz against arky on a 4th and 12 in overtime, consequently they got the first down and went on to win the game. This one cracks me up. I really don't think that blitzing on a 4th and 12 is the right answer most of the time. This is just a hindsight is 20/20 thing. If they would have blitzed and been burned deep, the same LSU fans would be complaining that he blitzed and should have put in a nickel package. well, it 4th and 12. arky has an inexperienced young qb, they have to score a td to get another ot... you have a severly banged up secondary that has been less than awesome all season long...how does "not blitzing" sound good? Not blitzing sounds good, because a blitz is high risk, and that situation does not call for a high risk/high reward option. If it works, you know you are going to stop them. If it doesn't, then you're putting even more pressure on your severely banged up secondary which is now undermanned to stop the receivers because you have blitzed, and are probably going to give up the first down. You just need to stop the offense from gaining more than 11 yards, so why not put in a base package, or even a nickel package, because you are relatively sure they are going to pass. The fans calling for a blitz in that situation are assuming that a blitz would be successful. If that were always true, then I guess you should have been blitzing every play. Yeah, LSU didn't blitz on that play, and it didn't work out. That doesn't mean it was the wrong call. If you play poker, you may know that in some situations you have a 95% chance of winning if you bet. Occasionally you bet in that situation and lose, because the 5% chance of losing hits. That doesn't mean you made the wrong decision, it just means you were unlucky. you're assuming there were more than two wideouts. that not being the case, commiting a linebacker is as safe if not safer than not commiting one. Quote Link to comment
HuskerExpat Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 its more we didn't blitz against arky on a 4th and 12 in overtime, consequently they got the first down and went on to win the game. This one cracks me up. I really don't think that blitzing on a 4th and 12 is the right answer most of the time. This is just a hindsight is 20/20 thing. If they would have blitzed and been burned deep, the same LSU fans would be complaining that he blitzed and should have put in a nickel package. well, it 4th and 12. arky has an inexperienced young qb, they have to score a td to get another ot... you have a severly banged up secondary that has been less than awesome all season long...how does "not blitzing" sound good? Not blitzing sounds good, because a blitz is high risk, and that situation does not call for a high risk/high reward option. If it works, you know you are going to stop them. If it doesn't, then you're putting even more pressure on your severely banged up secondary which is now undermanned to stop the receivers because you have blitzed, and are probably going to give up the first down. You just need to stop the offense from gaining more than 11 yards, so why not put in a base package, or even a nickel package, because you are relatively sure they are going to pass. The fans calling for a blitz in that situation are assuming that a blitz would be successful. If that were always true, then I guess you should have been blitzing every play. Yeah, LSU didn't blitz on that play, and it didn't work out. That doesn't mean it was the wrong call. If you play poker, you may know that in some situations you have a 95% chance of winning if you bet. Occasionally you bet in that situation and lose, because the 5% chance of losing hits. That doesn't mean you made the wrong decision, it just means you were unlucky. you're assuming there were more than two wideouts. that not being the case, commiting a linebacker is as safe if not safer than not commiting one. I disagree. Just because there are only two wideouts does not mean that there will only be two potential receivers. I'm sure you've heard that tight ends and running backs are eligible receivers. Quote Link to comment
harp Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 its more we didn't blitz against arky on a 4th and 12 in overtime, consequently they got the first down and went on to win the game. This one cracks me up. I really don't think that blitzing on a 4th and 12 is the right answer most of the time. This is just a hindsight is 20/20 thing. If they would have blitzed and been burned deep, the same LSU fans would be complaining that he blitzed and should have put in a nickel package. well, it 4th and 12. arky has an inexperienced young qb, they have to score a td to get another ot... you have a severly banged up secondary that has been less than awesome all season long...how does "not blitzing" sound good? Not blitzing sounds good, because a blitz is high risk, and that situation does not call for a high risk/high reward option. If it works, you know you are going to stop them. If it doesn't, then you're putting even more pressure on your severely banged up secondary which is now undermanned to stop the receivers because you have blitzed, and are probably going to give up the first down. You just need to stop the offense from gaining more than 11 yards, so why not put in a base package, or even a nickel package, because you are relatively sure they are going to pass. The fans calling for a blitz in that situation are assuming that a blitz would be successful. If that were always true, then I guess you should have been blitzing every play. Yeah, LSU didn't blitz on that play, and it didn't work out. That doesn't mean it was the wrong call. If you play poker, you may know that in some situations you have a 95% chance of winning if you bet. Occasionally you bet in that situation and lose, because the 5% chance of losing hits. That doesn't mean you made the wrong decision, it just means you were unlucky. you're assuming there were more than two wideouts. that not being the case, commiting a linebacker is as safe if not safer than not commiting one. I disagree. Just because there are only two wideouts does not mean that there will only be two potential receivers. I'm sure you've heard that tight ends and running backs are eligible receivers. yes, but i'm also aware there are 11 defensive playes on the field. Quote Link to comment
huskervi Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 hell if they dont want him, let him stay here and have someone else make the defensive calls in the title game. His defense won the game for them on saturday Quote Link to comment
Huskerfan55 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 You gives a crap about what some LSU fans say or want! Give the guy a break he has the #3 rated defense in the country! Quote Link to comment
harp Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 hell if they dont want him, let him stay here and have someone else make the defensive calls in the title game. His defense won the game for them on saturday whatever helps you sleep at night! Quote Link to comment
harp Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 You gives a crap about what some LSU fans say or want! Give the guy a break he has the #3 rated defense in the country! way to ignore the entire thread and regurgitate blind ignorance! thanks for playing! Quote Link to comment
NPhusker Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 its more we didn't blitz against arky on a 4th and 12 in overtime, consequently they got the first down and went on to win the game. This one cracks me up. I really don't think that blitzing on a 4th and 12 is the right answer most of the time. This is just a hindsight is 20/20 thing. If they would have blitzed and been burned deep, the same LSU fans would be complaining that he blitzed and should have put in a nickel package. well, it 4th and 12. arky has an inexperienced young qb, they have to score a td to get another ot... you have a severly banged up secondary that has been less than awesome all season long...how does "not blitzing" sound good? Ok lets think about this for a second, I would venture a guess that most DC would have played this the same way Bo did in that one occassion. It might be true that he didnt blitz enough at other times but on 4 and 12 I dont think blitzing is the answer. Before i go on i would like to say i am a big fan of blizing, and getting pressure on the QB, but you have to look at the situation, and in this instance i think Pelini made the right call and Arkansas just made a play. On 4th and 12 you can give up 11 yards and still win the game. You said LSU has a "banged up secondary that has been less than aweseom all season long", well i dont know if you looked at any stats or anything before coming up with this stupid remark, but LSU currently ranks 9th in the nation in passing defense. If you ask any football fan who isnt drooling i think that would be considered awesome, all season. Also in a situation like 4th and 12 the offense can only do so much, a defense doesnt have to worry about a slant, or a 10 yard out, there isnt much threat of a run, all you have to do is keep the WR in front of you and tackle him before he gets 12 yards. Why take away another pass defender and send him after the QB(AR is 3rd in the nation in sacks allowed) when the odds of you getting to him arent that great. and put your DBs in one on one situations where a missed tackle would give up the first down. Quote Link to comment
harp Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 its more we didn't blitz against arky on a 4th and 12 in overtime, consequently they got the first down and went on to win the game. This one cracks me up. I really don't think that blitzing on a 4th and 12 is the right answer most of the time. This is just a hindsight is 20/20 thing. If they would have blitzed and been burned deep, the same LSU fans would be complaining that he blitzed and should have put in a nickel package. well, it 4th and 12. arky has an inexperienced young qb, they have to score a td to get another ot... you have a severly banged up secondary that has been less than awesome all season long...how does "not blitzing" sound good? Ok lets think about this for a second, I would venture a guess that most DC would have played this the same way Bo did in that one occassion. It might be true that he didnt blitz enough at other times but on 4 and 12 I dont think blitzing is the answer. Before i go on i would like to say i am a big fan of blizing, and getting pressure on the QB, but you have to look at the situation, and in this instance i think Pelini made the right call and Arkansas just made a play. On 4th and 12 you can give up 11 yards and still win the game. You said LSU has a "banged up secondary that has been less than aweseom all season long", well i dont know if you looked at any stats or anything before coming up with this stupid remark, but LSU currently ranks 9th in the nation in passing defense. If you ask any football fan who isnt drooling i think that would be considered awesome, all season. Also in a situation like 4th and 12 the offense can only do so much, a defense doesnt have to worry about a slant, or a 10 yard out, there isnt much threat of a run, all you have to do is keep the WR in front of you and tackle him before he gets 12 yards. Why take away another pass defender and send him after the QB(AR is 3rd in the nation in sacks allowed) when the odds of you getting to him arent that great. and put your DBs in one on one situations where a missed tackle would give up the first down. 1) watch a person named danny mccray play secondary for lsu 2) watch the lsu arkansas game 3) only talk about things you understand 4) upon completion of #1 define the word "awesome" Quote Link to comment
MadcatNU Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 If you don't want Bo, why do you care so much what we think of him? Not blitzing on 4th and 12 does sound like a mistake, in hind sight. However, i don't know much about the how the game went up to that point. If LSU had been blitzing a lot or had been getting good pressure from their D line, i could understand the decision not to go for it. Even if it was a bad call, so what. It's one call, and every coach makes a bad call once in a while. I'm fine with giving him criticism for not blitzing on 4th and 12. But at the same time, isn't the guy at least somewhat responsible for the preceeding 3 downs that apparently went well to put Arky in a bad position. Or how about his D winning the game against Tenn? Seesh. The man's defense got you into the NC game. I find it hard to believe there's not a lot more good than bad about his coaching. Quote Link to comment
Huskerfan55 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Harp go find anopther board to pl;pay on! Your the ass and lets talk ignorance because you know all about it! Quote Link to comment
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