formerfan Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 IMO the option lacked the quick strike that many of today's offenses have. While Im not going to agree or disagree, I think that NU has had its fair share of 60+ yard runs in the past 22-23 years with an option attack. And, they have piled up many of 50+ point beatings in that time too. The WCO gives us the option to get down field in a hurry with one or two big pass plays. Actually, the WCO is an offense that is a ball control offense, its not a vertical passing game, so to speak. It is important to get fast, game breaking WRs to stretch the field to open up the under-routes, or to take a 5 yd slant, break a tackle, and go 80. It really doesnt matter, because a couple of people (on this board[stuckinChicago??]) have told me recently that billy c. doesnt run the WCO Thats news to me. Quote Link to comment
JR 5 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 USC had too many close calls in 2004 to be even considered one of the best ever. 24-13 over Va Tech 31-28 over Stanford 23-17 over Cal 28-20 over Oregon St. 29-24 over UCLA NU's closest game in 1995 35-21 over Washington State NU 1995 in a laugher over USC 2004. Quote Link to comment
Eric the Red Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 USC had too many close calls in 2004 to be even considered one of the best ever.24-13 over Va Tech 31-28 over Stanford 23-17 over Cal 28-20 over Oregon St. 29-24 over UCLA NU's closest game in 1995 35-21 over Washington State NU 1995 in a laugher over USC 2004. Weren't they up 35-7 at one point, then Wash St. made a push late. Quote Link to comment
formerfan Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 USC had too many close calls in 2004 to be even considered one of the best ever.24-13 over Va Tech 31-28 over Stanford 23-17 over Cal 28-20 over Oregon St. 29-24 over UCLA NU's closest game in 1995 35-21 over Washington State NU 1995 in a laugher over USC 2004. Weren't they up 35-7 at one point, then Wash St. made a push late. Yeah, WSU had 2 late TDs against the second team, and if I remember correctly, NU still piled up like 500+ yards, and held them to around 300. WSU had like a 78yd TD run on their first play, yet ended up with like 60 yds rushing or something like that. NU fumbled the ball quite abit that game, most of them being right on the goal line as we were preparing for a TD, and I think that we had to kick 2 or 3 very short FGs. The game wasnt as close as the score idicated. Quote Link to comment
cubhusker23 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Lets see, How many NFL teams run the option??????? Multi-million dollar QB's running the ball. $$$$$$$$$out the window. The defenses in the NFL are way too fast to even try to run the option, I remember Cordell Stewart's first year in the league w/ Pitt when they tried to run the option a few times and it wasn't pretty. Quote Link to comment
Pedro Guerrero Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 WSU had an 87 yard run and ended up with 72 total rushing yards. I hope USC lose at least 1 game. Hopefully they end up like Miami in 02 and OU in 03. They were supposed to be the greatest teams ever but ended losing. The 95 NU team is the best ever by far. Quote Link to comment
HuskersGJ Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 They were the best, no doubt. Just makes me miss the option even more. The option isn't what made them great. If that were true, every team in the nation would run it. more teams should run it imo. Passing=turnovers. and the option/running the ball doesn't create turnovers?! 1999 Huskers ran the option, but TURNOVERS was what kept us from playing FSU in the champtionship that year. or the 1996 game vs ASU per a recent thread. mistakes in running the option lead to several turnovers. when the option is executed well, you can limit turnovers... gee, that sounds just like every offense, including the evil passing ones. while I very much disagree with those that say the option no longer has a place in college football, our option offenses nonetheless, saw a major dropoff. Like most systems, the option needs players and the right coaches to run it. and unfortunatly, we had too many missing pieces in the last few years. that 1995 team though, simply had no weaknesses. not even two-deep on the depth chart. I recall the sentiments in the newspapers after the Pacific game. NU only won by something like 70-21..? but that was a disapointment- the Huskers let up and went easy on 'em. Quote Link to comment
kc_husker Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 They were the best, no doubt. Just makes me miss the option even more. The option isn't what made them great. If that were true, every team in the nation would run it. more teams should run it imo. Passing=turnovers. and the option/running the ball doesn't create turnovers?! 1999 Huskers ran the option, but TURNOVERS was what kept us from playing FSU in the champtionship that year. or the 1996 game vs ASU per a recent thread. mistakes in running the option lead to several turnovers. when the option is executed well, you can limit turnovers... gee, that sounds just like every offense, including the evil passing ones. while I very much disagree with those that say the option no longer has a place in college football, our option offenses nonetheless, saw a major dropoff. Like most systems, the option needs players and the right coaches to run it. and unfortunatly, we had too many missing pieces in the last few years. that 1995 team though, simply had no weaknesses. not even two-deep on the depth chart. I recall the sentiments in the newspapers after the Pacific game. NU only won by something like 70-21..? but that was a disapointment- the Huskers let up and went easy on 'em. well put huskersGJ Quote Link to comment
huskerstag Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Honestly, I've always felt the 94 team was better simply because of they way they manhandled CU, who many people felt was the best team in several years from any school, and who also had a lot of magic working for it. Frazier was an awesome player, but that year we won with our 2nd and then 3rd string qb's leading the way the entire 2nd half of the season. Those guys could play ball. I'd have to call it a toss up, although most would disagree with me. The 96 Fiesta Bowl (played in by the 95 team, just so there's no confusion) was fun to watch. IMO Spurrier should have seen then that his system wouldn't work in the NFL. Our defense had NFL like speed and Terrel Farley had a mismatch on every play. There was no way they could protect Wuerful(sp?). That team was indeed great. Quote Link to comment
StuckinChicago Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 No one truly runs the WCO anymore, including Callahan. It is just a snappy catch phrase that fans use to act like they know what they are talking about. In a true west coast offense, you pass the ball a vast majority of the time, and there is always a short read, and intermediate read, and a deep read, none of which are more than about 10 to 15 yards down the field. The only time receivers get any deeper than that is on a busted play. Modern offenses can be more accurately called a pro style offense, and is predicated on balance, and being able to do anything, anywhere, in any situation. You can run the ball 15 times in a row, or pass that much. You can throw seven 5 yard hitches in a row, or run verticles and have every receiver on the field steaking upfield. You can dominate on the ground or in the air. The west coast offense has been run since the 80's. Quote Link to comment
kramer Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Major props from Florida St fans regarding our 1995 team. They recognize a great team when they see one Here are some quotes from the thread, then i will post a link to it. The original question asked in the thread was In a championship game, who would win? Frazier and NU or USC and Matt Lienart? In my opinion, I think NU wouldve steamrolled the current USC team. In 94 and 95, the huskers were just so physical with that option and a shutdown defense. The 95 huskers imo are the best team ever, imo. Some responses: Tolbert67:No question...the best college football team of all time. Nebraska just scored again PoseidoNole:No team in the modern era has dominated each and every game like NU did in '95. The plastering of UF's team in the Fiesta (arguably the gators' best ever) was just icing on the cake no1e:Nebraska by a landslide. This game wouldn't even be close. It would have been so dominating Leinert would have declared early and there wouldn't have been any Heisman for him. l0rddavis2:Nebraska. What they did to UF was just sick. Frazier doesn't get enough props as an all-time great. Forbidden Nole:There is maybe 3 or 4 teams EVER that wouldn't get blown out by the 95 Neb team. There prolly isn't a team that could beat that team Here is the link to the thread. It's really great to see FSU fans giving major props to NU Link Kick a$$ ....this is a great find NH... Quote Link to comment
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