huskerlex Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I think DaveH is exactly right about the option. When I used to watch games with my dad, he used to say that all the time. On the other hand, it doesn't really matter what kind of talent you have in the WCO--it will work no matter what. True, but with Blake's recruits, it should REALLY rock and role. Quote Link to comment
DaveH Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I think DaveH is exactly right about the option. When I used to watch games with my dad, he used to say that all the time. On the other hand, it doesn't really matter what kind of talent you have in the WCO--it will work no matter what. I don't know about that. It didn't work very well with Joe last year. You still need to have some ability at the key positions to make it work. Especially at QB. Quote Link to comment
DJR313 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 The days of the option are over. Do you see any NFL teams running it? No. I dunno if you can discount the option just because no one in the pros uses it. No one in the pro's used the option offense when NU was steamrolling teams in the 70's,80's and 90's. I think the main difference is that the mentality of the high school player has changed. Many kids are thinking about what will help them make it to the next level beyond college ball and learning the option offense doesn't do it for them. The option could be successful again, because football is cyclical. Just look at what is going on in the NFL this season. The 3-4 defense was big in the 70's and 80's, then everyone switched to the 4-3, now the Pats had a lot of success using the 3-4 and now everyone is switching to that. That's just an example. I just don't necessarily believe that the option is dead. Quote Link to comment
The Pompadour Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 One of the girls in my sorority was "dating" a player last year, and she said that he told her that the team hated Dailey, and that they tried not screw up to make him look bad. So you really can't say that they weren't any good last year unless you know the hole story. Â Sorry. Quote Link to comment
hoyamannn Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 One of the girls in my sorority was "dating" a player last year, and she said that he told her that the team hated Dailey, and that they tried not screw up to make him look bad. So you really can't say that they weren't any good last year unless you know the hole story. Sorry. I hope those SOB's are not on the team anymore. Tanking plays because you don't like a teammate is a bunch of crap no matter who you are. Quote Link to comment
SaiserKoze Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I agree hoya..........BS!!!!!!!!! Good thing we have fellas with strong moral values like Stu Bradley leading the way from here on out! Quote Link to comment
The Pompadour Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 You too might be suprised if you knew who I was talking about. I am just telling you what I know. You don't have to be jerks about it. Quote Link to comment
SaiserKoze Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Sorry man...I overeacted. Looks like we all have had enough of this offseason..time to play some ball. Quote Link to comment
The Pompadour Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Do men belong to sororities, you a-whole? Stop calling me "man" & "buddy". Quote Link to comment
woodchuck Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I think your right for sure. Solich was losing more games every year. And his last year doesnt count because he had new coaches. So if he would have stayed we would have probably on won 7 or 8 games last year and then got worse later. Quote Link to comment
Huskerbirdman Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Do men belong to sororities, you a-whole? Stop calling me "man" & "buddy". Hey, haven't you heard about equal opportunity and coed togetherness? Now instead of frat houses, they're called Cat houses. Quote Link to comment
The Pompadour Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I don't think there is no way that lil frankie would have won 7 or 8 last year with that team. More like 3 or 4. I've heard that 3 or 4 would be an improvemnt for him! Quote Link to comment
AR Husker Fan Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 The days of the option are over. Do you see any NFL teams running it? No. I dunno if you can discount the option just because no one in the pros uses it. No one in the pro's used the option offense when NU was steamrolling teams in the 70's,80's and 90's. I think the main difference is that the mentality of the high school player has changed. Many kids are thinking about what will help them make it to the next level beyond college ball and learning the option offense doesn't do it for them. The option could be successful again, because football is cyclical. Just look at what is going on in the NFL this season. The 3-4 defense was big in the 70's and 80's, then everyone switched to the 4-3, now the Pats had a lot of success using the 3-4 and now everyone is switching to that. That's just an example. I just don't necessarily believe that the option is dead. This is kind of funny. The year before Holtz came to Arkansas - mid 70s, perhaps '75 or '76 - he was the coach of the New York Jets. He had Namath as the starting quarterback, and some young, mobile second stringer - can't remember his name, but I think he was also from Alabama. Name might have been Hamilton.  Anyway...Holtz struck on this brillian plan. Have Namath move the team down the field with a balanced attack. When they hit the Red Zone, bring in the mobile quarterback and let him run the Veer - Holtz' favorite offense. The thinking was that since no pro team ran the Veer, defenses would be so befuddled that they would miss assignments and the Jets would score more easily.  Well, that lasted through the preseason, and perhaps a game or two into the regular season. Seems everytime the second teamer took the snap and started sliding down the line, some linebacker's eyes would light up like a kid on Christmas morning. The second teamer lived - the Veer in the pros did not. Holtz said he discovered three things (I'll have to parapharase a bit - I remember the general thrust of the quotes and some of the precise language, but no all of it):  1. "God intended Lou Holtz to coach college football - not the pros".  2. "NFL defenses are bigger, faster and stronger than any college defense - seems obvious in hindsight, but..."  3. "Pro defenses adjust quickly".  Now, I'm not posting this as "proof" that an option attack will or will not work in the pros. I just found it funny when Holtz tried it - and nearly had his quarterback decapitated. Quote Link to comment
DJR313 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Yeah, you are right, the option won't work in the pros for the last 2 reasons. Also, for the record, I was referring to the option not being dead in college football. Quote Link to comment
AR Husker Fan Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Oh, I know - again, I just thought it was a funny story that related to the thread. Quote Link to comment
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