Massachusetts Gov Vetos Bill Banning use of EBT for Porn and Tattoos

[bhamHusker]

 

 

The partisan outrage just seems disingenuous to me. It's exactly the kind of thing that I'm so beyond sick of.

 

It makes you sick when people complain about tax dollars being spent on porn? Say it isn't so.

That's a really pathetic response, even for you. That's clearly not what I was saying, and you know it (not that trolls give a damn about facts or the truth). What I'm sick of is exactly the game you and others (on either end of the political spectrum) play when trying to make political hay off of situations like this. It appears that the argument in Massachusetts isn't a disagreement over whether abuse of the EBT Card system in their state has problems that need to be fixed - all parties seem to agree on that. It's a disagreement over how to address the issues in the most effective manner. I don't know what the answer is, and I don't care really. It's for the people of Massachusetts to figure out, but people like you cranking the hyperbole machine to 11 on the subject is just nothing but useless partisan mud slinging. The people I was complaining about in my comment eschew honest discussion and debate in favor of unhinged ranting, misinformation, putting words in others mouths and ad hominem attacks. It's truly not worth wasting the calories it takes to type responses to this sort of "discourse."

[zoogs]

yep, I can certainly see and agree with where you are coming from, bham. Appreciate the explanation.

[Yossarian]

 

 

The partisan outrage just seems disingenuous to me. It's exactly the kind of thing that I'm so beyond sick of.

 

It makes you sick when people complain about tax dollars being spent on porn? Say it isn't so.

That's a really pathetic response, even for you. That's clearly not what I was saying, and you know it (not that trolls give a damn about facts or the truth). What I'm sick of is exactly the game you and others (on either end of the political spectrum) play when trying to make political hay off of situations like this. It appears that the argument in Massachusetts isn't a disagreement over whether abuse of the EBT Card system in their state has problems that need to be fixed - all parties seem to agree on that. It's a disagreement over how to address the issues in the most effective manner. I don't know what the answer is, and I don't care really. It's for the people of Massachusetts to figure out, but people like you cranking the hyperbole machine to 11 on the subject is just nothing but useless partisan mud slinging. The people I was complaining about in my comment eschew honest discussion and debate in favor of unhinged ranting, misinformation, putting words in others mouths and ad hominem attacks. It's truly not worth wasting the calories it takes to type responses to this sort of "discourse."

 

Easy with the name-calling, friend.

 

For someone who doesn't want to waste the calories it takes to type responses to these discourses, you do go on, and on, and on. Don't you have better things to do late at night? Your calory-burning response above comes off as some sort of unhinged ranting, misinformation, putting words in others mouths and ad hominem attack. I mean, really...calling me a troll?

 

And it makes you sick that someone wolud point out the waste of welfare money - but not the waste itself? That, in itself, is sickening to me.

[bhamHusker]

Easy with the name-calling, friend.

 

For someone who doesn't want to waste the calories it takes to type responses to these discourses, you do go on, and on, and on. Don't you have better things to do late at night? Your calory-burning response above comes off as some sort of unhinged ranting, misinformation, putting words in others mouths and ad hominem attack. I mean, really...calling me a troll?

 

And it makes you sick that someone wolud point out the waste of welfare money - but not the waste itself? That, in itself, is sickening to me.

Calling a duck a duck isn't name calling, "friend." On two different occasions in this thread, you've mischaracterized my position to imply that I'm not bothered by waste or fraud (the bolded portion of quote above, and with a similar comment in your previous post). I can only conclude that you're either genuinely too dim to actually understand the words that you're reading or that you're being deliberately obtuse for trollish effect. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that it's not an issue of mental acuity. In this case, I'll take the bait to defend myself and to make sure my position isn't misrepresented. This is not for your benefit so much as for other readers and participants in this thread. Pointing out that there is a fraud or waste issue isn't the problem, it's the hyperbolic "oh no, our country is screwed because the leftist Governor of Massachusetts Deval Patrick wants aid recipients in Massachusetts to use the ~500 bucks they get from the state on porn, tattoos and lotto tickets" tenor of your original post that's the problem.

 

Also, at the risk of being a bit pedantic, when someone says they're sick of something, it means they're tired of it, not that they're actually sickened by it. While I never said that anything in this discussion makes me sick or is sickening, I'll say that yes, I do fully agree that abuse of a welfare program is sickening since it needs to be spelled out for you.

[Yossarian]

Easy with the name-calling, friend.

 

For someone who doesn't want to waste the calories it takes to type responses to these discourses, you do go on, and on, and on. Don't you have better things to do late at night? Your calory-burning response above comes off as some sort of unhinged ranting, misinformation, putting words in others mouths and ad hominem attack. I mean, really...calling me a troll?

 

And it makes you sick that someone wolud point out the waste of welfare money - but not the waste itself? That, in itself, is sickening to me.

Calling a duck a duck isn't name calling, "friend." On two different occasions in this thread, you've mischaracterized my position to imply that I'm not bothered by waste or fraud (the bolded portion of quote above, and with a similar comment in your previous post). I can only conclude that you're either genuinely too dim to actually understand the words that you're reading or that you're being deliberately obtuse for trollish effect. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that it's not an issue of mental acuity. In this case, I'll take the bait to defend myself and to make sure my position isn't misrepresented. This is not for your benefit so much as for other readers and participants in this thread. Pointing out that there is a fraud or waste issue isn't the problem, it's the hyperbolic "oh no, our country is screwed because the leftist Governor of Massachusetts Deval Patrick wants aid recipients in Massachusetts to use the ~500 bucks they get from the state on porn, tattoos and lotto tickets" tenor of your original post that's the problem.

 

Also, at the risk of being a bit pedantic, when someone says they're sick of something, it means they're tired of it, not that they're actually sickened by it. I never said that anything in this discussion makes me sick or is sickening.

 

You wasted a lot of calories with that typical Cliff Clavin response.

 

I thought that when you said you were "beyond sick of" something that meant that you went through a phase that was sickening. BTW, ending a sentence with a preposition makes me sick.

[carlfense]

BTW, ending a sentence with a preposition makes me sick.

Grammar smack!

 

Then throw in a personal jab ("typical Cliff Clavin response") in your first post after decrying name calling in this very thread.

 

Rinse. Lather. Repeat.

[bhamHusker]

Grammar smack!

 

Perhaps I'm being a bit dense here, but I'm still looking for the offending preposition. I do understand his need to say something snarky when he has no legitimate response or argument to make, though.

[knapplc]

Rinse. Lather. Repeat.

 

[Yossarian]

BTW, ending a sentence with a preposition makes me sick.

Grammar smack!

 

Then throw in a personal jab ("typical Cliff Clavin response") in your first post after decrying name calling in this very thread.

 

Rinse. Lather. Repeat.

 

Oh dang. I was hoping you weren't going to respond on the taxpayers dime.

 

That was a jab at the response...not the poster.

 

Now, I don't have the time to teach you all what is a preposition and what isn't. Here's a test - can anyone tell me where the prepositions are in the following sentence: It's exactly the kind of thing that I'm so beyond sick of.

 

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Cliff?

[knapplc]

 

Bueller. Bueller.

 

 

(you just read that in Ben Stein's voice)

 

 

 

 

 

 

But anyoldwho, prepositions at the end of sentences aren't wrong. Grammar is wrong there. Does anyone really think the sentence reads better if you write, "It's exactly the kind of thing of which I'm so beyond sick." ? No. No, it doesn't.

[bhamHusker]

Ahh. My mistake was only considering the post to which you were responding (see what I did there? lulz). I'm not always terribly precise with my grammar when hurrying through posts, but then again, I'm not the one doing the grammar nazi thing. In any event, Knapp's right.

[Yossarian]

 

Bueller. Bueller.

 

 

(you just read that in Ben Stein's voice)

 

 

 

 

 

 

But anyoldwho, prepositions at the end of sentences aren't wrong. Grammar is wrong there. Does anyone really think the sentence reads better if you write, "It's exactly the kind of thing of which I'm so beyond sick." ? No. No, it doesn't.

 

I didn't say that it was necessarily grammatically wrong - I simply said it made me sick. It's what sounds right that is usually best. Very few people answer the question, "Who's there," with "It's I." The almost always say "It's me." And that sounds right. Just as "so beyond sick of," sounds right.

[Yossarian]

Ahh. My mistake was only considering the post to which you were responding (see what I did there? lulz). I'm not always terribly precise with my grammar when hurrying through posts, but then again, I'm not the one doing the grammar nazi thing. In any event, Knapp's right.

 

If you weren't so pedantic in your posts, you'd be forgiven for your apparent lack of knowledge of prescriptive versus descriptive grammar. Is that Cliff Clavinesque or what?

[carlfense]

Oh dang. I was hoping you weren't going to respond on the taxpayers dime.

Different hat at the moment.

 

That was a jab at the response...not the poster.

Mmmmhmmmm. What about the jab at me in this very post? You seem to be pathologically averse to consistency. I guess that makes you a Romney supporter.

[carlfense]

Rinse. Lather. Repeat.

 

I tend to get colds in the winter.