HuskerShark

I agree with that 100%. I think he needs to stay away from overly provocative statements, but a big selling point of his is that he's real and authentic.

Regarding your last sentence, unless you've experienced it you not only don't have a clue, you have no right to judge it. I went to college for 4.5 years, got involved with network marketing a couple years ago and learned 1000 times more valuable info through national and regional trainings in MLM than I ever learned in college and high school combined. Took 5.5 years to squeeze 4 years of college in. Mostly because my first 3 years were totally wasted with me thinking drinking beer and toquilla and chasing women were more important than going to class. Changed majors after my junior year and finally got serious. After Sophomore year, ran out of money so I was working full time while going to school full time. Had many friends who either had the same experience as me or actually took it serious, got a good education (from start to finish) and have great jobs because of it. Still, the way I went through, and after getting serious about it sometime in my 3rd year, I wouldn't have been able to do anything like what I have been able to do. Worked for a fortune 500 company for 3 years, started my own business and ran it for 13 years. Became sales manager of a decent sized company and now am in management. Soooo....yes....I have lived it. I have been everything from the total f#*k up in college to the serious kid trying to actually get a degree and make a life for myself. Sooooo....yes....I can judge and have my own opinion...thanks..... And...BTW....I am very happy that you have found success in network marketing. I happen to know a number of people who completely failed at it also and found it a total waste of time and effort. Glad someone has made it big in it. I am not going to misrepresent myself. I havent made much in network marketing. The point I'm making is that the training was much more valuable and much less expensive and way more interactive than any college education. Just because you had no business going to college doesn't mean most of the population shouldn't. Sorry, but in the current system and situation, most people shouldn't be going to college. Sending kids there is starting them way behind in life.

Regarding your last sentence, unless you've experienced it you not only don't have a clue, you have no right to judge it. I went to college for 4.5 years, got involved with network marketing a couple years ago and learned 1000 times more valuable info through national and regional trainings in MLM than I ever learned in college and high school combined. Took 5.5 years to squeeze 4 years of college in. Mostly because my first 3 years were totally wasted with me thinking drinking beer and toquilla and chasing women were more important than going to class. Changed majors after my junior year and finally got serious. After Sophomore year, ran out of money so I was working full time while going to school full time. Had many friends who either had the same experience as me or actually took it serious, got a good education (from start to finish) and have great jobs because of it. Still, the way I went through, and after getting serious about it sometime in my 3rd year, I wouldn't have been able to do anything like what I have been able to do. Worked for a fortune 500 company for 3 years, started my own business and ran it for 13 years. Became sales manager of a decent sized company and now am in management. Soooo....yes....I have lived it. I have been everything from the total f#*k up in college to the serious kid trying to actually get a degree and make a life for myself. Sooooo....yes....I can judge and have my own opinion...thanks..... And...BTW....I am very happy that you have found success in network marketing. I happen to know a number of people who completely failed at it also and found it a total waste of time and effort. Glad someone has made it big in it. I am not going to misrepresent myself. I havent made much in network marketing. The point I'm making is that the training was much more valuable and much less expensive and way more interactive than any college education.

I think when you start dismantling government programs in the name of Small Government, even the most conservative quickly learn how much they depend on the federal government for SOMETHING. They may hate that inner city crack moms are getting food stamps... The primary role of the (our) government should be to protect the freedom and rights of our people. Not to reform, install new programs, new bills, etc. That's big government. Yes, we need a government like the one that was set up in our constitution to establish the basis for what is acceptable and not. But we've come in this country to our government over-regulating, over-taxing, and over-intervening in areas of every day life they shouldn't be involved in. Yes, the government currently provides semi-socialist programs that certain people are dependent upon. But the average American ought to seek for total freedom and a free marketplace to go out and make things happen and provide for their families instead of being dictated how to do so. The average American still has the freedom to reject all those government benefits, but they almost never do. The Free Marketplace could reject those big government benefits, too, but of course they don't. Again, you haven't been very specific. Who is preventing you from providing for your family? Who is dictating how to do so? What freedoms have you lost to big government? You do realize that the "free marketplace" dictates terms as well, and would happily return to child labor, the 7 day work week, and unfettered air and water pollution. What Made America Great has always been a Big Government/Big Business collaboration; inherently contentious but often productive and it didn't require choosing sides. Successful business people do work 7 days a week, first off. Here would be the main specific that I'd point out: the average American works the first 3-4+ months of the year just to pay the government in the form of taxes and social security, Medicare, etc. That's WAY too much, but the government keeps asking for more historically because they have been incompetent, unable to control their spending, and enable systemic corruption in their departments. It all needs torn apart and reformatted. Like most people I'd prefer smarter government. Smaller or bigger, doesn't matter as neither has a monopoly on efficiency. If you think efficiency is built into profit motives and free enterprise, you haven't worked for a large corporation. If America was run more like a business, you'd still have bureaucracy, corruption, egos and rampant CYA mindsets. And you do realize that Americans used to pay higher taxes -- often much higher -- back in the days Donald Trump wants to return us to, right? p.s.: Social Security, Medicare, Federal Infrastructure and tons of other so-called "social" programs have a massive positive effect on private enterprise, and every responsible corporate executive understands that. So you're ok with working January through April just to pay the government? I guess you can categorize my views on taxes as libertarian, but that seems like a waste of my time and energy personally.

I think when you start dismantling government programs in the name of Small Government, even the most conservative quickly learn how much they depend on the federal government for SOMETHING. They may hate that inner city crack moms are getting food stamps... The primary role of the (our) government should be to protect the freedom and rights of our people. Not to reform, install new programs, new bills, etc. That's big government. Yes, we need a government like the one that was set up in our constitution to establish the basis for what is acceptable and not. But we've come in this country to our government over-regulating, over-taxing, and over-intervening in areas of every day life they shouldn't be involved in. Yes, the government currently provides semi-socialist programs that certain people are dependent upon. But the average American ought to seek for total freedom and a free marketplace to go out and make things happen and provide for their families instead of being dictated how to do so. The average American still has the freedom to reject all those government benefits, but they almost never do. The Free Marketplace could reject those big government benefits, too, but of course they don't. Again, you haven't been very specific. Who is preventing you from providing for your family? Who is dictating how to do so? What freedoms have you lost to big government? You do realize that the "free marketplace" dictates terms as well, and would happily return to child labor, the 7 day work week, and unfettered air and water pollution. What Made America Great has always been a Big Government/Big Business collaboration; inherently contentious but often productive and it didn't require choosing sides. Successful business people do work 7 days a week, first off. Here would be the main specific that I'd point out: the average American works the first 3-4+ months of the year just to pay the government in the form of taxes and social security, Medicare, etc. That's WAY too much, but the government keeps asking for more historically because they have been incompetent, unable to control their spending, and enable systemic corruption in their departments. It all needs torn apart and reformatted.

If we hear nothing how did you hear it? Trending on Facebook. But I haven't seen media reporting it.

Regarding your last sentence, unless you've experienced it you not only don't have a clue, you have no right to judge it. I went to college for 4.5 years, got involved with network marketing a couple years ago and learned 1000 times more valuable info through national and regional trainings in MLM than I ever learned in college and high school combined.

I think when you start dismantling government programs in the name of Small Government, even the most conservative quickly learn how much they depend on the federal government for SOMETHING. They may hate that inner city crack moms are getting food stamps... The primary role of the (our) government should be to protect the freedom and rights of our people. Not to reform, install new programs, new bills, etc. That's big government. Yes, we need a government like the one that was set up in our constitution to establish the basis for what is acceptable and not. But we've come in this country to our government over-regulating, over-taxing, and over-intervening in areas of every day life they shouldn't be involved in. Yes, the government currently provides semi-socialist programs that certain people are dependent upon. But the average American ought to seek for total freedom and a free marketplace to go out and make things happen and provide for their families instead of being dictated how to do so. "Total freedom" is not the answer. Total freedom leads to the greedy cutting corners that lead to disasters including but not limited to causing death to innocent people. We need the FDA. We need the EPA. We need regulation that prevents people from screwing others over financially. It isn't one way or the other. Yes, you have to have oversight. But intervention shouldn't happen unless there is a true violation. No, we do not need the FDA. I've worked in the food and nutrition industry for years now, and I'll tell you that "FDA approved" carries absolutely no value because all it basically means is the company that produced that product paid a load of cash to the FDA to get it approved. We don't need the DOE on federal level. We don't need the IRS (not the form that we have today) as long as we simplify the tax codes. We need to weed out the corruption in the CIA and other federal agencies. It's a huge mess, and anyone educated on the subject would tell you the same.

It's funny how we are hearing nothing about the "university" that Bill Clinton helped run that funneled tens of millions of dollars into the Clintons' pockets. And how a bunch of secret service people who worked in the White House during the Clinton presidency are coming out telling people the media that she's a maniacal lunatic but we still hear nothing. One secret service person is releasing a book about here shortly. Anyone who hasn't already figured out this witch needs to read it.

I think when you start dismantling government programs in the name of Small Government, even the most conservative quickly learn how much they depend on the federal government for SOMETHING. They may hate that inner city crack moms are getting food stamps... The primary role of the (our) government should be to protect the freedom and rights of our people. Not to reform, install new programs, new bills, etc. That's big government. Yes, we need a government like the one that was set up in our constitution to establish the basis for what is acceptable and not. But we've come in this country to our government over-regulating, over-taxing, and over-intervening in areas of every day life they shouldn't be involved in. Yes, the government currently provides semi-socialist programs that certain people are dependent upon. But the average American ought to seek for total freedom and a free marketplace to go out and make things happen and provide for their families instead of being dictated how to do so.

the "lesser of 2 evils" is absolutely Trump Nuh uh. There is not one positive aspect of Hillarys character. Not one. On top of that, I've heard no one successfully point to any positive political achievement in her long career. To put the icing on the cake, she and Bill have made a living off of not only their political careers, but also their fraudulent foundation. To add the cherry on top, not only did she enable Bill in his affairs while in the Oval Office, she threatened and blackmailed the women to shut them up. She is an evil, lying, self-serving person who would only magnify the largest problems that our country currently has, and likely creating new ones because of her incompetence. (Drops mic)

Bottom line - the government shouldn't have near the amount of intervention in our daily lives as they currently have, and i would love to see the establishment get obliterated and bring real freedom back to our country.

That is totally fine if you feel that way. If people choose to vote for one of the main party candidates, even if people don't like Trump, the "lesser of 2 evils" is absolutely Trump. But i would argue that Gary Johnson is a much more viable candidate than he's been given credit for.

I could say literally the exact same things about Trump University, except with a higher likelihood of it being true.

Sounds like something someone being misled by a pyramid scheme would say. Stupid statement of the century right here.

That's all 1950s ideology that most of the time doesn't apply today. That's what we're taught from the time we're in diapers, so that's the information people regurgitate. Play it safe. Go to college. Get a good job with benefits. Work somewhere you don't necessarily like for 40 years, building someone else's dream, and hopefully you can retire if you're lucky and live on 40% of the income you struggled to live on in the first place. The idea that a majority of businesses fail is true, which is the benefit of finding a quality franchise, idea, or MLM to go into to begin with. And what I've observed is that most people think too small in business. Anytime i think about business moves, one of the first things i think about is how to scale it, make it bigger, and make it run without my constant presence. THAT is how to properly do business.

Funhusker, the perception that network marketers are always looking to pounce at any moment. There definitely are those types, but that's not how it's supposed to be done.

Lots of companies that post jobs that don't require a college degree to perform still prefer people with college degrees. I know people who have experienced this when applying for administrative assistant jobs. What would you say is the cost of the cheapest company one could start and make enough money to live on? IIRC you often say people should just start their own businesses but that tends to require money. Most people work up to something like that with time. People can start a business and build a livable or even luxurious income in network marketing, but many people are uneducated about that industry so are guarded against it. In traditional business, i would recommend a franchise to any beginning entrepreneur (not McDonald's or big chains like that). Smaller franchises can be started for $50-100k, which is less than most pay for college, and those can provide livable, if not very solid incomes. People paying that for college are usually getting it from loans. It's far easier to get a college loan than a loan to start a business (maybe that's the problem?). $50k-100k requires you to have had a good job or some kind of collateral (which usually requires you to have had a good job). That's exactly one of the problems. Lack of financial and entrepreneurship education in schools is the largest problem. Which is where a good network marketing company can help fill the gap, not only in income, but mostly in business knowledge and entrepreneurial mindset. Starting to think you sell either Mary Kay or Tupperware and are only a few posts away about sharing an exciting opportunity for someone that doesn't have an "employee mindset" I get that you are trying to be funny but that is exactly what I mean by people being completely misinformed about network marketing.

Props to him for not backing down. Somebody has to challenge the establishment so good for him.

Personally, i wouldn't recommend franchising a McDonald's franchise either. You're looking at probably a million at least in startup costs, which is a lot of risk, even for someone like me.

Lots of companies that post jobs that don't require a college degree to perform still prefer people with college degrees. I know people who have experienced this when applying for administrative assistant jobs. What would you say is the cost of the cheapest company one could start and make enough money to live on? IIRC you often say people should just start their own businesses but that tends to require money. Most people work up to something like that with time. People can start a business and build a livable or even luxurious income in network marketing, but many people are uneducated about that industry so are guarded against it. In traditional business, i would recommend a franchise to any beginning entrepreneur (not McDonald's or big chains like that). Smaller franchises can be started for $50-100k, which is less than most pay for college, and those can provide livable, if not very solid incomes. People paying that for college are usually getting it from loans. It's far easier to get a college loan than a loan to start a business (maybe that's the problem?). $50k-100k requires you to have had a good job or some kind of collateral (which usually requires you to have had a good job). That's exactly one of the problems. Lack of financial and entrepreneurship education in schools is the largest problem. Which is where a good network marketing company can help fill the gap, not only in income, but mostly in business knowledge and entrepreneurial mindset.

Lots of companies that post jobs that don't require a college degree to perform still prefer people with college degrees. I know people who have experienced this when applying for administrative assistant jobs. What would you say is the cost of the cheapest company one could start and make enough money to live on? IIRC you often say people should just start their own businesses but that tends to require money. Most people work up to something like that with time. People can start a business and build a livable or even luxurious income in network marketing, but many people are uneducated about that industry so are guarded against it. In traditional business, i would recommend a franchise to any beginning entrepreneur (not McDonald's or big chains like that). Smaller franchises can be started for $50-100k, which is less than most pay for college, and those can provide livable, if not very solid incomes.

FYI: Only 27% of college graduates get a job in their career field of study. AND 51% of college grads work jobs that don't require a college degree Sounds like a great idea to go to college. ZRod, your hyperbole of "if you don't have a college degree you get to work at McDonald's" is simply inaccurate, but that's the message our society pushes on us, so i guess i can't blame you. Personally, I'm a proponent that more people need to be looking into entrepreneurship instead of just finding jobs, but that isn't taught in schools unfortunately... There simply aren't enough jobs (and good jobs) for people anymore with technology and outsourcing of our factories that's been occurring.

Buster, that, like most of my posts, has nothing to do with Trump.

Really what's got to happen for the Cavs offensively IMO is: 1) They've got to swing the ball more 2) Lebron has to force the issue more and be more aggressive - which is crazy to say because he almost had a triple-double, but he needs to step up and score the ball. Not enough shot attempts for him IMO.