Mavric

LJS

OWH

they don't seem terribly different to me "Never let Tommy run" and "cater the offense to the personnel" are most decidedly not the same thing. When you open the door to "implied", you can basically make anything you want fit that, especially when you can say "that's how it was implied to me." I don't recall anyone ever saying they lied. Perhaps they did but I doubt they meant it literally. But I think it's more likely that you're implying the lying for the most part, particularly "lied through their teeth". I don't think they lied in that lying implies an intent to deceive. I think it was more a creation of the media who asked the coaches about adapting and they of course agreed that they would. The fact that it didn't happen doesn't mean they lied, simply that they didn't do it to nearly the degree that how they spoke about it implied that they would.

The fact that you keep arguing against things that literally no one has said makes this discussion pointless. Literally more than zero people have said or implied that Langsdorf and Riley lied when they said they would cater the offense to the personnel. Both parts of this sentence have changed significantly since your original argument. So you may be in the ballpark now.

The fact that you keep arguing against things that literally no one has said makes this discussion pointless.

But I thought this staff was lying through their teeth about fitting the offense around the players and never let Tommy run? That's an impressive amount of hyperbole you've got going on there. Hyperbole, sure, but I've seen dozens of times over the last 9 months where posters have criticized Langsdorf for not calling the offense to Tommy's strength. For being a pure, pro-style west coast kind of guy, getting within the ballpark of Tommy's rushing numbers from 2014 is to be commended, and is pretty definitive of a tailored offensive gameplan, I think. So you're going to focus on one cherry-picked stat that gives the appearance of being "within the ballpark" - which is actually a 27% reduction - and ignore the part where there was the 26% increase in pass attempts per game and a 33% increase in interceptions? I guess if that's how you have to try to make your point.....

But I thought this staff was lying through their teeth about fitting the offense around the players and never let Tommy run? That's an impressive amount of hyperbole you've got going on there.

I get the feeling they like the 7 guys listed above. After that, there are 2-3 more that are close but a step behind.

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Well OK then.......