Mavric

Setting aside the part where a six-win season is more of a call for changes than 9/10 win seasons.... And setting aside that "bad" recruiter may not even be descriptive enough as this may have been the single worst recruiting year at a specific position group ever... And setting aside that there are rumblings that Riley's hand may have been forced on this issue... It's nice of you to conveniently forget that Shawn Watson, Ted Gilmore and Mike Ekeler were suddenly no longer employed by the University? Watson "found" a job in Louisville before he was ever let go or however it could be spun, Ekeler left for Indiana with Co-Defensive Coordinator title, and Ted Gilmore had his contract run out and not get extended because of hush hush character issues. Very much different things, and different statements, than straight up firing someone and letting that be that. Nope.

I believe it would allow coaches to put extreme pressure on the recruit to sign papers when maybe they haven't had the ability to think things through. The kid gets pressured only to regret it later but he's stuck. And how would that be different from just having an early signing day? The coach isn't sitting at their kitchen table pressuring them to sign right then and there. But it will be "if you don't sign right now we might not have a spot for you in February" which would be the same thing, if not worse because then they would feel pressure to absolutely decide in those 3-5 days or however long the signing period is. There are going to be a few kids regretting signing either way. The degree of pressure felt would be more by some under one set of circumstances and more by others under the other set of circumstances. Why do you think 99% of players sign on NSD when they have several weeks when they could sign? Because there is pressure to sign right away as soon as the window opens up. If there is no window because you can sign whenever you want, it means coaches can't give you a deadline. They may say "someone else may take your spot" but that's exactly how it is now.

Setting aside the part where a six-win season is more of a call for changes than 9/10 win seasons.... And setting aside that "bad" recruiter may not even be descriptive enough as this may have been the single worst recruiting year at a specific position group ever... And setting aside that there are rumblings that Riley's hand may have been forced on this issue... It's nice of you to conveniently forget that Shawn Watson, Ted Gilmore and Mike Ekeler were suddenly no longer employed by the University?

I believe it would allow coaches to put extreme pressure on the recruit to sign papers when maybe they haven't had the ability to think things through. The kid gets pressured only to regret it later but he's stuck. And how would that be different from just having an early signing day?

Link I don't think this is why people get on the parents. At least not me. I would be talking more about parents who are fine, healthy, no problems, but don't let their kids follow their hearts. Hell, this lady is sick and I'm sure deep down wanted him to stay close, but she let him follow his heart anyway. This is not an instance I would be mad at parents. Now that you know that, sure. But I've rarely seen people wait to find out the entire story before they start in on the parents.

Pretty sure there isn't a way out of it. That's the whole point. Even the financial aid paperwork they've come up with now is binding on the school but not on the player.

I would love to see this stat for all schools. Is it out there somewhere? I've seen it for previous years but I haven't seen it for this year.

Still using the same bad numbers that you were using earlier for 2011.

He played mostly Safety in HS but really wanted to play CB in college and the coaches told him he'd play there. Will start out playing boundary corner.

I don't think so. Coaches would still be evlauating/recruiting younger kids but they wouldn't be committing as Sophomores (at least not as many) when they know that's it. They'd wait longer to make sure they took their visits and made sure (as much as possible) that the coaches would still be there. Coaches wouldn't be giving guys papers to sign as early as they want to make sure they develop as expected, etc. Wouldn't change a lot for the five-stars other than when they sign that would be it. But the lower-level guys would slow down a lot. And coaches would still be "recruiting" guys once they signed but they wouldn't be in the constant fear of them changing their minds and be left scrambling on NSD when a silent commit backs out - or another coach has flipped them but told them not to let the school he's decommiting from know.

Damon Benning is looking to ask VV some questions. I'm assuming it's related. Don't think he'll come back but would be interesting he hear his thoughts.

and oklahoma, tcu, w. virginia, texas tech, oklahoma state & iowa state... (so almost dead last) Uh .... according to the 247 Composite they'd be #6. So exactly in the middle.

Good timing on that. I've been trying to say that - plus our opponents simply weren't as good at running the ball.

Class of 2016 By the Numbers (OWH)

We had almost a complete lack of DL guys interested in us this year. The only official visits we got were the two guys who signed. One live a half an hour from Memorial Stadium and the other had been begging for an offer for over a year. There were hardly even any guys who seemed interested. Now, some of that may have been because the staff had decided not to recruit a DT this year. Not sure if that was Hughes' call or someone else. But it was still basically non-existent. Edit: I missed that we did have one other OV this year. A four-star DT who signed with Texas. But we apparently decided not to keep recruiting him.

Funny, I thought we were all supposed to be fine with Hughes because we were getting a former DC as a position coach.

Grad Assistant Tavita Thompson. Works with TEs currently. No idea if he knows anything about coaching DL but he seems to be a great recruiter.

BTW, why don't you like it? Just curious.

I could live with an early signing date as well. But not in December - that gains basically nothing. Sometime in August so guys can get it out of the way before their season starts. Of course, that would have to be tied to earlier OVs.