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Pelini sleeps fine at night in his Spurrier pajamas.

After reading all that, I do agree that alot of NU fans bring up their past to make you feel inferior- we are South Carolina fans. We realize our team sucks historically. Bad. We dont care about history for those obvious reasons. Bottom line is the present trumps history all day. It's like Clemson fans always bringing up the all-time record after we dominated them 3 years in a row. We are building something at S.Carolina and breaking records every game these days and I love it. I personally would take making history right now over reminiscing about great accomplishments any day. I think it's a pretty unique and cool situation that we are in as Carolina fans right now and I wouldn't trade it. GO c$%ks!!!

This thread went way off topic.

I believe neither should get suspended but they aren't very different beasts. One is a criminal misdemeanor, the other could be an NCAA violation. Yeah. Driving drunk and someone else putting your face on a flier is basically the same thing...

I've been around the block and I know Taternet well enough. I just think CT is a little hostile to outsiders at times... Yes definitely.

It's all good. @Badger, if you think CT is brutal, you should check out TigerNet. They will pretty much ban you for not being a Clemson fan. CT posters will be smart, but those people will relentlessly insult you and call you reprehensible things with no consequence lol

Mmmm no. That's why Spurrier is a hall of fame coach and you're a guy who watches DVDs of games that happened 16 years ago.

You're not hurting my feelings- just embarrassing yourself.

Spurrier is not holding a grudge. Looking back on that loss may make this W a bit more satisfying when it's all said and done, but he will approach this game business as usual.

Calling someone's alma mater crooked while oversimplifying the allegations to make it seem like USC runs SAM is full of vitriol and also ignorant. Step up your reading comprehension (if you've even read up on the topic- all you hear is "bla bla bla")... Don't bring the allegations up if you're going to plug your ears and yell "cheaters" and "crooked" like a 2 year old.

All the improvement and wins we have made the last few years have been cool and all, but what I'm really concerned about is the history of our program which no one can change- yep, that's what really matters. I just stare at history books trying to change them with my mind... The present is so overrated...

You're the team playing a lowly 5 bowl win program. That's sad. We don't even deserve to be on the field with NU, much less be favored....

None of this is news to me. The tragedy excuse is crap. Bama lost to the best team in the nation in OT. OKST lost to ISU. Bottomline. Alabama beats LSU and they're in the ... oh, wait. Oops. I mean, at least Alabama lost at LSU, right? Oh... oops. And I mean, it's not like Oklahoma State played a tougher schedule than Alabama... oh. Oops. Err... well, at least Alabama can say they had just experienced a tragedy to their athletic department a day before their loss, right? For the second time in ten years, right? And at least Alabama can say they didn't benefit from the voting shenanigans of several people, right? Oh.... oops. Yeah. Rock-solid argument for a rematch there. I'm not going to lie to you and say the SEC isn't the preeminent football conference of the last decade. But don't lie to me and tell me there aren't asterisks aplenty to go along with those titles. We both know that's not true, and that the hands of the SEC are not clean.

So I guess that makes Hilton Head the place to be? Lmao

Classy.

I don't see the relevance. OKST beats ISU they are in the NC. They lost it. Bottomline. Be mad at teams outside the SEC for not winning enough instead of making excuses.

When we stop being the best conference in the nation and winning the national championship every year, maybe ESPN will hop out of the bed. Maybe the Huskers should do something about it or shhhhh...

... and Okie St lost to a team outside of that Top 30, while Bama's one loss came to arguably one of the best teams in College Football history...

I am not saying that Brandon Wilds is the same type of player as Marcus Lattimore, BUT I think our run game has actually looked better at times with Wilds. I think alot of that has to do with Lattimore being injured within a couple of games of Shaw replacing Garcia though. When Garcia was our QB teams just had to stack the box and key on Lattimore because Garcia was just that bad in 2011. Anyways, my point is that our running game hasn't really suffered much of a dropoff in production since the loss of Lattimore.

It's a shame we will have to break tradition 01/02/12.

How do you post 6 videos on here and not include the 2001 entrance...

Oh come on now. I’m not about to wade through this rambling diatribe by that Gamecocks apologist poster named Res Judicocka on Rivals. This is his work, right? Nobody there pays any attention to him. Why should I? That's not who wrote it. I found this breakdown of what happened and I felt like it provided a legitimate question as to the validity of some of the alleged violations. But, the NCAA makes the rules and we must pay the price.

Right, because Ohio is chock full of South Carolina transplants, not the other way around. What a joke. There's a reason half of your miserable residents move down South, big guy. And how can you call Fripp Island lovely and then act like South Carolina is a terrible place? Makes 0 sense.

This is an argument against the accusations that I thought made alot of sense. I'm sure that NUisance will just read "blah blah blah" (if he even bothers to read it before running his mouth). I can't speak for Holtz or what occured during his tenure. I followed USC football back then, but not to the extent that I do now. But after reading the allegations set forth, and the subsequent responses given by our administrators, my view on 80% of this is pure hogwash. I will acknowledge that there were a few violations - that is, the four athletes that rented a two-bedroom unit but only stayed there alone. They were paying $450 per month, instead of the $900 being paid by the others that roomed together. I can see where that could be considered as a improper benefit (although, in the documentation Jamie Blevins did present an example of a non-USC related elderly woman staying there while her house was being remodeled, and only paying $450 per month as well). When these allegations first surfaced, the common belief was that the NCAA was accusing the Whitney of offering accommodations at a price that was considered below fair-market value. However, after reading the report, it was determined that while the $900 may have been equal to what other students were paying for off-campus housing, the issue was that other USC-affiliated people had stayed there previously to when the athletes did, and paid a higher rate (determined to be an average of around $57). So what? Prices go up and down all the time. Maybe the folks at the Whitney were tired of sitting at 40% occupancy while watching a significant amount of potential guests from USC using the Inn at USC instead, so they decided to lower their rate. You know, I ate at Subway last week, and paid $5.00 for a footlong BMT. Two months ago, a friend of mine ate at Subway, and paid $6.99 for the same sandwich. I guess they lowered their price. It's a good thing that we're both not athletes, or Subway could be accused of being a booster by giving me a better deal on a sandwich than what others paid prior to me. Not only that, but those that stayed prior to the athletes didn't stay for nearly the time that our players did. It's no secret that longer stays can equal lower rates. The issue here would be that the same rate would be offered to any non-USC athlete, which according to Blevins, and documentation that he presented, it was. As I've stated in other posts on this subject, I am a former hotel manager, and it was no issue at all for me to sell a room during the daytime at $119, and then sell one at 10pm at night for $49, because my job was to rent rooms, and even a room at $49 is better than sitting empty. In addition, when I worked in Myrtle Beach, a two-room oceanfront suite that sold for $229 per night in July was sold for $800 per month in December. If you do the math, that's around $26 per night, which is a 90% discount. Why? Because the hotel was full in the summer and could command such a high rate, while in December they might be at 30% occupancy, and again, $800 is better than the room sitting empty. One more example: I would have construction workers and others looking for long-term stays come in to the hotel, and we would discount them if they were willing to stay for an extended time. It wasn't uncommon to let a $119 per night room go for around $59 per night if someone was committing to staying for a few weeks, as that was guaranteed occupancy and revenue. One more thing: the allegation that the players received impermissable loans from the Whitney because they made arrangements to pay their bills when their grant money came in is also hogwash. Let's use another example: Bruce Ellington lives off-campus in a two-bedroom apartment. He is late on his water bill, and doesn't have the money to pay it. So, he calls City of Columbia and asks to pay his bill the following month, and they agree. Is that not a violation, giving someone extended time to pay their bill? Not if they do it for others besides just USC athletes, which of course they do. So now the NCAA is going to police our debt deliquency? What if an player is late on his car payment? Does he have to sit out a game? Is that where we're headed now? As for the Byrd situation, this one even further angers me. For those who don't know, Byrd's dad Adrian was the V.P. of the SAM Foundation. He took many trips as part of his job, and often times brought Damiere along with him. So, if Adrian were to host a dinner party, and brought Damiere with him, at the end of the night, he would I assume pay for his son's meal, then when he returned home, submit that receipt for reimbursement. According to the NCAA, that is a violation, because in the end, SAM is the one paying for the meal. What I don't get is how does the father/son relationship not take precedent over the booster/recruit role in this situation? Damiere never attended any SAM function without his father present, and it was always as his father's guest, not as a potential recruit. Sure, his airfare and meals were taken care of BY HIS DAD, who later got reimbursed, but that should not be considered a violation. Let me put it to you this way, hypothetically: Rush's is a USC booster. Let's say my dad worked for Rush's, and I'm a high school running back. My dad and a few other Rush's execs decide to attend a Gamecock Club meeting in Greenville, and he asks me to tag along. On the trip, I get to meet Spurrier and a few other coaches, and maybe a couple of players in attendance. My dad pays for my meal, and for the gas to drive up there. The next day, my dad turns that receipt in to his HR office, and gets a check reimbursing him for our meals and gas money. According to NCAA rules, that would be a violation, because in a round-about way, Rush's paid for my trip, not my dad, even though he works there and I am his son. Again, should not the father/son relationship outweigh anything else? Here's an even better example: let's think big in terms of USC boosters. Let's use Bank of America (I'm not sure if they're a sponsor or not, but we'll say they are for the sake of this argument). My mom works for BOA in Charlotte, and again, I'm a high school player, but not really highly recruited. She is told that she has to attend a BOA seminar in Tampa, so she says to me that while we're down there, why don't we go by and check out USF? So on our trip, we swing by the campus, take a little tour, and run in to Skip Holtz by accident and speak with him for a moment. We get home, and my mom expenses her BOA trip and is reimbursed on her next check for airline costs, meals, and a rental car. Guess what? If the NCAA doesn't recognize this as a mother/son trip, then it's now a violation, because BOA is a booster, and in effect, they paid for my trip to USF to see the campus, even though they are not recruiting me. While the actual circumstances were a little different, this is very similar to what has happened with Byrd and his dad. If Adrian was not a member of the SAM Board of directors, then I would agree 100% that it would be a violation if they paid for it, but because he works for them, and because Damiere is his son, that should take precedent over the idea of this being a recruiting trip. I don't claim to be smarter than the USC attorneys that were on this case, but it just seems to me that a lot of common sense got left out in the cold in terms of these allegations. Were there some violations? Sure there were, but not nearly the volume that were issued, and for not nearly the costs that were inferred. Compliance thought that they were on top of this, and basically goofed, but it was an honest mistake. To me, the easiest way to monitor whether students are getting too good of a deal, or paying their rent, is to require them to submit monthly receipts showing that it has been paid. This way, compliance can keep up with who is behind, and also see the amount being paid and know if it's too high, too low, or if it doesn't match the negotiated rate. If a player doesn't submit a receipt for two consecutive months, you pull him aside and find out why, and suspend him until it is resolved. Sound simple enough to me, but what do I know? Or, as I suggested a few years ago, build a new dorm for athletes and students to share 50/50. House all of the athletes there, and house an equal amount of non-athletic students as well, so that while it's not an "athletic" dorm, it still houses all athletes in one big place to keep an eye on them. Problem solved.

... This guy does know that SG is no longer on the team, right? Since what? Game 5 or so? SG can be black out drunk during this bowl game and it will have absolutely no effect on the Gamecocks football team. Please remove our team name from your username ASAP. Thank you.