Seriously?

But you're fond of the Solich era correct? he got us to a national championship. then he revamped his staff, put an entirely new team on the field and went 9-3. i was happy and would have been curious to see what he could have down. seems like he has been proving himself at ohio. He took over a Dynasty, lets review shall we....... First, versus conference opponents: 1) KSU: 29-game winning streak vs. KSU (since 1968, snapped in 1998) 2) KSU: 17-consecutive wins in Manhattan (39 years, since 1959, snapped in 1998) 3) ISU: 9-game winning streak vs. ISU (snapped in 2002) 4) OSU: 24-game winning streak and a 36-game unbeaten streak (snapped in 2002) 5) MU: 24-game winning streak and 30 years since losing in Columbia (snapped in 2003) 6) CU: 9-game winning streak vs. CU (snapped in 2001) 7) OU: 7-game winning streak vs. OU (snapped in 2000) 8) A&M: 5-game winning streak vs. Texas A&M (snapped in 1998) 9) KSU: 17-consecutive wins in Lincoln (35 years, since 1968, snapped in 2003) General streaks and records: 1) Consecutive 9-win seasons: 33 (from 1969, NCAA record, snapped in 2002) 2) Consecutive seasons losing 3 games or less: 29 (since 1968, snapped in 1998) 3) Consecutive "New Years Day" Bowls: 18 (since 1980 Sun Bowl, snapped in 1998) 4) Consecutive wins versus current SEC-conference schools: 11 (since 1978 vs. Alabama, snapped in 2002 to Ole Miss) 5) Consecutive home winning streak: 47 games (Oct. 19, 1991-Oct. 24, 1998, ended by unranked Texas in 1998, fifth-longest in NCAA history) 6) Consecutive regular season conference victories: 40 games (Nov. 27, 1992-Oct. 3, 1998, ended by Texas A&M in 1998) 7) Consecutive winning seasons: 40 (from 1962, snapped in 2002) 8) Consecutive weeks ranked in the AP poll: 348 weeks (from 1981, NCAA record, snapped in 2002 vs. ISU) 9) Consecutive seasons ranked in the preseason AP poll: 33 (since 1969, snapped in 2003) 10) Years without consecutive regular season losses: 26 (since 1976, snapped in 2002 vs. ISU) 11) Consecutive wins in conference openers: 28 years (since 1974, snapped in 2002 vs. ISU) 12) Last time team lost 3 or more games, back-to-back seasons: 1960-1961 (42 years, snapped in 2003) 13) Last time Nebraska lost to a team in a bowl game that DIDN'T finish the season in the Top-5: 1954 (48 years, snapped in 2002 vs. Ole Miss - finished season unranked) 14) Worst home loss: 31 pts, 9-38 vs. KSU in 2003 (since 1958 vs. Missouri (0-31), 45 years) 15) Most losses in a season: 7 (2002, since 1958, 3-7 record) 16) Consecutive bowl wins versus current SEC schools: 11 (since 1967 Sugar Bowl vs. Alabama, ended in 2002 to Ole Miss in Independence Bowl) 17) Consecutive seasons without losing back-to-back games in regular season: 25 (since 1976 vs. ISU, OU - snapped in 2002 vs. Penn St, ISU) 18) Consecutive seasons without losing three games in a row: 41 (since 1961 vs. Syracuse, Okie St, MU, KU - snapped in 2002 vs. KSU, CU and Ole Miss) Offensive notables: 1) Team Rushing Average: 253.8 ypg in 1998 (lowest average in 22 years - since 1976) 2) First Downs Per Game: 18.6 in 1999 (lowest average in 31 years, since 1968) 3) Team Total Yards Per Game: 373.1 in 2002 (lowest average in 34 years, since 1969) 4) Team Scoring Average: 27.4 ppg in 2002 (lowest average in 25 years, since 1977) 5) Team Fumbles in Season (most): 49 in 1999 (all-time record, since stats started being kept in 1948) 6) Fewest First Downs in a Game: 8 vs. USM in 1999 (lowest since 1958) 7) TIED: Fewest First Downs in a Game: 8 vs. UT in 2003 (lowest since 1958), also only managed 10 vs. ISU in 2002. 8) Fewest Rushing Yards, Game: 53 yds on 40 carries vs. UT in 2003 (lowest since 1979) 9) Lowest Total Yards, Game: 175 yds vs. UT in 2003 (lowest since 1992 Orange Bowl vs. Miami, a span of 148 games) Defensive notables: 1) Scoring Defense Per Game (worst): 23.9 ppg in 2002 (worst average since 1951, or 51 years) 2) Team Rush Defense Per Game (worst): 146.6 ypg in 2002 (worst average since 1983, or 19 years) 3) Most Points Allowed in Game (worst): 62 points, by CU in 2001 - ALL-TIME NU RECORD) 4) Most First Downs by Pass, game (worst): 22, by Louisiana Tech in 1998 - ALL-TIME NU RECORD) 5) Most Passing Yards, Attempts, Completion in Game: 590 yds, 68, 46 by Louisiana Tech in 1998 - ALL-TIME NU RECORD) 6) Most Receiving Yards, Player vs. NU: 405 yds, 21 rec by Troy Edwards, LTU, 1998 (NCAA Record) Miscellaneous: 1) In 2003, departing 4-year seniors Terrell Butler and TJ Hollowell become the first Huskers since 1968 to graduate having never won at least one conference championship. boy, good thing callahan came around to help us learn how bad it could really be. There wasn't much left by the time Solich was through, unless you call Joe Dailey something. Say what you will about Callahan but he left the cupboards stuffed full of talent and made Bo appear legit, now that the players are gone, we see the result.

But you're fond of the Solich era correct? he got us to a national championship. then he revamped his staff, put an entirely new team on the field and went 9-3. i was happy and would have been curious to see what he could have down. seems like he has been proving himself at ohio. He took over a Dynasty, lets review shall we....... First, versus conference opponents: 1) KSU: 29-game winning streak vs. KSU (since 1968, snapped in 1998) 2) KSU: 17-consecutive wins in Manhattan (39 years, since 1959, snapped in 1998) 3) ISU: 9-game winning streak vs. ISU (snapped in 2002) 4) OSU: 24-game winning streak and a 36-game unbeaten streak (snapped in 2002) 5) MU: 24-game winning streak and 30 years since losing in Columbia (snapped in 2003) 6) CU: 9-game winning streak vs. CU (snapped in 2001) 7) OU: 7-game winning streak vs. OU (snapped in 2000) 8) A&M: 5-game winning streak vs. Texas A&M (snapped in 1998) 9) KSU: 17-consecutive wins in Lincoln (35 years, since 1968, snapped in 2003) General streaks and records: 1) Consecutive 9-win seasons: 33 (from 1969, NCAA record, snapped in 2002) 2) Consecutive seasons losing 3 games or less: 29 (since 1968, snapped in 1998) 3) Consecutive "New Years Day" Bowls: 18 (since 1980 Sun Bowl, snapped in 1998) 4) Consecutive wins versus current SEC-conference schools: 11 (since 1978 vs. Alabama, snapped in 2002 to Ole Miss) 5) Consecutive home winning streak: 47 games (Oct. 19, 1991-Oct. 24, 1998, ended by unranked Texas in 1998, fifth-longest in NCAA history) 6) Consecutive regular season conference victories: 40 games (Nov. 27, 1992-Oct. 3, 1998, ended by Texas A&M in 1998) 7) Consecutive winning seasons: 40 (from 1962, snapped in 2002) 8) Consecutive weeks ranked in the AP poll: 348 weeks (from 1981, NCAA record, snapped in 2002 vs. ISU) 9) Consecutive seasons ranked in the preseason AP poll: 33 (since 1969, snapped in 2003) 10) Years without consecutive regular season losses: 26 (since 1976, snapped in 2002 vs. ISU) 11) Consecutive wins in conference openers: 28 years (since 1974, snapped in 2002 vs. ISU) 12) Last time team lost 3 or more games, back-to-back seasons: 1960-1961 (42 years, snapped in 2003) 13) Last time Nebraska lost to a team in a bowl game that DIDN'T finish the season in the Top-5: 1954 (48 years, snapped in 2002 vs. Ole Miss - finished season unranked) 14) Worst home loss: 31 pts, 9-38 vs. KSU in 2003 (since 1958 vs. Missouri (0-31), 45 years) 15) Most losses in a season: 7 (2002, since 1958, 3-7 record) 16) Consecutive bowl wins versus current SEC schools: 11 (since 1967 Sugar Bowl vs. Alabama, ended in 2002 to Ole Miss in Independence Bowl) 17) Consecutive seasons without losing back-to-back games in regular season: 25 (since 1976 vs. ISU, OU - snapped in 2002 vs. Penn St, ISU) 18) Consecutive seasons without losing three games in a row: 41 (since 1961 vs. Syracuse, Okie St, MU, KU - snapped in 2002 vs. KSU, CU and Ole Miss) Offensive notables: 1) Team Rushing Average: 253.8 ypg in 1998 (lowest average in 22 years - since 1976) 2) First Downs Per Game: 18.6 in 1999 (lowest average in 31 years, since 1968) 3) Team Total Yards Per Game: 373.1 in 2002 (lowest average in 34 years, since 1969) 4) Team Scoring Average: 27.4 ppg in 2002 (lowest average in 25 years, since 1977) 5) Team Fumbles in Season (most): 49 in 1999 (all-time record, since stats started being kept in 1948) 6) Fewest First Downs in a Game: 8 vs. USM in 1999 (lowest since 1958) 7) TIED: Fewest First Downs in a Game: 8 vs. UT in 2003 (lowest since 1958), also only managed 10 vs. ISU in 2002. 8) Fewest Rushing Yards, Game: 53 yds on 40 carries vs. UT in 2003 (lowest since 1979) 9) Lowest Total Yards, Game: 175 yds vs. UT in 2003 (lowest since 1992 Orange Bowl vs. Miami, a span of 148 games) Defensive notables: 1) Scoring Defense Per Game (worst): 23.9 ppg in 2002 (worst average since 1951, or 51 years) 2) Team Rush Defense Per Game (worst): 146.6 ypg in 2002 (worst average since 1983, or 19 years) 3) Most Points Allowed in Game (worst): 62 points, by CU in 2001 - ALL-TIME NU RECORD) 4) Most First Downs by Pass, game (worst): 22, by Louisiana Tech in 1998 - ALL-TIME NU RECORD) 5) Most Passing Yards, Attempts, Completion in Game: 590 yds, 68, 46 by Louisiana Tech in 1998 - ALL-TIME NU RECORD) 6) Most Receiving Yards, Player vs. NU: 405 yds, 21 rec by Troy Edwards, LTU, 1998 (NCAA Record) Miscellaneous: 1) In 2003, departing 4-year seniors Terrell Butler and TJ Hollowell become the first Huskers since 1968 to graduate having never won at least one conference championship.

But you're fond of the Solich era correct?

100% agree, this thread should have started the day the last Callahan recruit was gone and we saw how bad Pelini really was. A year ago at the latest.

Without question, recruiting is where Bo has failed.... His schemes suck too if he doesn't have NFL caliber linemen like he did at LSU and Suh

This right here is what completed the destruction of Nebraska Football, I don't even know where to start with this horsedookie. How was it he tried to change the " Culture" again? Was it where he did or didn't recruit felons like Osborne/McBride did to finally get it done? Was it where he actually played against a real schedule? Was it because his offenses were exciting to watch for the first time in 5 years? Was it because he was handed bare cupboards, but handed the next regime actual football players? Was it because he treated the fans/media with respect that was NEVER shown to him? I could go on for days about the way Cosgroves children were treated and all the other things YOU type of fans did that make me sick to admit I'm a 50 year Husker fan. Please oh please tell me how he destroyed the "walk-on" program, shunned ex Nebraska players, and all the other made up BS, Osbornes golf outing? Callahans flaw.....Cosgrove If Bo Pelini represents our culture then our culture is garbage, he treats the fans like crap. the media like crap, the players like crap, I don't care if he treats his staff like crap, he picked the un-qualified garbage. He's only a decent DC when other talented recruiters build his defenses. He knows nothing of recruiting or talent. His game management is deplorable. I really can not come up with one admirable trait Pelini has that makes me say I want him at Nebraska While I respect your right to state your opinion you are SO wrong. I'm still recovering from what Callahan & Co. did to Nebraska football. He came in here and with his 'all star' team destroyed every record we held except for our sold out record. While he may have been a good NFL coach he was NOT a good college coach and that's ok-it happens to the best of them. Saban was a lousy NFL coach but is a great college coach. Nebraska football is more than just a game, it is part of our community. For someone who has been involved with the team for 50 years you of all people should realize that. I am appalled that you think so little of Bo. When Frank was fired after a 10-2 record no less, after he fired some of is best friends/colleagues and was STILL fired, fans were chanting in the stands for Bo. But no, we had to have some hot shot, big name, NFL coach for the Huskers. Oh everyone was singing his praises until he started to lose and boy did he lose. He could not develop the talent he had. His inflexibility of not getting rid of Cosgrove was telling of his entire attitude. When Bo came here this was a community shattered. Nebraska football was in the toilet A proud tradition that had been trampled-Bo gave us hope for our team. He has slowly built up the program once more. Does he have more work to do? Absolutely! But for someone to dismiss him as you do is really hard to stomach. I'm sorry but you're so wrong. What "records" did Callahan "destroy?" I only know of two, the winning streak to Kansas and the bowl game streak. And with the lack of tallent that he was left in 2004, no coach would have made a bowl game with only Joe Dailey as a scholarship QB. Every other streak was broken by Frank, that is what I will never get. Consider this. Frank maintained Osborne's legacy recruits for 4 season before falling off the cliff due to lazy recruiting. We were nationally relevant, the last time we were. Frank faltered, the program slipped and he overhauled his staff. That overhaul produced a slight resurgence due to a very weak schedule and a fluky defense. An educated fan knows it wasn't much more than window dressing, but the problem is that nobody wants to admit that Frank killed this program, not Callahan. The program was already dead before he got here. People who hated Callahan look at the 2007 team as the worse ever. I look at that season and wonder how would this team do playing in 2007? My guess is about 6-6. Slightly better but not much. It is funny but the UCLA game reminded me a lot of many of the 2007 games where we asked Ganz to win the game with his arm because the defense couldn't stop the other team and ultimately, he would throw picks and we would lose to teams we should be beating. I wonder how the fans wouldbe reacting if Callahan had lost this same game against UCLA. The roof would be falling in I guarantee it. Frank was 9-3...in 2003 and only played two ranked teams, who took us behind the woodshead. (KSU, UT) I am making my point in the context of evaluating the coach and the job he is doing, not from the perspective of a fan. If the 2007 schedule was more typical, that team could have easily gone 7-7, which is the exact same record Fank Solich had in 2002. Everybody always points to 2007 and states emphatically that we are sooooo much better than 2007. In some ways we are, but I don't think it is as drastic as some make it to be. At least BC was stocking the cupboard. his recruiting was really picking up and his class for 2008 was set to be his best until he was fired. I firmly believe BC would have fired Cozgrove after 2007, and who know who he would have hired as DC to coach all that talent BC had recruited (Suh, Haag, Prince, etc). I am NOT trying to defend BC or say he should have been retained, I just think there has to be some context. At this point, I am not firmly convinced that we are significantly better off in year 5 of Bo than we were after 4 years of BC, and that is saying something. I always view the status of the program based on how it competes nationally. I don't really care about how it does in the "legends" division, or even the B1G. National relevance is what matters to me, and I think what should matter to Nebraska fans. In the end, what does it mean if we beat 9 "average" or "terrible" teams? To me, it simply means we are slightly better than average, which is the very definition of mediocrity. Exactly, Pelini teams would be destroyed playing a Callahan schedule, the last 2 years teams may have not even scored. Burkhead would be dead and this defense would have surrendered 1000 yards in several of those game without a doubt

There's nothing mystical about it, childish, insecure and completely lacking in rationale seems more appropriate. Kids will be kids and say/do things kids do. Why does our coach act like a playground bully and take away social media in the age of social media? I'm pretty sure I know why Because nothing good can come from social media? At least when you're a college football player? I'm pretty sure good things come from being a player from Bama on social media but when your coach is consistently setting you up for failure time and time again........... Now that you say that I do remember how other kids treated the Cosgroves kids so maybe it is a good thing Pelini puts the hammer down, considering Nebraska fans parental skills

There's nothing mystical about it, childish, insecure and completely lacking in rationale seems more appropriate. Kids will be kids and say/do things kids do. Why does our coach act like a playground bully and take away social media in the age of social media? I'm pretty sure I know why

Can you show an example of when Callahan didn't Nope. That wasn't my point. My point was that there are many coaches today that have a 'win at all cost' mentality (should've been more clear-sorry ) I hate that attitude in college football. I'm sure Bill did what he could for his players but how would you feel as a parent if a recruiter came into your living room and promised that playing for him would be 'the pipeline to the NFL' Wasn't that why Bill got so many 4 and 5 star recruits? Well, that didn't happen did it. I'm sure Bill was a good person he just wasn't a good college football coach. I think often that is just because we're a fan looking from the outside in at other programs we know nothing about. There are two sides to every story. I'd guess you'd put Lane Kiffin in the "win at all costs" group - yet if you talked to his players I'd bet they'd say something very different. Same goes for Urban, or Saban, etc. Just because they are winning, doesn't mean they win at all costs. Sure, they have a disproportionate number of prima-donna show-boats on their teams (because they can recruit), that are more interested with the NFL than college...but that's because those players can be --> they're good. They're winning. And there are still 100 other guys on the team that Kiffin, Saban and Urban are propping up for a career outside of football. Nebraska's currently just seen as this place where life after football is stressed above all else...because dang near every one of our players will need a life after their time playing football here. We aren't sending 10 to the draft. We'll send 2-3. And we aren't winning...so there is absolutely no way you could say we are a win at all costs team. We were during the 90's though. And we were winning. I'm sorry you thought that I was talking about Nebraska. I don't think we are a 'win at all cost' team. However, I do think Billy C made promises to get the players he wanted because he wanted to win-because we (Nebraska Nation) wanted to win. But it didn't work. I DO think that Kiffin is that type of coach. I really hated the way he treated Tennesee. I also have similar suspicions about Urban Meyer. Why didn't he stay at Florida? Because they weren't winning anymore and he wanted to coach a team that wins-all the time. Saban cuts players that won't perform for him after promising them scholarships. That's terrible! So my point, and I'm sorry I wasn't clear-is that there is more involved in the game than winning. Taking care of the players is most important and I think Bo does that. Did Bill do that? I'm sure he did but there was just something that was not there with him coaching at Nebraska. Pelini does worse than any coach, he dog houses the most talented players for his Youngstown players and the talented players never, ever see the field again. Why are Barneys kids playing for the Huskers, one of them has lost several games for us with his bone headed penalties again and again and again and agai..............

Can you show an example of when Callahan didn't Nope. That wasn't my point. My point was that there are many coaches today that have a 'win at all cost' mentality (should've been more clear-sorry ) I hate that attitude in college football. I'm sure Bill did what he could for his players but how would you feel as a parent if a recruiter came into your living room and promised that playing for him would be 'the pipeline to the NFL' Wasn't that why Bill got so many 4 and 5 star recruits? Well, that didn't happen did it. I'm sure Bill was a good person he just wasn't a good college football coach. I think often that is just because we're a fan looking from the outside in at other programs we know nothing about. There are two sides to every story. I'd guess you'd put Lane Kiffin in the "win at all costs" group - yet if you talked to his players I'd bet they'd say something very different. Same goes for Urban, or Saban, etc. Just because they are winning, doesn't mean they win at all costs. Sure, they have a disproportionate number of prima-donna show-boats on their teams (because they can recruit), that are more interested with the NFL than college...but that's because those players can be --> they're good. They're winning. And there are still 100 other guys on the team that Kiffin, Saban and Urban are propping up for a career outside of football. Nebraska's currently just seen as this place where life after football is stressed above all else...because dang near every one of our players will need a life after their time playing football here. We aren't sending 10 to the draft. We'll send 2-3. And we aren't winning...so there is absolutely no way you could say we are a win at all costs team. We were during the 90's though. And we were winning. Good post, nail meet hammer

I can't believe that people are even drawing a comparison to Cally and Pelini. Ok.. we had a bad loss where we couldn't stop my grandma. But to say the two programs are similar is laughable. For one we had BC who some how put together one good season, had one at best average season and two years where suicide rates were through the roof in Nebraska because we stunk so bad. There really wasn't anything about winning or running a program or the ability to fix a problem shown from top to bottom. Bo on the other hand has shown us to be a winning coach and someone who has been able to adapt in season to fix things. Sure they may not be to where he wants to them to be. Or they may not be fixed to a level that the fans feel easy about it but he's shown he can do things that help us win and he's done that on a regular basis which isn't easy. He also get's pissed when we lose. Cally would smile and not seem to care saying it was one game. When has he showed he can win or adjust? Last year Northwestern at home ( almost as Bad as the Texas fiasco)? Michigan, Gamecocks Bowl game, UCLA game, PSU during the most horrible time in their history? Texas A & M........... I mean the list goes on and on and on and Yeah Bill never got mad , throat slash and Fking hillbillies, it's amazing how soon we forget even right after getting schooled by a losing program full of freshman and a first year coach

Can you show an example of when Callahan didn't Nope. That wasn't my point. My point was that there are many coaches today that have a 'win at all cost' mentality (should've been more clear-sorry ) I hate that attitude in college football. I'm sure Bill did what he could for his players but how would you feel as a parent if a recruiter came into your living room and promised that playing for him would be 'the pipeline to the NFL' Wasn't that why Bill got so many 4 and 5 star recruits? Well, that didn't happen did it. I'm sure Bill was a good person he just wasn't a good college football coach. Can you give me an example of a coach with a win at all cost attitude? You mean like this one? http://sportsillustr...k/phillips.html Or like some other one that fits more into our supposed "culture"?

I was excited when Pelini was hired, who wasn't? The second he stuck his nose in Watsons business along with grand wizard Osborne, it was the beginning of the end. Watson and Callahans recruiting ( Suh and the others) is what made Bo reputable year one, the other is the ridiculously easy schedule Pelini has had since he's been here INCLUDING last year supposed smokescreen that's being exposed with every passing game. When non bowl/un ranked Texas beat us in Memorial, it was apparent Pelini was out of his league. You keep hoping, I've seen enough undisciplined preparation of our slow and sluggish team to know we will remain unranked from this point on if Pelini is retained. We will always have some lame excuse as to why we get throttled 4-7 times a year with weak schedules (7 starting this year even in a weak and terrible conference) Oh, and Pelini is on no lists, some sportswriter places him on a list but after this year, his name will never be mentioned again, actually last weekend pretty much showed what Pelini is capable with HIS recruits and staff

Can you show an example of when Callahan didn't

This right here is what completed the destruction of Nebraska Football, I don't even know where to start with this horsedookie. How was it he tried to change the " Culture" again? Was it where he did or didn't recruit felons like Osborne/McBride did to finally get it done? Was it where he actually played against a real schedule? Was it because his offenses were exciting to watch for the first time in 5 years? Was it because he was handed bare cupboards, but handed the next regime actual football players? Was it because he treated the fans/media with respect that was NEVER shown to him? I could go on for days about the way Cosgroves children were treated and all the other things YOU type of fans did that make me sick to admit I'm a 50 year Husker fan. Please oh please tell me how he destroyed the "walk-on" program, shunned ex Nebraska players, and all the other made up BS, Osbornes golf outing? Callahans flaw.....Cosgrove If Bo Pelini represents our culture then our culture is garbage, he treats the fans like crap. the media like crap, the players like crap, I don't care if he treats his staff like crap, he picked the un-qualified garbage. He's only a decent DC when other talented recruiters build his defenses. He knows nothing of recruiting or talent. His game management is deplorable. I really can not come up with one admirable trait Pelini has that makes me say I want him at Nebraska While I respect your right to state your opinion you are SO wrong. I'm still recovering from what Callahan & Co. did to Nebraska football. He came in here and with his 'all star' team destroyed every record we held except for our sold out record. While he may have been a good NFL coach he was NOT a good college coach and that's ok-it happens to the best of them. Saban was a lousy NFL coach but is a great college coach. Nebraska football is more than just a game, it is part of our community. For someone who has been involved with the team for 50 years you of all people should realize that. I am appalled that you think so little of Bo. When Frank was fired after a 10-2 record no less, after he fired some of is best friends/colleagues and was STILL fired, fans were chanting in the stands for Bo. But no, we had to have some hot shot, big name, NFL coach for the Huskers. Oh everyone was singing his praises until he started to lose and boy did he lose. He could not develop the talent he had. His inflexibility of not getting rid of Cosgrove was telling of his entire attitude. When Bo came here this was a community shattered. Nebraska football was in the toilet A proud tradition that had been trampled-Bo gave us hope for our team. He has slowly built up the program once more. Does he have more work to do? Absolutely! But for someone to dismiss him as you do is really hard to stomach. I'm sorry but you're so wrong. I will respond because you actually offer up substance, substance leaning towards your opinion but never the less. You say Bill destroyed every record but the "Sell out", not so fast.....Frank had already destroyed 42 of them and handed Callahan Joe Dailey. Don't get me wrong, Callahan needed to go because he retained Cosgrove, the same as Bo needs to go for retaining Cotton ( I doubt Bo has a choice) let me add one of your quotes here for prosperity Yes the fan base was shattered but it was shattered before Callahan stepped off the plane.......Poor inept Frank had already tanked the Ferrari which was Nebraska, people like to point to his last years joke of a schedule where we played a couple decent teams and got ROLLED. Please show me a Callahan year where we weren't playing BCS game opponent in conference. Bill got throttled by Leach, Frank got throttled by Shawn Watson. Bill was years removed fro a dynasty, Frank was handed the world. Bill played tough schedules, like I said, when Kansas and Mizzou are BCS contenders and Bill is still rebuilding with a terrible DC what do you think should happen? You're appalled by my opinion of Bo? Time and time again he has proven just how much he doesn't belong anywhere near a Head coaching job, he and Bill should be facing each other in the NFL as coordinators. Just his "players in the doghouse " mentality alone is enough to say goodbye, the rest of the demeanor, terrible game planning, horrid preparation, recruiting......etc. etc. etc. is just icing on the cake. We are all supposed to love Bo because YOU wanted him after some MSU game where he beat a slow B1G team in a bowl, then Osborne hired the guy. I don't bow to Lord Osborne for anything, I think he's more at fault than Bo who's clearly out of his element of cursing at old men that destroy them on National TV. If Osborne and Perlman would unleash the chains off Pelini and let him be the arrogant, slobbering fool he really is, he may stand a chance.

I should have specified in my quote what part I was laughing at, which was the last paragraph. He's going along and then he says that... Prove me wrong ..... http://www.omaha.com/article/20120908/BIGRED/709089778/1716#chatelain-bo-has-lost-his-defensive-touch

This would be my reply to a defensive guru coach that just got schooled by a first year coach with half his offense being freshman. But I don't find that type of "culture" very funny.

When N' Suh was here

Hahaha. If you honestly believe what you said right there.... I must respectively say you might be kinda stupid... respectfully of course. Please let me know what Baton Rouge and Tuscaloosa have that Lincoln doesn't. Please tell me. Don't fool yourself. Saban wasn't Saban at Michigan State because he was at Michigan State in the midwest. LSU was always loaded with in-state talent that wants to stay home and play...making them a power was easy. Same with Bama...tradition, Southern talent...cupcake. Turning around Nebraska would be far more difficult for Saban. The college football landscape has changed. All the Southern kids - where the talent comes from - are staying home. It's the SEC - place to be. They aren't going North to NU, Notre Dame, Michigan. Look...the Top States that produce the MOST NFL TALENT PER CAPITA! 1. Louisiana 2. Mississippi 3. South Carolina 4. Alabama 5. Florida The Top States overall in producing NFL talent: 1. California 2. Florida 3. Texas The South is highly concentrated with NFL studs. The Coasts and Texas have the rest of the talent with their population size. Husker football is in Lincoln in the middle of nowhere with talent that can't compete with the South. It's simple - there's only so much elite talent to go around. For Nebraska to be powerful again, some Southern powers are going to have to go in the tank again. So what's changed from 1960 to present, Nebraska had little to no troubles beating Bamma, Texas, LSU, UCLA..........pretty much every hot bed of recruiting under Devaney, even Tom handled everyone except Miami and FSU so what is it you're trying to say again?

Watson did fine with his offense when he was allowed to run his offense and used the players he wanted, Watsons failure was being retained for the smokescreen and having the shackle that is Barney Cotton and his entire lineage forced into his offense, I wonder sometimes if some even pay attention at all. UCLA is not that good, they are in fact a gimme, throw Bama up against them and see how good they are. I'm pretty sure USC and Oregon could show just how talented they are. You know the type, real staffs with solid recruiting

This right here is what completed the destruction of Nebraska Football, I don't even know where to start with this horsedookie. How was it he tried to change the " Culture" again? Was it where he did or didn't recruit felons like Osborne/McBride did to finally get it done? Was it where he actually played against a real schedule? Was it because his offenses were exciting to watch for the first time in 5 years? Was it because he was handed bare cupboards, but handed the next regime actual football players? Was it because he treated the fans/media with respect that was NEVER shown to him? I could go on for days about the way Cosgroves children were treated and all the other things YOU type of fans did that make me sick to admit I'm a 50 year Husker fan. Please oh please tell me how he destroyed the "walk-on" program, shunned ex Nebraska players, and all the other made up BS, Osbornes golf outing? Callahans flaw.....Cosgrove If Bo Pelini represents our culture then our culture is garbage, he treats the fans like crap. the media like crap, the players like crap, I don't care if he treats his staff like crap, he picked the un-qualified garbage. He's only a decent DC when other talented recruiters build his defenses. He knows nothing of recruiting or talent. His game management is deplorable. I really can not come up with one admirable trait Pelini has that makes me say I want him at Nebraska

Which season are you talking about where the defense showed improvement through the year? It certainly wasn't last year, maybe a year that involved N'Suh?

It appears he actually pays attention, maybe we should hire this guy on the staff as a consultant

He doesn't worry about his Legacy as AD one bit, the Legacy he protects with his bonehead decisions was formed 15 years ago, when he handed the keys of the Ferrari over to his buddy. If, and thats a big if, TO would have stepped aside after his Frank Solich tribute tour hiring of Pelini, I might have a sliver of respect for him but the way he's milked every ounce from a ONCE proud program just leaves a bad taste. Getting waxed in Shreveport and backstabbing Husker coaching legends like Tenopir, Darlington and the rest to save your own arse doesn't translate to moderately successful to me. Had Callahan kept Pelini on and kept him far away from recruiting, I personally see a top 10 team annually.

You touch upon something here that others might cringe at --- but I think is perhaps a real issue. Maybe I am extrapolating from your perspective too much, and if you get flamed along with me... sorry... You stated something about covering up for an inept staff... I surmise that a reasonable subset of the players are, at this point, aware that the NU coaching staff is inept and in over their heads --- and that a reasonable subset of those players have lost confidence in their coaches abilities. If this is so, it is understandable. I have no knowledge in a direct sense that this is happening... but in an indirect sense we do have this... The team is under-prepared week in and week out. They do not play aggressively and are out hustled most weeks. They play flat, look confused on the field, cannot line up correctly in a timely fashion and they are constantly frantic as the snap approaches on defense trying to determine what they are to do... All of this is consistent with coaching problems. It is rather embarrassing for our staff not to have been able to correct TMarts mechanics and an outside coach did. And most on the team read the posts here and elsewhere on other sites and there are now many, many, many posters that are calling out our coaches for their lack of performance. This is not unnoticed, I am sure, by the players. I have seen this at the HS level several times... where the players lose confidence in their coaches and they play, well... very much how we see NU playing. We have a problem and, I am afraid a problem that will not go away until this staff goes away. I doubt you need to surmise anything, it's all pretty much cut and clear you hit the nail right on the head. Would you have confidence in this staff of boneheads? The recruiting is going to get even worse if that's possible the longer this circus is allowed to continue