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Facts are easily obtained, but questions of Riley's fit as HC at Nebraska are hypothetical no matter how you slice it. And while previous W/L records are simple and straight-forward, they don't appear to be a good predictor. Hoke had a good record before going to Michigan. RichRod looked good before going to Ann Arbor. And looked bad before getting to Tucson but is doing very well for the Wildcats. Pete Carroll wasn't good for the Patriots but has been exceptional at USC and Seattle. I thought Saban would have done a lot better in the NFL. There are also lots of W/L records that translated into success as well. Urban at Florida and again at tOSU is probably the best example. My point is that Riley's W/L record at Oregon St. doesn't mean much to how he'll perform at NU. You can keep presenting it as a fact, but it's not convincing evidence in the discussion of how Riley will perform at NU. The NFL is a totally different animal= if you want to add the NFL then you have to look at Rileys failure at SD then as well College football is a much different equation Rich Rod was sabotaged at Michigan- he would have been successful there had they left him alone Great book there about it, 3 and out. Friends at Michigan verified, very accurate Lots of great coaches won at every college stop Bear Bryant Urban Meyer Nick Saban Lou Holtz Riley- jury is out Rich Rod is a College great coach and will have a great career Past results DO matter Consistent Results either verify what you are doing makes sense, or they dont The best are going to win at every stop, no excuses So Nick Saban won at every stop? You must have forgot his stops at MSU and the Dolphins. And don't use that bullsh#t of " Well he went 9-2 his final year at MSU" When Saban took over MSU they were 0-11 They had winning record in his year 1 there He was 34-24 there- never had a losing season. Last season 10-2 So yes he did win at MSU and as soon as he left they went back to losing again Pretty good coach For the 10th time NFL has no bearing on the college game- doesn't matter. If it does then Rileys big failure at SD counts too. I don't think it does

Whoa. You just listed some of the Greatest Coaches of all time. This is hardly the "norm". These guys are legends or will be legends by the time their career is over. I don't think anybody has even remotely said Mike Riley is Bear Bryant, Urban Meyer, Nick Saban or the other dummy you listed. Well....kinda. The jury is out on his time here at Nebraska. The jury isn't out on his previous career though. Don't forget, he did have some very successful years at Oregon St. too. He also won quite a number of games that realistically, they shouldn't have won. He overcame quite a bit there. He was hired as a HC in the NFL, and in the CFL. His reputation amongst coaches is impecable. For all the talk you do about the in's and out's of this game, you'd think you would show a bit more respect for the guy. There's a lot of people a hell of a lot smarter than you or I who thinks Mike Riley is an excellent person, coach, evaluator and developer. Past results do not matter now. In no way will Riley's record at Oregon St. affect the record at Nebraska. If you wanted to apply his record there to his record here, then don't forget to include those good seasons and the upsets over some highly ranked teams too. You guys aren't just gonna sit here and apply all the bad and none of the good. That's being unfair and ignorant. Like I said though, none of it really applies at all. NU deserves a top 10-15 coach, Riley isn't a top 10-15 coach Its great that he is a nice guy everyone likes, at the end of the day what matters is wins I remember a guy I used to coach against. Great guy, very likeable. He had a few seasons where they won, but mostly they lost or were middle of the road. NO ONE in the conference wanted the guy to retire- because we could usually beat him. We talked him up to anyone that would listen He hasn't consistently won. He had a pretty poor record his last 4-5 years at OSU and I guess since you think NFL experience matters- failed there as well. To say OSU is impossible to win at- ignores the fact that Dennis Erickson slipped right in and won consistently and won big there right in the middle of the Mike Riley era and I wouldn't consider DE to be an elite coach. DE did much better at OSU than Riley did. Past experience is usually a good predictor of future results When one hires a coach or an employee for that matter- we look at past results Why? Because they are usually a pretty good predictor of future results As a Business owner who has hired over 300 people, I only hired those with a track record that put them in the top 85-90% in their fields. We had the reputation that allowed us not to have to take "flyers" on unproven or up and down performers. Lowering risk of the hiring failure is why people hire consistent top performers. Yes, kudos to Riley for pulling some upsets But his teams were all over the place W/L wise and lost to teams like Sacramento State and Eastern Washington as well, Reminding me of some of those really talented Missouri teams of the 70s- 80s who would be world beaters one week and lose to a really bad team the next week. Can Riley be consistently successful here? CONSISTENT success is how success is measured here, not great one week and awful the next. The great ones show consistent progress and at the end of the day- consistently win once they get everything they want in place Maybe he can be that guy He hasn't shown he can at his other College Football coaching gigs

Facts are easily obtained, but questions of Riley's fit as HC at Nebraska are hypothetical no matter how you slice it. And while previous W/L records are simple and straight-forward, they don't appear to be a good predictor. Hoke had a good record before going to Michigan. RichRod looked good before going to Ann Arbor. And looked bad before getting to Tucson but is doing very well for the Wildcats. Pete Carroll wasn't good for the Patriots but has been exceptional at USC and Seattle. I thought Saban would have done a lot better in the NFL. There are also lots of W/L records that translated into success as well. Urban at Florida and again at tOSU is probably the best example. My point is that Riley's W/L record at Oregon St. doesn't mean much to how he'll perform at NU. You can keep presenting it as a fact, but it's not convincing evidence in the discussion of how Riley will perform at NU. The NFL is a totally different animal= if you want to add the NFL then you have to look at Rileys failure at SD then as well College football is a much different equation Rich Rod was sabotaged at Michigan- he would have been successful there had they left him alone Great book there about it, 3 and out. Friends at Michigan verified, very accurate Lots of great coaches won at every college stop Bear Bryant Urban Meyer Nick Saban Lou Holtz Riley- jury is out Rich Rod is a College great coach and will have a great career Past results DO matter Consistent Results either verify what you are doing makes sense, or they dont The best are going to win at every stop, no excuses So Nick Saban won at every stop? You must have forgot his stops at MSU and the Dolphins. And don't use that bullsh#t of " Well he went 9-2 his final year at MSU" Lou Holtz was fired at from the Patriots after about a 2-12 season. His record at South Carolina though winning, wasn't anything super special. I will give you the Bear and Urban. There are instances of coaches having success at one place and not another also. Pete Carrol, rich rod as you say, Jackie Sherril, Howard Snellenberger, Bill Belichek, the big tuna, Jimmmy Johnson, heck even Vince lumbardi didn't win everywhere these are just ones off the top of my head. Again- the NFL is NOT college football Totally different equation NO one I know of considers Jackie Sherril or Howard S- elite coaches. Howard failed at his 2 stops after Miami Neither will be in the Hall of Fame and Jackie failed at his last stop Vince L- by the way wrong about him, he did win everywhere he coached. Had he lived we would have had the Redskins in the Super Bowl by year 3 Jimmy Johnson, you are wrong about him as well. He also won at every spot- turned around really bad Dallas and OSU programs- won Nat Championships and Super Bowls. Great College coach. Holtz took bottom feeders and turned the programs around. By the time he left, they were winning Look at the scores At W&M one season they were about 14 points from being a 1 loss or undefeated team, significant progress. won a conference championship Turned around NC State into consistent winner, conference champions Great success at ND and Arkansas Turned around really bad Minny and SC programs Winners win Saban did a great job at MSU- no football person would say different He WON at MSU, left them a winner then won at places lots of guys had failed LSU and Bama

Facts are easily obtained, but questions of Riley's fit as HC at Nebraska are hypothetical no matter how you slice it. And while previous W/L records are simple and straight-forward, they don't appear to be a good predictor. Hoke had a good record before going to Michigan. RichRod looked good before going to Ann Arbor. And looked bad before getting to Tucson but is doing very well for the Wildcats. Pete Carroll wasn't good for the Patriots but has been exceptional at USC and Seattle. I thought Saban would have done a lot better in the NFL. There are also lots of W/L records that translated into success as well. Urban at Florida and again at tOSU is probably the best example. My point is that Riley's W/L record at Oregon St. doesn't mean much to how he'll perform at NU. You can keep presenting it as a fact, but it's not convincing evidence in the discussion of how Riley will perform at NU. The NFL is a totally different animal= if you want to add the NFL then you have to look at Rileys failure at SD then as well College football is a much different equation Rich Rod was sabotaged at Michigan- he would have been successful there had they left him alone Great book there about it, 3 and out. Friends at Michigan verified, very accurate Lots of great coaches won at every college stop Bear Bryant Urban Meyer Nick Saban Lou Holtz Riley- jury is out Rich Rod is a College great coach and will have a great career Past results DO matter Consistent Results either verify what you are doing makes sense, or they dont The best are going to win at every stop, no excuses

So, speaking of taking care of details and winning, Riley's record the past 5 seasons was 29-33.I wonder what Bo Pelini's record would be if he was coaching at Oregon St. the last five seasons, instead of at Nebraska. Stanford USC Oregon Washington UCLA Arizona St. There's six probable losses a year for Bo Pelini. Then throw in your unreasonable loss to a team that shouldn't be able to compete with you, like WSU, Cal, Utah or Arizona. In all reality, Bo probably loses 2 of those games because Cal, WSU, Utah, and Arizona are a lot more comparable to Oregon St. than Northwestern, Iowa, or Minnesota is to Nebraska. Imagine the whining about all the DISADVANTAGES he has to face at Oregon St. Holy crap, and this is a guy who thought he had it rough here. Sorry TheSker, it probably seems unreasonable to assume how Bo Pelini would do at a school he's never even coached a game at, huh? I like your post, but . . . Sac St ! You forgot Sac St ! And shouldn't it be Mr. MR?? Forgot Eastern Washington as well- Or Eastern Washington State Tech- whatever they call themselves that OSU also lost to

Many High School kids look to the entire experience when looking for options All kids are different I wouldnt want to go to college in the same town as I grew up in Spread your wings, go to another area of the country and grow up some I went over 1000 miles away to school, one of best decisions I made Best of luck to him

So, speaking of taking care of details and winning, Riley's record the past 5 seasons was 29-33. Those are the facts Hope for the best, support the team, but be realistic/sceptical

Did you know he was a bust from the beginning or what I said here several times that he had accuracy issues, which are the most difficult to fixI also said since he didn't get in at the Spring game until very late and when he did he looked bad meant he wouldn't be playing QB here at NU Several disagreed with that and said all it was going to take was some QB whispering- that his Elite 11 pedigree proved he deserved a shot etc I countered that Harrison Becks QB camp ratings didn't mean much either and that JS wouldn't be taking any QB snaps at NU Long term- Riley will not value or chase down QBs who run well and don't have consistently accurate arms From what I saw he was definitely behind TA, Darlington and Broekemeier. Broekemeier is a much better QB than most are giving credit, he's no Matt Turman, kid can play. Im not impressed with Bush (his tilt on the ball is awkward) or Fyfe, but even at that, being 4th best and not making the 105- he was done a long time ago. Oh so you thought he was a bust in April when four other QBs played in front of him. Wow how observant you are. There's no way you thought he was going to be a bust when he was first recruited. He was a bust when he wasn't even close to catching Fyfe for #2 last year When Riley was named coach and I knew the offense he wanted to run- Stanton wasn't a fit, so last year it was a forgone conclusion He wasn't going to be a "bust" if the type of O we were running favored an athlete playing QB like TM or Stanton. But he couldn't even elevate on the charts for that- let along a Pro Style O. BTW LOTS of guys were still on the Stanton bandwagon- just a couple of weeks ago right here on this forum- "he is an elite 11 guy, all he needs is some more good QB coaching- the QB whisperer can make him into something". I said it was never going to happen, people disagreed Those people were wrong

105 is just the limit- based on who they think can help them the most- get the most out of the earlier start Been done before- there was a JC QB in the Callahan era they wiffed on- moved him to safety He was on the team- just to complete his education A deal is a deal at NU anyways

I spoke to a buddy of mine from Florida called me the day Bo was fired He asked me what I thought I said, Bo did a nice job of getting us back to 9 wins after BC was fired, passionate guy However I felt he had topped out as a HC/CEO and the atmosphere he created just wasnt healthy in the long run I told him I didnt like the rants, he didnt rep the University well, he got outcoached some, but that a lot of the kids loved him and I know he had some good personal qualities as well Then I said my personal opinion would be based on how he left it. If he was positive, thankful, gracious and professional- then more power to him. But it didnt end that way, he revealed once again his true nature. I dont wish anything bad on the guy, but glad he is gone.

RG Not a fan of him taking himself out of the game so many times- limping off for a play or 2, then right back in That happened a bunch Same for him slamming the turf with what looked like some big injury- which wasnt I said it early last year- very immature player- never a big fan My buddies that are NFL fans who asked about him- I said, you dont want him, something not all there Reminded me of 10 year old kids faking injuries to get their "nfl moment" everyone paying attention to them during the game stoppage- then right back in

Super laid back guy Im sure it was quite a change from BP days

Saddleback is Coached by Mark McIlroy Mark is an excellent coach and a friend He is who I learned how to coach the Fly Sweep from. They are spread- throw and run and have a very good track record of sending kids to DI That offense may be a fit for JS Mark knows how to utilize various strengths and isnt afraid to run the ball a bunch and PA when he doesnt have a consistently accurate thrower They will run the inverted veer off of Fly and even QB traps and powers with kids like JS

Did you know he was a bust from the beginning or what I said here several times that he had accuracy issues, which are the most difficult to fix I also said since he didn't get in at the Spring game until very late and when he did he looked bad meant he wouldn't be playing QB here at NU Several disagreed with that and said all it was going to take was some QB whispering- that his Elite 11 pedigree proved he deserved a shot etc I countered that Harrison Becks QB camp ratings didn't mean much either and that JS wouldn't be taking any QB snaps at NU Long term- Riley will not value or chase down QBs who run well and don't have consistently accurate arms From what I saw he was definitely behind TA, Darlington and Broekemeier. Broekemeier is a much better QB than most are giving credit, he's no Matt Turman, kid can play. Im not impressed with Bush (his tilt on the ball is awkward) or Fyfe, but even at that, being 4th best and not making the 105- he was done a long time ago.

For those who thought Stanton was the man, was in the mix, was going to play You were wrong Very evident by his lack of mention this spring and his poor play in spring game Lack of accuracy is not easy to fix

For all of you who thought Stanton was the guy, was in the mix, was one of the top guys, could start You were wrong As he showed in Spring practice and the Spring game

Its not hiring your buddies, as much as bringing yourself to fire your buddies if they can not do their jobs. Tom did it, Frank did it, Billy did not and Bo did not (he did fire some, but not for on the field results) Loyalty is one thing, stubbornness is another. LOL....Frank got crucified by fans for "firing his buddies". That isnt how I remembered it It was time for a change and there was some improvement thanks to it Also not every 50 year old+ guy is interested in chasing down impressionable 18 year old kids every night on the telephone Recruiting was becoming a real chore for many of those guys I remember several of them talking about their "used car salesmanship" course they had to take in order to become better recruiters. They hated the course, the fact they had to call kids at hme interrupting their dinner, they hated recruiting. Do guys hire who they know and trust? Yes, most do Was the NU staff under BP young and inexperienced? Yes But there was a lot of years in the Callahan staff- mostly guys he knew and trusted That didnt work out so well Years of experience are good- but it guarantees little with the exception of more mature and effective PR/Media relations at least with this staff IMO They havent really won anything or been consistent Im hopeful but skeptical I see in our DC the very same results and relationship Callahan had with Cosgrove

I disagree There are a few foam finger fans who don't get it Supporting the team, that's great. But not being realistic about where we really are isn't healthy for the program. They are in the minority More here on this Board than in the general population Most fans get it, are supportive of the team and program, but not predicting or talking about/ legitimately expecting 0-1-2 loss seasons every year. Especially not this year Most fans are hopeful but also realistic and skeptical Personally- I saw bad football being played from the start and had no thought or interest in NU making the playoff. NU was not in the same plain as the teams in the Final 4- there was zero chance that was a reality in 2014 Step 1 is learning how to not beat ourselves. Dominate the lesser teams. Lets do that this season, not get beat by the likes of Minnesota for the THIRD year in a row or an Iowa, play more fundamentally sound, mentally strong, be in the top 30 in turnover margin, play more competitively and build from there.

Lots of NU fans think todays NU blocks so much differently than in days past That zone is some new fangled passive way of blocking Tenopir ran both Inside and outside zone- and a lot of it http://trojanfootballanalysis.com/?p=33

Some are probably phonys However- most people have NO CLUE at all how much effort, consistency and sacrifice is required to perform at that level Most people have no clue how rare a legit DI player is in the whole sea of kids who have played football from a young age- High School A lot of those kids are legit, thankful for each offer I have no problem with them showing their appreciation and if they are legit, thankful- being blessed etc Them getting a little juice- who cares, they earned it

I traveled to CR and QC at least 2 times a month for 15+ years Definitely deep jealousy there as well. maybe not quite the "hatred" as Western Iowa DIfferent types of jealousy IMO In Texas- where I spent a huge amount of time for 7-8 years and 2-3 times a year now- they dislike NU because we won National Titles without cheating- no population base, not huge amount of $$ compared to them. They would bring up a lot of silly stuff to bring NU down- Cheapen the National Titles- mostly made up stuff. They have an embarrassment of riches down there with very little to show for it in last 40+ years. I guess I would be embarrassed too if I was them. Iowans have a much different deal going on. Making fun of how serious NU takes its football Revelling in any slip up an NU team makes

Iowa City is a beautiful place in the fall- along the river with rolling hills and leaves changing Airliner has good pizza, Amanas have great food. Good 4 hour road trip from Omaha. Well worth the trip But Iowa fans are unusual Hatred for NU even back in the 80s and 90s when we really didnt play much- didnt get that at all Must be a jealousy thing Not very "football smart" fans Got really tired about "how bout them hawks" talk- from uninformed fans when I used to spend a lot of time in CR- QC- DM Did like their homer radio personalities - Jim Zwabel and Ed Podolak though

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True But we held them to 50 rushing While it was just a 14 point win- I felt like we dominated the game Very satisfying win- great day of football- then off for some great Seafood

NU was up 21-0 and had right at 400 yards rushing- never felt the game was in doubt Held Washington to less than 50 yards rushing Watch the play here at about .30- one of TOs gems LOTS of leg room- background is Lake Washington and was in the shade under the overhang- GREAT place to watch a game Fake FB trap- Buck Follow to the QB- NO ONE runs anything like that: