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Great football? How about just adequate football, which would have NU at 5-3 at worst. I defy anyone to explain exactly what Langs is trying to achieve offensively from play to play. He's a "grab bag" play caller and unless he radically changes the way he runs his offense, NU will be a .500 team under this staff. I'm so sick of people speculating about the locker room culture. There's no actual evidence of that as an issue; just speculation based on some unrelated tweets. And I gues some "eyeball tests" around "effort."

Probably no more than we will be in a few years. Though, Mangino was truly a prick (and actually abusive to his players). If NU starts getting killed, this staff won't last more than another season.

Get him cm husker! This focker Cavanaugh thinks he know more about coaching the offensive line than you do! That derty sumbeach! Huh? Not sure why you threw this in this thread or called me out about substitutions. I've not said much, if anything, on the topic. But because you raised it, Cavanaugh is extremely misguided if he thinks these kids are going to "get ready" while never touching the field. Practice is great, but it can't simulate game situations. I don't care what the NFL does; guys rotate and need to rotate in college because that's how you gain experience and prepare for when the class turnsover. This is discussions is really related to another significant concern I have about this offense and the philosophy being instilled now: if you can't pass block, you can't play. That's why we have guys like Wilbon, who has showed flashes of real ability as a dynamic running back, riding the pine. Because the premium put on "pass pro" keeps guys on the bench. As I've said, Ameer would have struggled to see the field in this offense. And the same is true of certain OL men. Pass blocking is one of the most difficult tasks, mentally and physically, that you can put on an OL. It takes a ton of time in practice to work the various looks an OL may face in a given game and understand exactly how it fits together. Run blocking on the contrary, though it can be more complicated, is less reaction based and more aggressive. A guy has to learn his assignment and go execute, not learn his assignment based on a variety of situations, read the correct situation at game speed and then execute. I have a simple philosophy when it comes to college offense: reduce the number of "choices" or reads placed on players by putting defenses in a position where they have to commit to one look or another. This is true of the passing game, which is why I like option employed, as it simplifies defensive coverages usually. It's why I like run based offenses, because it makes it "easier" on the OL to know what he's doing and go out and exert his will on the opponent. No one can tell me that guys like Tanner Farmer, with his physical ability alone, doesn't deserve a look at game speed. We need to run an offense that gives our playmakers a chance.

2013 8 picks in 131 attempts2014 12 picks in 345 attempts 2015 7 picks in 284 attempts Do you think 7 in 284 is bad, average or good compared to other college QBs?

At this point? It's the system. no doubt. They have their guy coming in January. They tried to do it the player's way. But the Oline doesnt have the talent or the mentality (or health for that matter) to be a nasty downhill running team. I recall when cally had his guy coming too. Good old HB. We have no idea what the OL has because they won't rotate young talent because apparently Cav can't prepare the backups well enough "mentally."

me?Yes. Your post about him is in lalaland. tell me how. Dont just say it. Give me a legit argument. Otherwise my opinion of you will remain. That youre not a thinker at all and you just wanna spew sh#t to make yourself feel better about your opinion. Tell me how so. Itll be fun. I promise. It's not worth trying to educate you because you're already convinced. Anyone who takes a single throw among 49 attempts and says that's the best indicator of him as a QB is just not going to listen to reason.

Has there been a change in eligibility I'm unaware of? And was Beck an OC longer than we were led to believe?

me? Yes. Your post about him is in lalaland.

God, I just realized that Tommy is 11th in attempts among QBs at this point. If it's to be believed that TA is as bad as some claim, does that mean this staff is stupid enough to put him in positions to fail or that they don't really care about winning games as much as they do about system?

What's his int to attempt ratio? Everything you pretty much wrote about the kid is bullsh#t.

"You almost have to hit rock bottom to get better" Then why isn't Kansas football a national champion yet?

This is the central point hit squarely on the head. The implication in the article is that "if we'd won half of those close losses, we'd be ranked the same as last year" but reality is that if we'd won by 1 instead of lost by 1, these "fancy" analytics would basically keep us in the same position. Because, as is being argued by Sam, actual wins and losses don't matter much in them. It's really about performance against competition strength, regardless of actual outcome.

Riley has a clear plan? What makes you think that versus Bo, who was actuall part of great programs and around the games best coaches his entire career? There's a myth that Bo is a dumb ogre. In reality, he's got an extremely sharp mind, and though I don't put huge emphasis on this, he was an academic all big ten player. everyone who is around him refers to him as very intelligent. This season is a culmination of some awful administrators firing a .700 coach and replacing him with a sub .500 coach. It's really not as complicated as you're trying to make it. Losing close games is neither unbelievable or a sign that a coach is close to winning. That's just more false hope layered onto the crap cake people have been fed by this admin since the change.

The staff was considered an upgrade by almost everyone at almost every position until a few weeks ago. The power of rationalization is strong in people. I would like to know how Cav was ever considered an upgrade over a young, knowledgeable, enthusiastic garrison, for example. Or how we upgraded at RB, OC or DB. Don't get me stated on DC. Maybe the wr and lb coaching changes were a wash.

You thoroughly missed the point. Feel free to replace them with any actually successful coach today.

It's absolutely about the record. And not just 3-5. People who pretend it's not about results are the worst sort of apologists. I get disagreement about what are acceptable results. But to pretend that this team is the same as other teams or better than all other 5 loss teams or some other obscure comparison... Spare me.

All this Ameer won this and Ameer carried that. How much success did the Bo Jackson Auburn teams have? 17-8 with a pedestrian offense that never averaged more than 30 points a game. Look at Ameer's early stats. Solid, but not spectacular; not to mention he wasn't able to displace Rex (who I think is extremely underrated and a great back in his own right). Backs develop and backs are a product of their systems. We have a lot of raw talent in the RB group. It's not their fault it's not being developed and utilized.

I doubt many fans are overly gloomy about the staff because of the 3-5 record. Not sure but I doubt it. My guess is that most of the excessive negativity is coming from a small minority of vocal (vocal *now*) fans. Some of the small group are people who really don't understand analytics at all. 3-5 to them is dispositive. The end. Then there are some agenda folks anti mike, AD, or Perlman plus some pro Bo's. And last but not least are the complainers. They do it because it's what they do. 3-5 is good fodder. Zoogs thanks for the op. Interesting. I'm not anti-Mike (but am very anti-Pederson, I mean Eichorst, and his boss). NU screwed up big time going against what TO thought was best for football. We'll suffer the penalty, and all the pretzeled "analytics" aside, this is a .500 staff doing what a .500 staff does. Knute Rockne and Bob Devaney would have a hell of a chuckle over this nonsense. And of course the bottom line is that NU didn't upgrade at all. At best we stayed the same, but have a super nice laid back senior citizen coaching the Huskers now.

The only system I could see him excelling in is a system that either very rarely requires him to pass or a system where he is a wildcat QB. So, something like Tebow's system at Florida. Armstrong is a much better passer than many of our most successful QBs, for the record.

Reality is, NU will finally be "compelled" to run it with commitment, and as a result will win by 30 plus with 300 yards plus on the ground.

Armstrong would be all conference in a better system with better coaches. Dude is a baller. If Ryfe lights it up, that's great... against Purdue. Purdue. Purdue.

There are no words. John Blake > Tom Osborne.

I'm with you.....I get tired of hearing "but all the dropped passes". Well, stop passing 49 flippin' times. How about the receivers start making catches? That's why they are one the team right? To catch the damn ball? Receivers at all levels drop balls. It's part of the game. Funny thing is, on each possession where there was a drop, save one that I recall, NU came away with a score. So, again, you're focusing on the wrong stuff.

This is why the Riley hiring really struck me as odd when it was announced. Personally, I was and still am very excited about the Riley hiring. However, I do wonder why he took the job? He has been given ample opportunities over the years to leave Oregon State, but he stayed. He was offered much better jobs than here, yet he stayed at Oregon State. Riley has been around the block enough times to know exactly what he was getting himself into by taking this job. The one thing I still do not understand is why he took it. Going to a program underperforming in a recruiting hotbed like USC sounds a lot more enjoyable than coming to a program who just fired a perennial nine win coach where recruiting is difficult at best. The only thing similar between Riley and Clownahan is the situations they inherited when they came here. Both came into a situation where there was a lot of questioning with regards if the previous coach should have been removed. Both came into a program that had won nine games the year before. Other than that, there really is no comparison. Honest answer, he was going to be force retired/resigned. People were not happy with his results there. And the offers to better jobs than Nebraska, to the extent one can rely on those rumors, were years ago and in the midst of the moderately successful run that OSU had between '06 and '08. Even then, it was a bit of a mirage. Oregon State was fairly talented those years. From the 2007 to the 2009 drafts, they had 11 guys draft. Despite that, they lost to some awful teams badly those years. By comparison, NU had 10 guys drafted (including a kicker). Personally, I think the serious offers/interests to Riley weren't really there.

What about that play makes you say it's a "me play?" It looks to me like he just got beat, with a holding-assist by #40 who appears to yank him toward the right. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDVeQFoOspY?t=2h22m12s Yeah, Collins shouldn't have retaliated and got the PF later on. But the game was practically over anyway. I'm sure Collins was frustrated. Like every other game this year, NU had many, many opportunities to win these games. None of them should have hinged on a single play. I'm not sure, but perhaps the suggestion is that Collins was more interested in pile-driving the dude across from him rather than sticking to his responsibilities. His actions a couple plays later would seem to corroborate that. Is it a case where the other guy "beat" him? He charged headlong into the center's right shoulder. Rather than eat space and clog up the running lanes, he vacated it and left a stunning gap that the announcers were chuckling about afterwards. He & the rest of the Blackshirts had largely done a very good job early on in the game, but all the talent in the world can't account for a lapse in focus/judgement like that. With where they sent Banderas, this was Collins' lone responsibility. If he had gotten blown off the ball, that's maybe just a good play by the other guy. But he tried charging into the backfield, and the next guy up was the safety way downfield. I agree that it wasn't about this one play, and he wasn't the only Husker all game to do something wrong. But if they were speaking to him afterwards about it, this is probably what it was about. Reality is, you don't know what his assignment was on that play. For all we know, Bando blitzed the wrong whole there. Or newby didn't fill over the top properly.