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I watched the game again last night on the B1G Network. Sapp did not get beat all game long. In fact, we tried a couple of times to throw a shuffle pass to LP up the middle only to have it completely blown up by Sapp. Sapp for the most part played really well in that game. The one player who I'd kind of forgot about all these years was Ray Lewis. He made a few hits, but he wasn't nearly as disruptive that game as he went on to be in the NFL. The other thing I'd completely forgot about all these years is how Miami for a lot of the game simply looked like a monkey humping a football. They had receivers who were wide open dropping passes. They also had that high snap on the punt giving us the ball on their four yard line. The way they were wracking up penalties and such reminded me of how undisciplined we are at times now. Sapp was pretty dominant in the first half, but he was playing in a 1-3 defense, instead of a 4-3, so he was gassed by the 2nd half. As for Miami's WRs, that was not our most talented group of wideouts. Chris T. Jones, #85, went on to play for the Eagles, and he was good, but not great, but other than that, we didn't really have anyone who was a typical Miami WR. Yatil Green was a true freshman, so he wasn't the player he would become, and even he wasn't in the same line as previous Miami wideouts. This offense was not even close to Miami offenses from before. There was no Lamar Thomas, Randall Hill, Michael Irvin, Eddie Brown, etc.

i am not sure anyone uses a FB anymore, maybe Wiscky? We actually have used a FB a lot lately.

Sweet, we back

Yes, but I doubt he plays. I have to imagine Heaps will be the backup, and Kaaya starts. Now, Golden has done some crazy stuff, like starting a true freshman on the road against Louisville in his first start and then only running like 12 plays, so, who knows.

Not saying he was a great coach, but Erickson won his 2nd title, in '91, with a lot of his players. Erickson's first year was '89, so that title was with all of Johnson's players, but the core of the '91 team were juniors. They won the title in '91 and lost the title game in '92 to Alabama. My bad. I completely forgot the '91 title team. I remember how everyone was shocked that Bama beat them in '92 for the National Championship. Turnovers and a bad OL. Miami outgained Alabama. They actually held Alabama to under 300 yards of offense, and under 100 passing yards, but Miami turned it over 4 times. It was very similar to the Fiesta Bowl when Miami dominated Penn State statistically, but lost because Testaverde kept throwing it to the wrong team.

We almost dropped football in the 70s, we were that bad.

Not saying he was a great coach, but Erickson won his 2nd title, in '91, with a lot of his players. Erickson's first year was '89, so that title was with all of Johnson's players, but the core of the '91 team were juniors. They won the title in '91 and lost the title game in '92 to Alabama.

Ah, the "other" type of Miami fan arrives. Don't judge.

I'm still upset I missed that live when I was at the game. The best part is, if you watch the entire play, the guy gets up, and gets absolutely obliterated by the defender. Stewart Mandel on twitter has a link to the coach explaining why they did that. It also shows the guy get demolished when he tries to get up. Someone posted on our board that he was ineligible and it was to make another player eligible, they just got creative in doing it. I get the point, and Channing Crowder, former Gator and Dolphins LB, who has a radio show in South Florida, said today if he was on the field defending the guy, he would have looked to the sidelines calling for a trainer to help the dead guy. Thankfully, Thurston Armbrister, our LB, didn't really buy it.

I'm still upset I missed that live when I was at the game. The best part is, if you watch the entire play, the guy gets up, and gets absolutely obliterated by the defender.

Not really sure what to do with that..... Can't really agree with that. Miami would have got there eventually. Even if we had made the 2-pointer and held on, that whole program would have felt like "well, we were one play away from a title with a freshman QB, let's get it next year". They probably would have won it in '84. As it turned out '84 was a wide open year and I think Miami probably had a bit of a hangover, hence the Flutie game. Nebraska's trajectory would have been interesting. A step backward was going to happen regardless with the loss of Gill, Fryar, et al. I think had Osborne won the '83 title, he probably does eventually collect one or two more, but possibly earlier than he did. And he probably retires a little earlier as a result. So everything that's happened since may have still happened but maybe shifted forward a few years. I'm glad someone else pointed that out, so I didn't have to. As for 1984, Miami took a step back because of the initial response to hiring Jimmy Johnson. He was someone no one in Miami had ever heard of. The players from '83 team and most fans wanted the DC, hired. When Johnson was hired, he was forced to keep most of the staff from '83, including the DC, who others felt should have been the coach. Miami started the year beating #1 Auburn and Bo Jackson in the kickoff classic and then Kosar led them 80 yards in 30 seconds to beat Florida in Tampa. Miami rose from#10 to #1. The next week they lost at Michigan. They would lose at home to Florida State 38-3 before winning 5 in a row to go to 8-2. Even though they were 8-2 and ranked #6, it was clear there were problems. The offense could score at will, but the defense couldn't stop anyone. The next week they led Maryland 31-0 at home at the half, only to lose 42-40. The next week was the Flutie game. After that, Miami was still ranked #13, but lost another thriller to #14 UCLA 39-37 in the Fiesta Bowl. Johnson got rid of the "holdover" staff, and the next year Miami went 10-2, 11-1 in 1986, 12-0 in '87 and 11-1 in '88, and the rest is history.

So many games like that for Nebraska Fan. We lost seven straight bowl games just before that 1994 win. It looked like we were going to lose again, even midway through the 4th quarter, until Frazier put on his Superman cape and willed the team to win. Remember that Costa nearly threw a 60-somthing yard TD bomb late in the 4th quarter that would have put you guys up again. Could have changed the course of history if he'd connected, because your receiver was wide open. Only thing saving Nebraska's butt on that one was we had broken down your O Line so badly Costa had no chance to set and throw that ball - he just heaved it and prayed while getting absolutely buried. Again. Of course, you guys got payback in 2001, an utterly dominating performance that I never want to watch again, so don't think we don't know how you folks feel. We do. Moreso. Yes, Taj Johnson, was the receiver for Miami that was wide open. I bet if you ask 10 Miami fans, 9 don't remember him. He did absolutely nothing in his Miami career. That Miami team was so frustrating. A Horrible offense, but a dominant defense. DL of Kenard Lang and Kenny Holmes at the ends and Warren Sapp and Patrick Riley at the DT (Riley would have been a first round pick, but he got hurt). LBs led by Ray Lewis and Rohan Marley, and a secondary that had 2 or 3 All-Americans in it in Richardson, Jones and Pearson. Stupid Dennis Erickson and his duck and chuck Frank Costa led, no offense line offense.

Painful memories for me. Our offense really hung our defense out to dry in that game. I think I'll watch the '84, '89, '92 OB games or the '02 Rose Bowl instead. You guys enjoy this one. I was there, don't think I can stomach it again.

Kaaya has 5 INT's in 3 games. Sounds like he's putting some up for grabs. Is he lobbing them deep or not seeing the LB's underneath or what? 2 INTs were against Louisville. The first he didn't see a safety on an intermediate throw, and the second was on one of the last plays of the game, when we were down 31-13. He threw 2 against FAMU, and both were the WRs fault (well, one the TE). One was a ball in the endzone that the WR didn't make a play on, and the other hit the TE in the hands and bounced right to the DB. He threw one on his last pass attempt against ASU when the game was over. He threw right to a safety or LB. None were really just chucking it up and hoping for the best. IIRC, the one he threw at the safety was when he was getting pressured and didn't want to be sacked. He seemed to do this a few times against Louisville who also has a good D-Line. I don't know how much he has improved on this, but it will be a key for Miami to be successful to get the ball out quickly and keep Kaaya calm. He hasn't made the best decisions when under pressure, but he started to throw it away more, rather than try and force it, last game, which is key, and something Morris and Harris never did.

Not really sure what to do with that.....

Kaaya has 5 INT's in 3 games. Sounds like he's putting some up for grabs. Is he lobbing them deep or not seeing the LB's underneath or what? 2 INTs were against Louisville. The first he didn't see a safety on an intermediate throw, and the second was on one of the last plays of the game, when we were down 31-13. He threw 2 against FAMU, and both were the WRs fault (well, one the TE). One was a ball in the endzone that the WR didn't make a play on, and the other hit the TE in the hands and bounced right to the DB. He threw one on his last pass attempt against ASU when the game was over. He threw right to a safety or LB. None were really just chucking it up and hoping for the best.

The quick passes will nullify a good DL. Screens and anything with the RB going into the flats or the TE doing a delayed drag hurts us. As mentioned above, one thing I have never worried about under Bo is our pass defense. That is one thing he adjusts. If you spread it out, I imagine going to base dime or nickel to get speed on speed and get up in the receivers face. I might eat my words, but I don't think passing will win the game....Now jet sweeps is another thing. We throw a lot of quick passes, but not a lot to RBs. We do get the TE involved a lot too, and have a good TE. I did an depth analysis of Miami in another thread. As much as the TE has hurt us, we finally used it last week for 2 TD's. I hope to seed it more. What about Dorsett? Have most of his yards come on "big plays" or YAC. Read he's ave almost 36 yards/catch this season. Dorsett's first TD was a bomb. His second TD was a screen where he made the DB miss and was off. He also caught another bomb for like 50 yards. He had a diving 35 yard TD against FAMU, and a 30+ yard catch against Louisville. So, basically, a mixture, but the really long passes have only come in the last game (to anyone). Golden has admitted that the playbook was barely opened against Louisville because they didn't trust Kaaya (another reason a lot of us have no faith in Golden, but that's an argument for another time), and then the same against FAMU since it wasn't needed. We used most of the playbook last week, and it showed in Kaaya's performance and numbers.

If Coley plays and is 100%, he is better than Dorsett He may not be a "better" receiver, but it's the speed of Dorsett I fear. If you don't stop him at the line or otherwise slow him down, he will blow past people and their freshman qb can get him the long ball. Dorsett is faster, but Coley was clocked at 4.38, so it's not like he's slow or anything. Coley is also 6-1, 185, while Dorsett is 5-10 (on a good day), so he's a handful for other reasons. Trust me, if they're both out there, I'd be more worried about Coley. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veREL5g-wWc You are probably right, as I don't know that much about Miami and Coley, but Dorsett runs 4.21, and got over 200 yards on 4 catches, with two touchdowns, last week. Man, I'm starting to psych myself out. The Kool aid usually flows strong with me. Coley didn't play. That's why I said if Coley plays and is 100%.

The quick passes will nullify a good DL. Screens and anything with the RB going into the flats or the TE doing a delayed drag hurts us. As mentioned above, one thing I have never worried about under Bo is our pass defense. That is one thing he adjusts. If you spread it out, I imagine going to base dime or nickel to get speed on speed and get up in the receivers face. I might eat my words, but I don't think passing will win the game....Now jet sweeps is another thing. We throw a lot of quick passes, but not a lot to RBs. We do get the TE involved a lot too, and have a good TE. I did an depth analysis of Miami in another thread.

That's fair, to an extent, though the '83 team shouldn't be lumped in there with the "bad boy" image teams. That was Schnellenberger. It really started under Johnson in '84. As for Thug U, as I said in another thread, that name is there, and it's used, but even that isn't completely accurate. They danced on the field, and wore fatigues, and talked trash, but they weren't getting arrested off the field. They weren't killing people, raping women, etc. They weren't doing the stuff, that say, Oklahoma was doing under Switzer, but they have that reputation because they wore fatigues to the 1986 Fiesta Bowl instead of suits. Everyone remembers that they walked out of the "Steak Fry" dinner at the Fiesta Bowl with Penn State, and calls them "Thugs," but everyone forgets that Jerome Brown led the walkout because the Penn State punter got on stage and told a racist joke, prompting them to leave. Everyone thinks the players were running around campus raping women, when they were actually running up the score on Gerry Faust, embarrassing him 58-7 on national TV in his last game, leading Ara Parseghian to basically call them thugs on the national broadcast. My exact reasons for disliking UM, Penn St and only the past few years have I been able to watch NCIS and not hate Mark Harmon! To each his own

If Coley plays and is 100%, he is better than Dorsett He may not be a "better" receiver, but it's the speed of Dorsett I fear. If you don't stop him at the line or otherwise slow him down, he will blow past people and their freshman qb can get him the long ball. Dorsett is faster, but Coley was clocked at 4.38, so it's not like he's slow or anything. Coley is also 6-1, 185, while Dorsett is 5-10 (on a good day), so he's a handful for other reasons. Trust me, if they're both out there, I'd be more worried about Coley. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veREL5g-wWc

That's fair, to an extent, though the '83 team shouldn't be lumped in there with the "bad boy" image teams. That was Schnellenberger. It really started under Johnson in '84. As for Thug U, as I said in another thread, that name is there, and it's used, but even that isn't completely accurate. They danced on the field, and wore fatigues, and talked trash, but they weren't getting arrested off the field. They weren't killing people, raping women, etc. They weren't doing the stuff, that say, Oklahoma was doing under Switzer, but they have that reputation because they wore fatigues to the 1986 Fiesta Bowl instead of suits. Everyone remembers that they walked out of the "Steak Fry" dinner at the Fiesta Bowl with Penn State, and calls them "Thugs," but everyone forgets that Jerome Brown led the walkout because the Penn State punter got on stage and told a racist joke, prompting them to leave. Everyone thinks the players were running around campus raping women, when they were actually running up the score on Gerry Faust, embarrassing him 58-7 on national TV in his last game, leading Ara Parseghian to basically call them thugs on the national broadcast.

Kaaya hasn't thrown many balls up for grabs this year, that was more Jacory Harris and Stephen Morris. Not that he's going to throw INTs, but he's a different type of QB, and we run a different type of offense. We throw more quick passes, WR screens, hitches, then we do bombs. Last game was the last game we actually went vertical all season.

If Coley plays and is 100%, he is better than Dorsett

Nevin Shaprio? He provided to Benihana dinners and free drinks at clubs to players. Illegal? Yes. Worse than academic cheating scandals at FSU and UNC? Hardly. Worse than the 30+ Florida players arrested under Urban Meyer? Hardly.