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1 hour ago, JJ Husker said:

I don’t want to hog all the action here but I’m gonna say Al Gore.

I don’t think I even know who Michael Shannon is.....

 

Edit- I googled Shannon. I know who he is, just didn't know his name. Still going with the inventor of the internet.

Nope Al Gore stayed in the same hotel as us in Kansas City on the campaign trail in 2000. He shook my hand when he came out of the elevator surrounded by Secret Service.

It was my 11th birthday and my mom took us to Worlds of Fun  

Al Gore

Michael Shannon

Larry the Cable Guy

Hillary Swank

Lauren Daigle

@Huskers93-97 seems to take issue with things that aren't facts being presented as facts.

What's not clear however, is if the issue is with the language of 'fact' or if it's with things that have overwhelming evidence of being true being treated as if they're true.

Gravity isn't a fact. Gravity is a theory. But we operate in the world and communicate and live as if gravity is a FACT. Is this something you don't like? Newtonian physics are wrong, but we still use them all the time because they're useful and they work for what we need them to. Do we take offense to people claiming that newton math is a fact?

The use of 'facts' in every day life, much like the use of proof, is one of utility. Because facts and proof don't actually exist. The doctor at Stanford agrees with this, as does every scientist.

You can't prove that things will always fall down when dropped. You can't prove that energy is conserved. You can't prove that stars are far away. You can't even prove that we're really here. But you can collect evidence. And you collect more and more, bigger and bigger piles, and when the piles get big enough you operate in the world in a way that you take them for granted. That's what a scientific theory is. 

6 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

Is science useful? Yes

 

Is science reliable? Sometimes. 

 

A big reason you see people fighting it is because many portray science as unwavering FACTS. It is not facts, it is educated guesses. Like you said the variables change all the time thus changing the recommendations. All throughout history science has been proven wrong more times than they are proven right I would say. Because as time goes by they discover new variables. Just when they think they know all the variables they discover new ones which change the old "FACTS". 

 

I am not anti science. It has done many wonderful things in human history. But it is not the end all be all I would bet my life on. 

 

All that said I think masks do help, so the mask police can chill out. That is not why I am saying science is not facts.

Part of science is facts. In fact, the concept of 'fact' only exists because of philosophy and science. Part of science is also educated guesses, but you misrepresent the nature of the scientific method in a huge way by saying that "it" isn't facts but is guesses. 

Science has been proven wrong a lot because it's supposed to. The difference is that it's not dogmatic (with obvious human exceptions). Religious claims have been proven wrong, but dig their feet in deeper instead of growing and changing. Science is proven wrong and uses that to continue to get closer. 

'Many wonderful things in human history' includes essentially every physical luxury, tool, technology, entertainment, medicine and piece of knowledge that exists in the world today. Including this messageboard  

6 minutes ago, Crusader Husker said:

Maybe I just in tired of all of this and I needed to vent.  Seriously, I feel better, but nothing has changed.

Nothing wrong with that. As much as many of us have a message of "IT'S NOT THAT HARD you're being asked to sacrifice very little" this is uncharted territory for pretty much all of us and we've all suffered in different ways from it. 

16 minutes ago, 84HuskerLaw said:

Misleading at best. 

Hype is inherently misleading by nature. That's why it's hype.

27 minutes ago, 84HuskerLaw said:

Loaded means what?  

Number of bodies?   7.

 Top ten RBs?  unknown.

Returning producers?  1

Returning players with serious knee injury history?   Several

Returning experience?   a couple

 

Potential starters?   5

 

The tweet isn't meant to be science the tweet is meant to be hype.

2 hours ago, Crusader Husker said:

 It just seems like research and medical opinions keep changing, or better yet evolving.  I am in charge of facilities.  What we have to do seems to evolve every week.

@VectorVictor already got this and this isn't an attack on you, but that's what science is and that's what makes science useful and reliable. 

We build models that predict results, which are falsifiable, and then the predictions either are or aren't true, which results in the models being tweaked and through time and work and peer review and expertise, they end up the best possible knowledge attainable in the realm of things like deadly pathogens.

Religion is pretty neutral in terms of the behavior and morality of mankind. A lot of good and done both in the name of and against it, people still stay pretty much the same. I know some amazing Christians and I know so many stuffy judgmental Christians when all the gay/atheist/muslim friends I had were kind and gracious.

admo's post reaked of self-righteousness that they're more noble and enlightened than the rest of us pitiful souls who have tempers and anger. Which I still think it was, but also, it happens and we all do it. I've been a pompous a$$ on this board more times than could be counted.

wow @admo you're so enlightened please lead us proud simpletons into the truth

1 hour ago, hunter49 said:

the American public is being duped in many ways.

Well... only a certain part of the public.

4 hours ago, Enhance said:

Based on what I've read, it's not wholly fair to compare the containment success of H1N1 to COVID-19 based solely on infection and death rates and use that as a basis for determining whether the CDC did/has done their job right.

careful knapp might be ready to accuse you of defending trump

4 hours ago, TGHusker said:

tRump's approval down to 36%    Who are the 36%?

 

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3666

You have to keep in mind that 36% is still higher than the percentage of the country that truly supports him. The polls are biased at least in the fact that they only report people who willingly take part in them - how many 35 and under people do you know that take part in polling? Hell sometimes it feels like I haven't answered a phone call in years  

3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

There are one hell of a lot of people who just flat out don't like Hillary and it has nothing to do with her being a woman.

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Sure, there's idiots that are never going to vote for a woman. 

re: the bold, as far as they know. Stuff like this is complicated and largely unconscious. There are very few people who explicitly in their own heads decide "I don't like women" or "I don't like black people", yet the amount of evidence of unfavorable treatment is much higher than those small slivers of the population.

Not accusing you of this, just saying that Hillary being a woman and Hillary being unlikeable are different things, but in all of our heads they're weaved together like a messy matrix to some extent and it's not immediately easy to separate one from the other when you've got unconscious bias. 

39 minutes ago, Undone said:

 

I'm curious how many of these 20 total guys wound up showing symptoms. I'll see if I can find any info on that.

What does that matter?

9 minutes ago, 4skers89 said:

I see no inaccuracies in their US reporting. 

Weird how coincidentally you're a super duper big brain smart conservative and you find no inaccuracies in specifically conservative news.

1 hour ago, 4skers89 said:

These multi-national American companies don't give a damn about American people.

1 hour ago, 4skers89 said:

It's the exact opposite, the multi-nationals still want the fools gold that is the China market

Boy do I have some news to share with you about how Trump makes money.

The police definitely seem to have a little too common a habit of escalating with weapons rather than de-escalating. There's actually a thread about that, with over 700 documented cases of bad police behavior over the last several weeks you should check it out.

At least the police have trigger training.

2 hours ago, Atbone95 said:

The number of cases are way higher - Former FDA head Dr. Scott Gottlieb estimates we're diagnosing 1 in 10 to 1 in 12 cases right now. At 58k positive tests yesterday, we should estimate (lower end) that ~580k people would have tested positive if everyone went to get tested and we had the capacity. The Mississippi governor is a math guy but he completely left this part off of his equation. 

That's because they miss the point, which is even with vague estimates of the true infection, herd immunity is not realistic or humane or realistically attainable. You said it'd take 200 days to reach 120 mil, but even that is still only half of what they're saying it would take to reach herd immunity. But even in half the time to reach half the inflection point to "solve" the problem, how many people dead? 

15 minutes ago, 4skers89 said:

Biden wants to get rid of AR15s, the gun Mark McCloskey used to defend his home.  

Mark McCloskey is a pompous douchebag who probably broke the law, was 'defending' his home against zero people trying to get in to his home, definitely shouldn't own that specific gun and is lucky that his escalation didn't turn lethal as those situations too often do.

13 hours ago, TGHusker said:

The role of govt is in part to curb the worst in us &  to create a civil society that protects everyone while at the same time giving us the freedom to be creative in our business and personal endeavors. 

Exactly. And what's hilarious is that Trump supporters like him because he's populist. He's "for the little guy", he runs on not being a Washington bureaucrat but is looking out for you and me, the people that the government is screwing over. 

You know who's actually populist? The democratic socialist Bernie Sanders. His platform is entirely based on making sure that all of us, especially the most vulnerable and struggling, can still live in security and dignity and with a fair chance to succeed. 

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"What democratic socialism means to me is we expand Medicare, we provide educational opportunity to all Americans, we rebuild our crumbling infrastructure," Sanders added. "In other words,

government serves the needs of all people rather than just wealthy campaign contributors. That's what it means to me."

 

- Bernie Sanders

Even from the Democratic Socialists of America website:

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"At the root of our socialism is a profound commitment to democracy, as means and end. As we are unlikely to see an immediate end to capitalism tomorrow, DSA fights for reforms today that will

weaken the power of corporations and increase the power of working people."

These are things that Trump supporters actually support. Or at least claim to.

On 7/7/2020 at 5:57 PM, knapplc said:

 

You defend a racist.    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

I've defended Trump before, in the case of misplaced or incorrect or greatly overexaggerated accusations. I mean I don't see it as defending Trump as much as I see it as countering and opposing things that aren't true, but you'd probably treat them as the same thing.

You've gotten ever increasingly black and white in your thinking lately losing all nuance.

47 minutes ago, WyoHusker56 said:

I also think mid west people are adhering to things more than they'd admit while saying how they think it's dumb. Same thing in Montana and Wyoming from what I see. 

There's absolutely a shame/guilt/pride factor unique in the midwest that helps with people following along so as not to look bad. 

But yeah, there's a hell of a lot of space and not that many people.

16 hours ago, commando said:

 

This is just what happens when.... :checks notes: ah yes, the Republicans let Democrats play for a little while and then they come in and clean up the mess.

12 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

Why do republicans love such a lying piece of s#!t?

 

 

https://trumpgolfcount.com/

5 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

I'm waiting on one self-described socialist who can state the difference.  

I'm waiting on one conservative who can state the difference between socialism and democratic socialism. 

you guys will honestly not believe this but 

did you know in other countries most of the police aren't armed and it's totally fine? and way less people die at the hands of police? 

oh and also even more unrealistic other countries with less guns have way less gun deaths, even when controlled for population! no it's really actually true there's statistics and everything

42 minutes ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

Without recruiting 8 to 10 such players per year, Nebraska has little chance to win the B1G. 

Let's start with our first winning season in 4 years, and then we can move on to beating Iowa and/or Wisconsin for the first time in 5+ years, and then we can see how our recruiting is going and then think about maybe winning the B1G