Saunders

You're right. I'm obviously in the wrong here. Someone copying and pasting an entire article from a site verbatim is exactly the same as someone summarizing a story when telling another person. If someone asked me what Star Wars was about, telling them "it's about good vs evil in space" is identical to downloading bootlegged copies from the internet and burning copies for them. Exactly the same. i've been watching this debate, and it does seem trivial, bu ti think he was saying that it is more like if you get the paper delivered to your home, and you take that newspaper to work and a co-worker grabs it off of your desk and reads it, would you stop him/her and make him/her go out and buy his/her own to read? I understand what you are saying. But I also think that it's unfair to site creators/writers to not receive compensation for their work. I have dealt with these issues with my job numerous time, and having someone basically lift your work, without compensation is not cool at all. I find it extremely hypocritical for someone to say "I can't be bothered to click this link" due to convenience or whatever, when the article is over 3500 words...

You're right. I'm obviously in the wrong here. Someone copying and pasting an entire article from a site verbatim is exactly the same as someone summarizing a story when telling another person. If someone asked me what Star Wars was about, telling them "it's about good vs evil in space" is identical to downloading bootlegged copies from the internet and burning copies for them. Exactly the same.

Hey thanks for your input saunders45. Next time I'll post a paragraph and link it since you're intimidated by long articles. I'll see if I can find some pictures to go with it too just to make it easy on you. I'll ignore the childish insult (hurrrrr durrrr, yurrrr dumbbbb), and spell it out for you. It's not about the article "length" at all. But copy/pasting a whole article removes the need to visit the site, denying them of page hits and ad revenue. But from a convenience standpoint, I would personally much rather have the entire article posted than only a paragraph and then a link. It is, however, a copyright violation to post the whole article. Not that anyone would likely ever get in trouble over this one... Nevertheless, I vote for letting the people who did the work to write the article get the page hit. Plus, when they get big page hit numbers for Nebraska articles, all the more reason for them to cover the Huskers more... /End hijack Bingo.

Hopefully it's a noon, or 1PM kickoff...

Hey thanks for your input saunders45. Next time I'll post a paragraph and link it since you're intimidated by long articles. I'll see if I can find some pictures to go with it too just to make it easy on you. I'll ignore the childish insult (hurrrrr durrrr, yurrrr dumbbbb), and spell it out for you. It's not about the article "length" at all. But copy/pasting a whole article removes the need to visit the site, denying them of page hits and ad revenue. But from a convenience standpoint, I would personally much rather have the entire article posted than only a paragraph and then a link. So..... basically you don't care about the site then? Someone takes the time to research and write an article, and you can't be bothered to contribute to pageview/ad revenue because you can't be bothered to click a link? Isn't that basically stealing?

Hey thanks for your input saunders45. Next time I'll post a paragraph and link it since you're intimidated by long articles. I'll see if I can find some pictures to go with it too just to make it easy on you. I'll ignore the childish insult (hurrrrr durrrr, yurrrr dumbbbb), and spell it out for you. It's not about the article "length" at all. But copy/pasting a whole article removes the need to visit the site, denying them of page hits and ad revenue.

:clap :clap We need a standing ovation emoticon. Well said, sir.

I believe he did when we needed an "immobile" QB. However, Martinez took the snaps for any QB that could run. You are extremely wrong on Martinez. Here's the OFFICIAL Nebraska release on recruits from 2009 that lists Martinez as an ATHLETE, and Green as a QB. http://www.huskers.c...&ATCLID=3660376 Martinez played QB a bit on the scout team, but Ron Kellogg played it the vast majority of the time. Martinez operated at WR the vast majority of the time last year. In fact Kellogg was even named scout team MVP for his efforts last year. http://www.huskers.c...&ATCLID=3662486 Martinez notes about last year 2009 (Redshirt) Martinez redshirted in his first season in the program and worked on the scout team. And Kellogg's 2009 (Redshirt) Kellogg quarterbacked the scout team, and earned Scout Team MVP honors. And last but not least here's the writeup on Martinez from when he signed saying he could play on either side of the ball. Taylor Martinez ATH, 6-1, 185, Corona, Calif. (Centennial HS) Taylor Martinez is a talented all-around athlete who has the ability to play on either side of the ball at Nebraska. One of six Californians in Nebraska's 2009 recruiting class, Martinez compiled huge numbers as a quarterback during his senior season. The 6-0, 175-pounder also has shown outstanding ability on defense and could be a factor in the Nebraska secondary in the future. Martinez was a dual threat quarterback for Coach Matt Logan at Corona's Centennial High School during his senior season. Martinez passed for better than 3,000 yards and threw 28 touchdowns, while completing about 61 percent of his attempts. On the ground, Martinez added 750 rushing yards and 12 touchdowns. His play helped Centennial to a perfect 15-0 season and a state championship, culminated by a victory over prep powerhouse De La Salle High, when Martinez threw for 243 yards. Centennial High finished No. 2 nationally in the USA Today's final high school rankings. Martinez was named the Big VIII League's Most Valuable Player and also earned the Los Angeles Times' Glen Davis Player-of-the-Year Award. The award is named in honor of the 1946 Heisman winner from Army. A first-team all-state selection, Martinez was also the Inland Division Offensive Player of the Year. Martinez spent only one season at Centennial High School. As a junior, he played quarterback at San Bernadino Cajon High and accounted for about 1,500 yards of total offense. Martinez spent his freshman and sophomore seasons at Norco High, where he earned the majority of his playing time in the secondary. Martinez is ranked among the top "athlete" prospects in the nation by Rivals.com, while Scout.com lists him among the top 50 quarterbacks in the nation. He is listed among the top 50 players in California by both Rivals.com and SuperPrep. Martinez committed to Nebraska last August and only visited the Huskers. He is the son of Casey Martinez and Eti Fania and was born on Sept. 15, 1990. Sigh, I guess I have to post this here too. "OMG.... how hard is this to comprehend. I know he was signed because he could play multiple positions. Where did I dispute that? HOWEVER, it was stated, MULTIPLE TIMES, that he was going to start at QB. If that failed, he could move to a different spot. That's all I'm saying." Also, I'm not "extremely wrong" at all. What I'm saying was repeated multiple times on Scout.com, both through official, and unofficial channels.

First, I agree that this rumor is bullcrap. Second, Martinez was certianly recruited as a QB first. The coaches knew he could play another position if it didn't work out at QB. Go back and read his recruiting articles. Specifically, the kid was recruited as an athlete. Even more specifically, he was recruited by the coaches with the idea of playing on defense. But, he said all along that if a chance at quarterback arose than he would want a fair shot. Uh, I follow recruiting quite a bit, especially since Bo took over. The problem is, Rivals is wrong, because they didn't report the whole story. The "athlete" part is what he was designated by the recruiting service. Green started out as an athlete as well. It was quite known that he was coming in as a QB first on Scout. So, yes, he had the option to play D if it didn't work out, but he certainly was being brought in as a QB first. He was brought in as an "athlete with the chance at QB." We gave him his chance like every school that does this does, and he surprized. We really didn't intend on keeping him at QB his whole career as he was working at WR in the bowl preperations. He is one of those kids that obviously does not take no for an answer. He was a definate third on our depth chart until he "missed" that practice. Ever since then he has been very impressive and has played very inspired football. Sorry, but that's not entirely true. Martinez worked as the Scout Team QB just like Lee, Ganz, and Keller. Again, he was brought in as a QB first, with the option to move if it didn't work out. I don't care who starts, but misinformation drives me crazy. Then I guess you are driving yourself crazy. You are extremely wrong on Martinez. Here's the OFFICIAL Nebraska release on recruits from 2009 that lists Martinez as an ATHLETE, and Green as a QB. http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=3660376 Martinez played QB a bit on the scout team, but Ron Kellogg played it the vast majority of the time. Martinez operated at WR the vast majority of the time last year. In fact Kellogg was even named scout team MVP for his efforts last year. http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=3662486 Martinez notes about last year 2009 (Redshirt) Martinez redshirted in his first season in the program and worked on the scout team. And Kellogg's 2009 (Redshirt) Kellogg quarterbacked the scout team, and earned Scout Team MVP honors. And last but not least here's the writeup on Martinez from when he signed saying he could play on either side of the ball. Taylor Martinez ATH, 6-1, 185, Corona, Calif. (Centennial HS) Taylor Martinez is a talented all-around athlete who has the ability to play on either side of the ball at Nebraska. One of six Californians in Nebraska's 2009 recruiting class, Martinez compiled huge numbers as a quarterback during his senior season. The 6-0, 175-pounder also has shown outstanding ability on defense and could be a factor in the Nebraska secondary in the future. Martinez was a dual threat quarterback for Coach Matt Logan at Corona's Centennial High School during his senior season. Martinez passed for better than 3,000 yards and threw 28 touchdowns, while completing about 61 percent of his attempts. On the ground, Martinez added 750 rushing yards and 12 touchdowns. His play helped Centennial to a perfect 15-0 season and a state championship, culminated by a victory over prep powerhouse De La Salle High, when Martinez threw for 243 yards. Centennial High finished No. 2 nationally in the USA Today's final high school rankings. Martinez was named the Big VIII League's Most Valuable Player and also earned the Los Angeles Times' Glen Davis Player-of-the-Year Award. The award is named in honor of the 1946 Heisman winner from Army. A first-team all-state selection, Martinez was also the Inland Division Offensive Player of the Year. Martinez spent only one season at Centennial High School. As a junior, he played quarterback at San Bernadino Cajon High and accounted for about 1,500 yards of total offense. Martinez spent his freshman and sophomore seasons at Norco High, where he earned the majority of his playing time in the secondary. Martinez is ranked among the top "athlete" prospects in the nation by Rivals.com, while Scout.com lists him among the top 50 quarterbacks in the nation. He is listed among the top 50 players in California by both Rivals.com and SuperPrep. Martinez committed to Nebraska last August and only visited the Huskers. He is the son of Casey Martinez and Eti Fania and was born on Sept. 15, 1990. OMG.... how hard is this to comprehend. I know he was signed because he could play multiple positions. Where did I dispute that? HOWEVER, it was stated, MULTIPLE TIMES, that he was going to start at QB. If that failed, he could move to a different spot. That's all I'm saying.

I believe he did when we needed an "immobile" QB. However, Martinez took the snaps for any QB that could run.

Please stop with this myth. It's entirely untrue. ??? It is entirely true. In fact even as of bowl practices last year Martinez was not working at QB. Had our QB depth not been what it was, his supposed "shot" would have been a token one. There was even some speculation that a school might throw an offer for QB at him late to try and steal him from us, but it never materialized. This. He was a distant 3rd going into fall camp. Since he "missed" that practice that friday he made a HUGE jump. He had a tremendous camp. Um, no. Not "this." Martinez was the scout Team QB last year, just like Zac Lee, Joe Ganz, and Sam Keller have all been. Um, yes. That. He was working at WR during the bowl preparations and that is a fact. The part that enhance said about a late offer from a school willing to make the committment to making him a quarterback could have stolen him away is true as well. Nobody is disputing that he was the scout team QB last year. Who else was going to run the scout team? Green and Lee both worked with the 1s. I never disputed him working out with the WR's. I disputed the fact that he wasn't brought in as a QB first. As for the Scout Team, Kellogg or Washington could have run it, easily.

First, I agree that this rumor is bullcrap. Second, Martinez was certianly recruited as a QB first. The coaches knew he could play another position if it didn't work out at QB. Go back and read his recruiting articles. Specifically, the kid was recruited as an athlete. Even more specifically, he was recruited by the coaches with the idea of playing on defense. But, he said all along that if a chance at quarterback arose than he would want a fair shot. Uh, I follow recruiting quite a bit, especially since Bo took over. The problem is, Rivals is wrong, because they didn't report the whole story. The "athlete" part is what he was designated by the recruiting service. Green started out as an athlete as well. It was quite known that he was coming in as a QB first on Scout. So, yes, he had the option to play D if it didn't work out, but he certainly was being brought in as a QB first. He was brought in as an "athlete with the chance at QB." We gave him his chance like every school that does this does, and he surprized. We really didn't intend on keeping him at QB his whole career as he was working at WR in the bowl preperations. He is one of those kids that obviously does not take no for an answer. He was a definate third on our depth chart until he "missed" that practice. Ever since then he has been very impressive and has played very inspired football. Sorry, but that's not entirely true. Martinez worked as the Scout Team QB just like Lee, Ganz, and Keller. Again, he was brought in as a QB first, with the option to move if it didn't work out. I don't care who starts, but misinformation drives me crazy. You dishing out the misinformation drives me crazy. He was brought in as an athlete with a chance at QB, go back and read this thread. Cody Green was PROMISED that he would be the only QB brought in during the 2009 cycle. I did, and all I saw were posts from RIVALS. It helps to gather info from multiple sources before asserting something as fact. Believe it or not, they aren't the only site out there...

First, I agree that this rumor is bullcrap. Second, Martinez was certianly recruited as a QB first. The coaches knew he could play another position if it didn't work out at QB. Go back and read his recruiting articles. Specifically, the kid was recruited as an athlete. Even more specifically, he was recruited by the coaches with the idea of playing on defense. But, he said all along that if a chance at quarterback arose than he would want a fair shot. Uh, I follow recruiting quite a bit, especially since Bo took over. The problem is, Rivals is wrong, because they didn't report the whole story. The "athlete" part is what he was designated by the recruiting service. Green started out as an athlete as well. It was quite known that he was coming in as a QB first on Scout. So, yes, he had the option to play D if it didn't work out, but he certainly was being brought in as a QB first. He was brought in as an "athlete with the chance at QB." We gave him his chance like every school that does this does, and he surprized. We really didn't intend on keeping him at QB his whole career as he was working at WR in the bowl preperations. He is one of those kids that obviously does not take no for an answer. He was a definate third on our depth chart until he "missed" that practice. Ever since then he has been very impressive and has played very inspired football. Sorry, but that's not entirely true. Martinez worked as the Scout Team QB just like Lee, Ganz, and Keller. Again, he was brought in as a QB first, with the option to move if it didn't work out. I don't care who starts, but misinformation drives me crazy.

Please stop with this myth. It's entirely untrue. ??? It is entirely true. In fact even as of bowl practices last year Martinez was not working at QB. Had our QB depth not been what it was, his supposed "shot" would have been a token one. There was even some speculation that a school might throw an offer for QB at him late to try and steal him from us, but it never materialized. This. He was a distant 3rd going into fall camp. Since he "missed" that practice that friday he made a HUGE jump. He had a tremendous camp. Um, no. Not "this." Martinez was the scout Team QB last year, just like Zac Lee, Joe Ganz, and Sam Keller have all been.

Seriously. Throw different false rumors to different sources, and see what comes out to identify a leak.

Why not just post a paragraph, and link to the article instead of copying the whole thing?

First, I agree that this rumor is bullcrap. Second, Martinez was certianly recruited as a QB first. The coaches knew he could play another position if it didn't work out at QB. Go back and read his recruiting articles. Specifically, the kid was recruited as an athlete. Even more specifically, he was recruited by the coaches with the idea of playing on defense. But, he said all along that if a chance at quarterback arose than he would want a fair shot. Uh, I follow recruiting quite a bit, especially since Bo took over. The problem is, Rivals is wrong, because they didn't report the whole story. The "athlete" part is what he was designated by the recruiting service. Green started out as an athlete as well. It was quite known that he was coming in as a QB first on Scout. So, yes, he had the option to play D if it didn't work out, but he certainly was being brought in as a QB first.

It's like he was trying to be funny and serious at the same time, and it came across as retarded.

Direct quote from Taylor Martinez per rivals. LINK Another quote from Martinez. LINK As you can see, we are both right. Originally, he was recruited as a DB. Switched to QB before joining the team. And I specifically know of conversations on the Scout RZ board about him being talked about as QB FIRST. DB was the backup plan. He may have been labeled as an "athlete" but that's because he COULD play multiple positions.

Please stop with this myth. It's entirely untrue.

http://www.omaha.com/article/20100827/BIGRED/708279855#best-guess-2-30-kickoff-for-texas-nu Ummmmmm......... So this game is gonna go against Michigan/Iowa and be a regional telecast game!!!!???!!!? Nice way to go Big 12. Also on the Big 12 TV schedule it says the ESPN windows are flexible and can be moved. Im not saying Lee is wrong or I am right, but this doesnt sound right at all. college football tv schedule big 12 tv windows This. "Sources suggest that a 2:30 pm kickoff time is the most likely scenario for the Nebraska/Texas football game, according to Lee Barfknecht of the Omaha World-Herald. But while I don't completely dismiss a 2:30 pm kickoff, I tend to lean against it, unless Nebraska loses to Washington or Kansas State. Barfknecht's sources admit that ABC hasn't given any indication that they will be opening an 11 am kickoff window for October 16th, but you can read that both ways. ABC is leaving their options open, and likely won't make any decision until October...maybe not even until the Kansas State game. ..." http://huskermike.blogspot.com/2010/08/lee-barfknecht-says-nuut-at-230-pm-i.html

First, I agree that this rumor is bullcrap. Second, Martinez was certianly recruited as a QB first. The coaches knew he could play another position if it didn't work out at QB.

Bingo. There is no depth chart, especially at the QB position, and any individual who says that they have "inside info" on a depth chart is blatantly lying. It's all speculation.

Big deal. Antono Bell played as a True frosh. His stats? 1 catch for 3 yards. Our WR coaching needs improved.

He played until the 2nd quarter when Lee came in and threw the TD pass. I believe we had -3 yards at the end of the first quarter.