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You're on dangerous ground here. Facts or there will be consequences for this implication.

No, absolutely not. I'm simply stating dry facts. I've stated them several times, but you either aren't reading those posts or you're ignoring them. Joe's indefensible actions (or lack thereof): Doing the BARE MINIMUM he was required by law to do when reporting to his supervisor that "something" happened. We don't even need to define that "something" because the very fact he reported it up the chain of command means it was egregious enough to do so. After this report, JoePa did NOTHING. No follow-up, no investigation, no call to Child Protective Services, nothing. JoePa continued to allow a man who had been reported for doing "something" access to his campus, facilities and team, without supervision. Those things alone are enough to warrant his immediate termination.

At least, that's what you've been told. By an organization that has a vested interest in your continued belief in their authority.

Where is the hypocrisy? Who here is saying they're fine with those things? We don't know what JoePa knows or didn't know. However, it seems many are more than willing to throw him under the bus. We do know to some degree what some past and present coaches at NU knew, and it seems we're completely fine with it. Gun <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Rape of Children Perspective. Get some.

I don't know about that. Employs Mark May: ESPN = Yes BTN = No Advantage = BTN Employs Lou Holtz: ESPN = Yes BTN = No Advantage = BTN Employs Erin Andrews: ESPN = Yes BTN = No Advantage = ESPN In two of the three most important categories in fan enjoyment of college football (not directly related to the game), BTN wins.

I think we're just going to close up shop here. Nobody seems interested, anyway.

It's being discussed in several threads.

It's not me that is disallowing it (although I agree wholeheartedly with the policy), I'm just the instrument of that policy. I would be happy to take responsibility for that decision - I just didn't happen to make it. All I'm doing is enforcing it. I know it seems sick that people are making jokes about this, but that's one way that society deals with tragedy. You hear jokes about plane crashes, 9/11, murders, etc. There were jokes about Michael Jackson's abuses, there were jokes about Rodney King, there were jokes about OJ and the murders. At some point it's just overwhelming to people that stuff this heinous happens, and joking about it - wrong though it may seem - is one way of dealing with it. Not saying that's right or wrong, just that it's an identified coping measure in psychology.

Or said something to The Second Mile, or said something to campus police, or said something to the actual police, or made an anonymous phone call to Social Services, or banned Sandusky from campus/contact with the team/the facilities/etc. Joe had opportunity after opportunity after opportunity after opportunity to do something about this. Instead he had one short conversation with his superior, and never touched the subject again until the Grand Jury brought him in to testify. He is the Big Cheese on that campus. But he failed in his role, utterly and miserably. And children suffered because he did "the bare minimum."

To be fair, we did have a tremendously pitiful defensive performance Saturday.

It doesn't matter where you saw it or that you're just "passing it along," we are not allowing jokes about this situation right now. Thanks for your understanding, everyone.

We are going around in circles. To me it seems perfectly obvious that a loving, Omnipotent God has zero reason to ever create a place that is anathema to Him, then place "his children" whom he dearly loves in that place, with the hope that they believe enough to earn their way back to a place they should have been from the very beginning. We can quibble about the details of this or that part of the story, but bottom line, no sane, loving, logical parent would ever do what God has done. The story falls apart for me there.

The people defending JoePa in this situation remind me of Milgram's experiments in obedience. It's as if Paterno can't be wrong, because he's been an authority figure for so long.

You better be.

I think the very fact that the Tree was named "The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil" means they didn't know what they were getting themselves into prior to eating it. How could they, if they didn't truly understand Wrong? But that is entirely beside the point. A loving parent doesn't put a child in a room with a loaded bear trap. The loaded bear trap never, ever, ever gets in the room. What the heck was it doing there?

Most likely completely unrelated. This guy's brother committed suicide in 1996 under very similar circumstances.

Heaven? Just...just guessing. I don't think that's right. I don't think that's possible. If it were, why wouldn't an Omnipotent God have just put the sons and daughters he loves there in the first place? Sorry, pal, I'm not upper management. I'm not even middle management. Hell, I don't even work for the company. I keep calling the hotline trying to get an answer to this question, but I've been on hold for a while. Maybe someone will help me at some point. I appreciate the effort at customer service, even if you do work for another company.

I don't have a problem with McQueary up to the point where he figured out nothing was going to happen with Sandusky. I would much preferred that he go in that shower and beat the hell out of Sandusky and save the kid, but I understand his reaction. It was human to be terrified of what he had witnessed. I see freaking out, reporting it, and hanging out for a while waiting to see what those in authority did. However, that's where my understanding of his actions ends. From that point he HAS TO do something when he sees Sandusky on campus. HAS TO. That's where he failed, IMO. Sorry we will have to agree to disagree on this, it was a cowardly act to leave that boy with a rapist and not try to help him. I didn't say it wasn't a cowardly act. I said I could understand how he freaked out and reacted the way he did. That is NOT condoning his behavior.

That bold sentence right there is why JoePa SHOULD be thrown under the bus. He knew that a witness told him that he had seen "something of a sexual nature" between a grown man and a boy. JoePa knew enough of the "elaborate details" to report what he saw to his superior. Do you truly believe that Paterno did not hear the word "sex" in that conversation? That is the entirety of what McQueary came to talk to him about - seeing Sandusky raping a child. Paterno is on the hook, as we speak, for Failure to Report and for Obstruction of Justice. It is unclear whether he is guilty of either or both, but what is absolutely clear is that he did not do everything in his power to assure that children were safe. That is completely inarguable. I don't see how you can defend that.

I don't have a problem with McQueary up to the point where he figured out nothing was going to happen with Sandusky. I would much preferred that he go in that shower and beat the hell out of Sandusky and save the kid, but I understand his reaction. It was human to be terrified of what he had witnessed. I see freaking out, reporting it, and hanging out for a while waiting to see what those in authority did. However, that's where my understanding of his actions ends. From that point he HAS TO do something when he sees Sandusky on campus. HAS TO. That's where he failed, IMO.

Just because he knows doesn't mean they didn't have a choice. no one forced them to eat it did they? Actually, nobody forced God to put that tree there in the first place. What was the point of it even being there? And, for that matter, why were Adam & Eve ever put in Earth in the first place? If God loves them and wants them to live with him in Heaven for eternity, why put them anywhere BUT Heaven?

I said the exact same thing a while back, buried in some other thread. It is inconceivable that you could have witnessed that, then NOT do/say anything over the next several years when you see this guy around campus, with young boys in tow.

Heaven? Just...just guessing. I don't think that's right. I don't think that's possible. If it were, why wouldn't an Omnipotent God have just put the sons and daughters he loves there in the first place?

The day I care about ESPN's opinion of something like the Blackshirts tradition is the day I give up my Husker fandom. Screw ESPN.