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This made me giggle, how is prince more polished when peterson has been playing the cb position longer? Remember prince was CONVERTED to corner while cb is Peterson's NATURAL position. More polished means more experience and understands the position better, obviously peterson woul get the nod in that aspect. Peterson is faster than amukamara and its not even close. Have you even watched Peterson play at all? Peterson is a better coverage corner than prince and can be play better jam coverage. Just curious, how often have you watched Peterson play and tell me how his technique isnt as good a prince's? Also, Prince might be playing safety in the NFL considering scouts question his explosiveness, speed and ability to make plays on ball. But what do the nfl scouts know? Also, Peterson had made more plays on the ball than prince as well. Thread. Over. Watched Peterson plenty this year and he was thrown at a hell of a lot more than Prince. Peterson gave up more catches, more yards, and more TD's than Prince. Fact. He also had more picks too. He is a big time playmaker with tons of athletic skill, but his freakish athletic skills allow him to compensate for his sloppy technique and recover and make plays. Like I said in my first post, Prince is more polished, Peterson has more athletic ability. Like I said again, Prince is the better technician at corner, Peterson is the better athlete. Teams don't draft the best player now, they draft the best potential, which is why Peterson grades out higher. I have seen this from many draft experts and scouts. I would rather have a known commodity than a wildcard athlete. Vernon Gholston anyone? Seriously, this board has resorted to +1'ing this crap? Now THAT makes me giggle. http://thenationalfootballreport.com/2011/02/14/2011-nfl-draft-profile-patrick-peterson/ http://www.ninersnation.com/2011/1/19/1945174/2011-nfl-draft-56-underclassmen-declare-as-early-entrants http://www.saintsreport.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3692641 http://cdsdraft.com/profile.php?id=5041 /le sigh..Ok, here we go. Please link me those stats. I find it funny you somehow know the stats to an IMMESSURABLE stat. For instance, how can you say it was peterson's fault if they were playin zone coverage and Julio Jones (or whoever the other number one wr on the other team)caught a ball in another person's zone? So, please link me the stats to the bolded part in your post. please give me a link to where it says how many catches, touchdownds, yards that SPECIFICALLY Peterson and Prince gave up. Also, i spefically asked how Prines technique was better then Peterson's? I aso laugh that you ignore my link, which said Amukamara has sloppy technique yet you give other links saying Peterson's technique is sloppy. Also, your links are one person's opinion who IS NOT an nfl scout. Yes, because bloggers more knowledgeable than NFL scouts, yet they somehow ditched the nfl scouting gig to write blogs? Has fantastic hips and shows the ability to run with elite competition. Also, your links have stated peterson is BETTER man to man corner, and in the nfl you NEED to be a great man on man cb. So your links, in a way, prove my point. Your links, when you compare the two, have stated Peterson is a better man to man corner..so his technique must not be that bad if they would still prefer Peterson in man coverage. Also, your links still have Peterson listed has better CORNERBACK than Amukamara, which shows that the "technique" wouldnt make that much of a difference. Also, Peterson has played against better competition than Amukmara..did you see what prince did against Blackmon? In the nfl you have to be a decent jam cb, which is something Amukamara lacks. Also, Peterson doesnt get beat s much in man to man as amukamara sine peterson is better at staying in the hip pocket of the WR. Which NFL scouts have said Amukamara is a better cornerback than Peterson at this specific moment in time? Please link me to a scout that says "prince amukamara is a better cb than Peterson?" Most of the links you posted ARE NOT nfl scouts opinions, they are more like one person's opinion. I have yet to see a reference to an NFL scout in ANY of your links.. One last point i would like to make. If Prince has such a better technique then Peterson then WHY is peterson a better man to man cb? Technique is more important in man coverage than zone coverage. P.S., i find it funny that you are complaining about people +1 a post that disagrees with you, very mature mr. Mod. Also, I would like to hear how Prince's technique is better than Peterson's or are you going to ignore that question? Mayock and Kiper echo what I have stated thus far. You provided one link that proved your point, I provided 4 that prove my point. My PERSONAL opinion was that Prince was the better corner RIGHT NOW, because that is what this poll is reflecting. WHO IS THE BEST CORNER, RIGHT NOW. I have stated that Peterson has the better upside because of his freakish ability, but Prince is the best pure technician in the draft (something Kiper stated word for word). It's like arguing what you think is better, a Ferrarri or an Aston Martin. I think Prince is the best at this position at this point in time. Peterson is the better athlete and could be a shutdown NFL corner when he gets some more polish. I never once said that Prince is the better PROSPECT, I said he is the better CORNER RIGHT NOW. As far as Peterson's technique, from what I have seen is that he solely relies upon his athletic ability and playmaking ability and may not be as technically sound. Prince is a little more fluid but not as explosive. Most assessments I have read echo this sentiment as well. As far as the statistics of "thrown at, completed, yards, TDs" it was posted in one of the last games of the year, possibly the Holiday Bowl, comparing the 2 Corners. Prince was not challenged as much, gave up less catches, yards and TDs. I applaud someone who can locate this and post. Also, I did not complain about someone +1'ing that post, I said it made me giggle. You took my original post and made it into something that it wasn't and someone agreed with you. I thought it was humorous.

This made me giggle, how is prince more polished when peterson has been playing the cb position longer? Remember prince was CONVERTED to corner while cb is Peterson's NATURAL position. More polished means more experience and understands the position better, obviously peterson woul get the nod in that aspect. Peterson is faster than amukamara and its not even close. Have you even watched Peterson play at all? Peterson is a better coverage corner than prince and can be play better jam coverage. Just curious, how often have you watched Peterson play and tell me how his technique isnt as good a prince's? Also, Prince might be playing safety in the NFL considering scouts question his explosiveness, speed and ability to make plays on ball. But what do the nfl scouts know? Also, Peterson had made more plays on the ball than prince as well. Thread. Over. Watched Peterson plenty this year and he was thrown at a hell of a lot more than Prince. Peterson gave up more catches, more yards, and more TD's than Prince. Fact. He also had more picks too. He is a big time playmaker with tons of athletic skill, but his freakish athletic skills allow him to compensate for his sloppy technique and recover and make plays. Like I said in my first post, Prince is more polished, Peterson has more athletic ability. Like I said again, Prince is the better technician at corner, Peterson is the better athlete. Teams don't draft the best player now, they draft the best potential, which is why Peterson grades out higher. I have seen this from many draft experts and scouts. I would rather have a known commodity than a wildcard athlete. Vernon Gholston anyone? Seriously, this board has resorted to +1'ing this crap? Now THAT makes me giggle. Typed in Patrick Peterson + sloppy and didn't have much difficulty finding results in the google machine. http://thenationalfootballreport.com/2011/02/14/2011-nfl-draft-profile-patrick-peterson/ http://www.ninersnation.com/2011/1/19/1945174/2011-nfl-draft-56-underclassmen-declare-as-early-entrants http://www.saintsreport.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3692641 http://cdsdraft.com/profile.php?id=5041

Bias or not, Prince appears to be the more polished of the 2. The only concern the pro scouts have is recovery speed. This may be irrelevant based on what team drafts each guy, because teams that run Tampa 2 deep will have 2 deep safeties and allow for deep help. I think they will be pleasantly surprised by Prince's speed at the combine, though. Peterson is an athletic freak, but his technique is not as good as Prince's. From what I have read is that the Lions want him bad, but he won't be around after Dallas picks.

Great win tonight! Hopefully this can get the momentum going.

What I heard was that Shawn was torn between Zac and Cody. Approached Bo and asked for input, and Bo told him Taylor should start. Probably the beginning of the end of Watson here.

When is the begging of the year? Is that before or after the grovelling of the year? Or the panhandling of the year?

This will get some legs if shaggybevo runs with the story.

Yeah, dude can fly. Still a little raw, but could be a nifty player at WR given some time to develop.

According to Rivals Carnes actually had offers from Clemson, Georgia, West Virginia, South Florida, Cincinnati, and Louisville. Western Kentucky was his other choice because of early PT and the Head Coach. FWIW: Martinez had no other offers besides Nebraska according to Rivals. I seem to remember another Florida qb who wasn't highly recruited that came to NU and did alright. If you are referring to Tommie Frazier, than the insinuation that he wasn't highly recruited couldn't be further from the truth. Frazier wasn't highly recruited as a quarterback. This is what I meant. Many schools recruited him and most tried to blow smoke up his ass saying they would try him at QB but if it didn't work they might move him to wr or db. Nebraska was one of the few schools who said you will be a qb if you come here. Maybe the Florida schools, but he was highly sought after by Notre Dame, Clemson and many others as a QB. Getting Frazier was a big deal, I remember. http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=637710

According to Rivals Carnes actually had offers from Clemson, Georgia, West Virginia, South Florida, Cincinnati, and Louisville. Western Kentucky was his other choice because of early PT and the Head Coach. FWIW: Martinez had no other offers besides Nebraska according to Rivals. I seem to remember another Florida qb who wasn't highly recruited that came to NU and did alright. If you are referring to Tommie Frazier, than the insinuation that he wasn't highly recruited couldn't be further from the truth.

So who is better, Taylor, Green or 4 guys who have never taken a D-1 snap. 1 of which may never set foot on campus. Pretty obvious that when Taylor is healthy, his insane athletic ability sets him apart from Cody to be the best on the team. Was this poll worthy? That's what she said.

I agree with this. I think he will work his way onto the field as a WR/Wildcat QB (like Randall Cobb) with a package of plays. REALLY helps having him in for spring ball. I think he will play as a true frosh and have an impact. I would be surprised if Starling even comes to fall practice, and signs with an MLB team. I am not sure about Cody relocating, but you never know.

Nobody thinks Akita is lying. It's the redundancy of the threads, pure and simple. If I really had it in for the guy, I would have locked THIS THREAD, too. Instead, I cleaned up the misspellings in the headline and some of the more egregious spelling errors in the text for him. Not exactly the kind of thing a jerky Mod would do, huh? You big meanie!

x 1,000 Maybe I missed it but I didn't see anything on here about doing anything to Watso's family. Calm down, nobody is organizing a lench mob..................................................Yet! Yea, you missed something. Attacking the man's job performance is rite of fandome, purposefully researching the man's address is stalking. It's public record. Checking to see what his address is and seeing if that house is for sale is being nosey, not harassing or stalking. Lighten up Francis. I do research like this all day for my job. I don't consider myself a stalker. Also, his house isn't for sale.

CU, aTm and OSU all finished 6-6, technically not a winning record. CMU was 8-5.

The timing is awful, especially if Scott Frost is coming over. I have several Duck Fan buddies, and they're up in arms over the rumors in Eugene that Frosty is headed back to Lincoln. They are (justifiably so) upset that Frost had a hand in the recruiting of several players, only to bolt afterwards. They're upset that players may reconsider their choices to Oregon (which they can't after the LOI is signed, but whatever). Bottom line is, they're pissed we may come "steal" Frost from them. I really, really hope we were up-front with all of our recruits about what was going on. If not, it looks bad for us. WWWWWoooooowwww!!!! I have been out of the loop for a couple of days (cpu issues). I know this will come as a SHOCK to Jackson and his parents because I spoke to them yesterday during the Signing Ceremony. If Bo did not tell them Sanders may not be at NU, IMO that's not cool. They like Sanders. If it's for some type of legal infraction like the rumor that's going around.....The school has no choice. If in fact that is why Sanders possibly/is leaving. Isnt the speculation Sanders pulled a "Solich"? What is a Solich? Having somone slip a mickey into your beer? Perhaps he was referring to the alleged relationship with a co-ed.

Nebraska ties. Thats all you need to coach around here. If they went to school at UNL or were born in Nebraska, get them an application! By that logic, Pelini would have never come here in the first place... Note to self, never joke around on an internet message board. Must be serious 100% of time. Zero fun sir... Note to you, emoticons are available to express sarcasm and humor and to avoid confusion such as: Your daily Huskerboard.com PSA is now concluded, please resume topic.

This is a great point. I am not upset that Pelini isn't going after a name coach for a position coach. Like you said, 3 years ago no one knew Papuchis and Dobson, and they have done a fine job. Sometimes, to get a rising star, you need to stray away from a "name" coach, or a guy who works at a big name school. If Carl worked with him, he has to know that this guy is worth interviewing and could very possibly be exactly what they are looking for in a LB coach.

Nebraska ties. Thats all you need to coach around here. If they went to school at UNL or were born in Nebraska, get them an application! By that logic, Pelini would have never come here in the first place...

He has 2 sons on the team. I am sure this factors. Cotton was handpicked by Bo and he probably gets a pass for now.

Yep. Heard on the radio a mock MLB draft has him as the #1 overall pick.

Clemson and Auburn are really raking it in today. Whatever Auburn paid Cam Newton wasn't enough.

Any word on him and Carter? Are the Huskers still in it for these 2?

Bingo! And there is not a signing day press conference scheduled for tomorrow, so anything official that comes out tomorrow will be by press release. And there is no guarantee that everything gets announced tomorrow either. They could wait until next Monday to officially announce anything. Ok so it's been said that two coaches are getting fired and you make it seem obvious. I can think of 3 coaches that IMO should probably be let go in Wats, Gilmore and Cotton. So with that said, are the two below 6'4 or is one of them above 6'4? If I were a betting man, I would bet that Barney would be the coach that would stay of the 3. He was handpicked by Bo and has 2 sons currently in the program. Gilmore has been maligned pretty much since the time he stepped on campus. Watson's son is done playing. They are both holdovers from the previous regime. This would be a good time to make a clean break.

That's top-notch. Anyways, the most plausible thing I have read in this thread relates to the timing. From what I understand, many assistant coaches go on a year by year contract and I recall that the contracts are usually signed/extended around this time. Osborne's track record for parting ways with assistants as opposed to firing makes this approach seem plausible. Also, I imagine that there would be some sort of buy out for firing coaches before their contracts expire, this would be a contributing factor as well. Sometimes the parting would not be amicable, but Osborne let the assistant leave with dignity intact. From what I understand, TO and Kiffin did not get along after TO was handpicked to success the Bobfather, and that was the reason Monte left. Devaney had 2 superstar assistants who were candidates to replace him, Osborne and Kiffin, and he chose Osborne as his replacement. Folks who were alive during this period, please correct me if I am wrong. Should be interesting in the next couple weeks. If there are going to be changes, I just hope the band aid is pulled off finally.