ColoradoHusk

I think you are gonna be disappointed then. I see this being a 38-20 or 41-24 type game.

Was it -1 last week? I can't remember Yes. One fumble and one pick to their one pick Although, I didn't think the INT hurt that much. It was 3rd and long and TA was throwing it deep, trying to make a play. NU was down to the backup punter at the time, so it was pretty much like a punt anyway. I wasn't suggesting that Armstrong's INT hurt the team. But some game it will so I just want to see us in the positive. I agree. Some turnovers hurt (like the fumble at our own 20), some turnovers are inconsequential. I do agree that on an overall/general basis, the team that loses the turnover battle (especially when it's -2 turnovers) loses the game.

I would want to know why we didn't win by twelvetybillion points.

So coming back after being down 10 at half time and being in position to the win the game with a team in their first year of a new offensive scheme and new defensive scheme against some decent competition that also is playing well is meaningless? (I'd really like to hear an answer on this, because that was my biggest take away from the game, I refuse to lump this loss in with 2012 Big Ten championship game, and 2006 Texas, as well as all of those other ones) I didn't say the come back was meaningless. But, Bo's teams also had some decent comebacks in his tenure. Let's not like every time NU got behind under Bo, they folded up the tents. Also, BYU was a couple plays from being ahead by 3 TD's. They missed plays that NU had no bearing on. Where my biggest concern came in, was even after the comeback (which did impress me), was the way the 4th quarter unfolded. When I was watching the 4th quarter, I thought "Oh crap, Riley is going to go all NFL on us". I do give Langsdorf/Riley credit for coming up with that nice pass play call to Brandon Reilly that took NU down to the BYU 30. That big gain should have sewn up the game. But, the clock was mismanaged when the ball was snapped with a number of seconds left on the clock, the 3rd down fly-sweep to the short side was a terrible play call, and Riley should have wound the play clock down to zero and called a timeout before Brown attempted the FG (please don't tell me he would have been icing his own kicker). All of that stuff happened to create a situation that left the door open for BYU. So your concern is with game management. Which is understandable. I was actually impressed by the fact that we still had timeouts left. But why not start a thread regarding game management? Which, I think is better than starting one that generally lumps this loss with all the other ones? Game management was just one reason that NU lost. Here are the negatives that I saw from the game: poor O-line play, poor running game (other than jet sweeps), too many penalties, terrible D in the first half (although adjustments were made in the 2nd half), poor game management (from a VETERAN coaching staff), no pass rush generated. You missed two missed kicks, too. I wasn't down on Brown as much as others. Yes, I would have liked the FG's to be made, but it's not something the coaches can "control". Either the kicker makes it or misses it. Although, the coaches did talk about Brown struggling from the right hash-mark. Then on the last 3rd down play, the coaches called a play to the right side on 3rd down, so that Brown was forced to kick from the right hash on 4th down.

I see people talk about the 60% passing completion rate all the time. That % rate is very dependent on the passes being called. If TA is regularly throwing the ball 15+ yards, a 60% completion % would be very hard to achieve. If he is making a lot of short throws and dump-offs, then I would agree with the passing %. I think in the 2nd quarter, what led to a lower passing % was that TA was being forced to throw further downfield. Yes, he was missing "open" guys, but it's harder to complete those passes of 15+ yards. That's why defenses will take away the short passes and force QB's to throw deeper. It's a lower % pass.

So coming back after being down 10 at half time and being in position to the win the game with a team in their first year of a new offensive scheme and new defensive scheme against some decent competition that also is playing well is meaningless? (I'd really like to hear an answer on this, because that was my biggest take away from the game, I refuse to lump this loss in with 2012 Big Ten championship game, and 2006 Texas, as well as all of those other ones) I didn't say the come back was meaningless. But, Bo's teams also had some decent comebacks in his tenure. Let's not like every time NU got behind under Bo, they folded up the tents. Also, BYU was a couple plays from being ahead by 3 TD's. They missed plays that NU had no bearing on. Where my biggest concern came in, was even after the comeback (which did impress me), was the way the 4th quarter unfolded. When I was watching the 4th quarter, I thought "Oh crap, Riley is going to go all NFL on us". I do give Langsdorf/Riley credit for coming up with that nice pass play call to Brandon Reilly that took NU down to the BYU 30. That big gain should have sewn up the game. But, the clock was mismanaged when the ball was snapped with a number of seconds left on the clock, the 3rd down fly-sweep to the short side was a terrible play call, and Riley should have wound the play clock down to zero and called a timeout before Brown attempted the FG (please don't tell me he would have been icing his own kicker). All of that stuff happened to create a situation that left the door open for BYU. So your concern is with game management. Which is understandable. I was actually impressed by the fact that we still had timeouts left. But why not start a thread regarding game management? Which, I think is better than starting one that generally lumps this loss with all the other ones? Game management was just one reason that NU lost. Here are the negatives that I saw from the game: poor O-line play, poor running game (other than jet sweeps), too many penalties, terrible D in the first half (although adjustments were made in the 2nd half), poor game management (from a VETERAN coaching staff), no pass rush generated.

I want fewer penalties, especially on offense.

Was it -1 last week? I can't remember Yes. One fumble and one pick to their one pick Although, I didn't think the INT hurt that much. It was 3rd and long and TA was throwing it deep, trying to make a play. NU was down to the backup punter at the time, so it was pretty much like a punt anyway.

You mean you have sex with women? Can you tell me what that is like?

So coming back after being down 10 at half time and being in position to the win the game with a team in their first year of a new offensive scheme and new defensive scheme against some decent competition that also is playing well is meaningless? (I'd really like to hear an answer on this, because that was my biggest take away from the game, I refuse to lump this loss in with 2012 Big Ten championship game, and 2006 Texas, as well as all of those other ones) I didn't say the come back was meaningless. But, Bo's teams also had some decent comebacks in his tenure. Let's not like every time NU got behind under Bo, they folded up the tents. Also, BYU was a couple plays from being ahead by 3 TD's. They missed plays that NU had no bearing on. Where my biggest concern came in, was even after the comeback (which did impress me), was the way the 4th quarter unfolded. When I was watching the 4th quarter, I thought "Oh crap, Riley is going to go all NFL on us". I do give Langsdorf/Riley credit for coming up with that nice pass play call to Brandon Reilly that took NU down to the BYU 30. That big gain should have sewn up the game. But, the clock was mismanaged when the ball was snapped with a number of seconds left on the clock, the 3rd down fly-sweep to the short side was a terrible play call, and Riley should have wound the play clock down to zero and called a timeout before Brown attempted the FG (please don't tell me he would have been icing his own kicker). All of that stuff happened to create a situation that left the door open for BYU.

I agree that those statements are probably unfair, and one game is way too early to make a decision on Riley. However, the small things that led to NU's loss are very concerning. Is that a one game blip, or is it something we will continue to see? Your just completely overacting. I would give MR at least half of the season before I get super concerned. The big problem is that you have no respect for BYU as a football team. I knew they would be a decent team that played hard physical football. They were actually better than I thought they would be. Lets see how they look over their next three games. They play BSU, Michigan and UCLA on consecutive weekends. After those games they may not be challenged the rest of the year. If NU loses on a Hail Mary to ASU or Arkansas or S. Carolina you wouldn't be nearly as concerned because you have more respect for those teams. How do you know I don't have any respect for BYU? I know exactly who they are and who they were before the game. I knew it would be a tough game and it would probably go down to the wire. But, in a big game as Riley's first game as head coach, NU didn't play all that well. Even despite not playing all that well, NU was in position to win, and poor game management/poor coaching left the door open for a loss. ...and why did you think this? What you predicted happened and you are still complaining... Sometimes when other teams play well, they can make the other team look bad. Yes, BYU played well, especially on offense. But, even with NU not playing all that well, NU was in position to win the game. There was very bad clock management at the end of the game, and that's on the coaches. Then, on the biggest play of the game, it seems like everyone on the defense didn't do their job.

This, I would agree with. It's been a maddening decade or two. This makes a lot of sense. It is not that NU is terrible, because they are not, they have not reached that pinnacle even once since 2001. And they've had chances to climb the ladder, but it's like ColoradoHusk said - one step up, one step back (paraphrasing). We've been languishing in this tire-spinning phase for a long time. That's probably why so many people took the Hail Mary loss to BYU so hard. There were a lot of positives in that game, but with yet another loss, it's easy to see why those thoughts of "we're going nowhere" come in. Just gotta fight those things. Especially with a regime change. Patience isn't easy, but it's all we've got right now. That sums up my feelings very well. It only took 1 game under Riley for NU to experience a loss that has happened for the past 10-15 (almost 20) years. That's what is concerning, and that is really the biggest thing that Riley has to change.

Osborne won plenty of "big games" along the way too. I didn't go to include the Solich years, but the Callahan years are shown too. Considering he didn't win a championship for 22 years, i would say at least one time every year before 1994, he came up short in a big situation. Yes, but my list showed "multiple" games in numerous situations throughout the year. It wasn't done to show every time NU has come up short in big situations. I lived through the Osborne losses in the 80s and early 90s, but TO had plenty of big wins to go along with those big losses. Recently, the big wins really haven't been there. Well, just looking at my college years: 85 = 1-3 against ranked teams. 86 = 2-1 against ranked teams and also lost to unranked CU 87 = 3-2 against ranked teams 89 = 0-2 against ranked teams 90 = 0-3 against ranked teams Between 1980 and 1994, Nebraska was 4-10 in bowl games. Yes, TO went through a period where he struggled in big situations. Don't forget that before 1994 that 4-10 bowl game record included losing 7 straightI'm not forgetting those. But, the TO years were still a LOT better than the past 10+ years. TO's teams were at least competitive in many of those games. Yes, he came up short a number of times, but he also produced big wins in that time period. As a whole they were. I you put all 25 years of TO together, of course they were better than the last 10 years. However, take the years I have pointed out and I would claim that those weren't much better if any. They were better in the perspective that TO wasn't giving up 50-70 points in his losses and not getting blown out of the stadium. He lost, but they were "closer' games. Oh...I agree. However, think back to some of those bowl games against Miami, FSU...etc. where we basically got blown out and weren't really in the game. 1986 LSU = lost 30-15. 1988 Miami = lost 23-3 1989 FSU = lost 41-17 1990 GT = lost 45-21 1991 Miami - lost 22-0 These were games we never were in and basically got blown out. Did those teams score 50-70 points? No. But, a couple were close. NU beat LSU in the 1986 Sugar Bowl. I hear what you are saying. There were a number of years where TO's teams were not competing against top teams in the country. Look at the teams that NU were losing to? They were teams consistently in the National Championship conversation. The reason for my post was that NU can't carry forward positive momentum or even build positive momentum. It's always 2 steps forward and 1 step back (or even worse).

Osborne won plenty of "big games" along the way too. I didn't go to include the Solich years, but the Callahan years are shown too. Considering he didn't win a championship for 22 years, i would say at least one time every year before 1994, he came up short in a big situation. Yes, but my list showed "multiple" games in numerous situations throughout the year. It wasn't done to show every time NU has come up short in big situations. I lived through the Osborne losses in the 80s and early 90s, but TO had plenty of big wins to go along with those big losses. Recently, the big wins really haven't been there. Well, just looking at my college years: 85 = 1-3 against ranked teams. 86 = 2-1 against ranked teams and also lost to unranked CU 87 = 3-2 against ranked teams 89 = 0-2 against ranked teams 90 = 0-3 against ranked teams Between 1980 and 1994, Nebraska was 4-10 in bowl games. Yes, TO went through a period where he struggled in big situations. Don't forget that before 1994 that 4-10 bowl game record included losing 7 straightI'm not forgetting those. But, the TO years were still a LOT better than the past 10+ years. TO's teams were at least competitive in many of those games. Yes, he came up short a number of times, but he also produced big wins in that time period.

Severe tweeted after the botched zone read resulted in the fumble that in the practices he saw, the spacing of the QB and RB looked off on zone reads. That is very troubling, if Riley wants to use some zone read. If Riley doesn't know how to coach the zone read, how is he going to have confidence in calling it/running it.

Just watch ESPN film room break it down. Basically every one of our guys did the wrong thing. I puked a little. So that's not a good thing when the whole team screws up on the biggest play of the game?

Osborne won plenty of "big games" along the way too. I didn't go to include the Solich years, but the Callahan years are shown too. Considering he didn't win a championship for 22 years, i would say at least one time every year before 1994, he came up short in a big situation. Yes, but my list showed "multiple" games in numerous situations throughout the year. It wasn't done to show every time NU has come up short in big situations. I lived through the Osborne losses in the 80s and early 90s, but TO had plenty of big wins to go along with those big losses. Recently, the big wins really haven't been there. Well, just looking at my college years: 85 = 1-3 against ranked teams. 86 = 2-1 against ranked teams and also lost to unranked CU 87 = 3-2 against ranked teams 89 = 0-2 against ranked teams 90 = 0-3 against ranked teams Between 1980 and 1994, Nebraska was 4-10 in bowl games. Yes, TO went through a period where he struggled in big situations. Expanding that list a little further 1980 = 3-2 vs. top 20 teams 1981 = 2-2 vs. top 20 teams with a loss to un-ranked Iowa 1982 = 3-1 vs. top 20 teams (the one loss was controversial at Penn State) 1983 = 1-1 vs. top 20 teams 1984 = 3-1 vs. top 20 teams with a loss to un-ranked Syracuse

Here is a link to the podcast that I am referencing. http://www.omaha.com/huskers/blogs/the-pick-six-podcast-with-jon-nyatawa-and-sam-mckewon/article_f2b50d52-5679-11e5-a155-cb7eadea0767.html It's also available on Itunes for Apple devices and I am sure whatever Android uses.

I agree that those statements are probably unfair, and one game is way too early to make a decision on Riley. However, the small things that led to NU's loss are very concerning. Is that a one game blip, or is it something we will continue to see? Your just completely overacting. I would give MR at least half of the season before I get super concerned. The big problem is that you have no respect for BYU as a football team. I knew they would be a decent team that played hard physical football. They were actually better than I thought they would be. Lets see how they look over their next three games. They play BSU, Michigan and UCLA on consecutive weekends. After those games they may not be challenged the rest of the year. If NU loses on a Hail Mary to ASU or Arkansas or S. Carolina you wouldn't be nearly as concerned because you have more respect for those teams. How do you know I don't have any respect for BYU? I know exactly who they are and who they were before the game. I knew it would be a tough game and it would probably go down to the wire. But, in a big game as Riley's first game as head coach, NU didn't play all that well. Even despite not playing all that well, NU was in position to win, and poor game management/poor coaching left the door open for a loss.

We kicked 4 FG's against Texas. How is that playing very well? And also, How do you compare a coaches first game against a coaches 25th? Considering the competition, I think NU played very well in the '09 Texas game. Yes, 4 FG's are disappointing, but the defense was dominating and the special teams were very good (up until Kunalic's final kickoff).

I think one general theme of all these losses is that NU didn't play all that well in most of these losses. It's one thing to play very well and lose (2009 Texas), it's another thing to play bad to even terrible. In the BYU game, NU played pretty bad in defense and special teams, and just "ok" to me on offense.

Osborne won plenty of "big games" along the way too. I didn't go to include the Solich years, but the Callahan years are shown too. Considering he didn't win a championship for 22 years, i would say at least one time every year before 1994, he came up short in a big situation. Yes, but my list showed "multiple" games in numerous situations throughout the year. It wasn't done to show every time NU has come up short in big situations. I lived through the Osborne losses in the 80s and early 90s, but TO had plenty of big wins to go along with those big losses. Recently, the big wins really haven't been there.

I agree that those statements are probably unfair, and one game is way too early to make a decision on Riley. However, the small things that led to NU's loss are very concerning. Is that a one game blip, or is it something we will continue to see?

But when do we find the right coach to find our mojo? Good Lord....give a guy a more of a chance than one game. I will give him time. However, this first game puts plenty of doubt in my head. It shouldn't. You've chosen to look at all the negatives. There were lots of really good things. To me, that first game left me with more questions than answers.

Osborne won plenty of "big games" along the way too. I didn't go to include the Solich years, but the Callahan years are shown too.