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Yes, I suppose that matters, but what I think is even more telling is the their offer list. Take a look at Wilkerson's impressive offer list then take a look at Ben's, Jake's and Sam's. The fact is that there are a lot of teams beside Nebraska that actually want him. I know you'll say that being the coaches son hurt their chances to get offers, but believe me if a team wants you, they'll offer. I do agree that the offer list of a kid can be telling. There's no doubt that this kid is on top of everyone's list. Keep in mind that Ben did have offers from Iowa, Iowa State, Louisville and Wisconsion. I don't agree witht he 2nd part of the post though. I tend to think coaches probably don't want to waste a lot of time recruiting a kid that they feel there is no chance of getting. Not saying the other Cotton boys would have offer lists like Ben's but I do believe some teams didn't even bother due to belief that there is no chance of them going anywhere besides Nebraska. For whatever it's worth, Ferentz's son did not have any offers to any other schools when he comitted back in 2008... atleast according to Rivals.

Player: Devante Harris Hometown: Mesquite, Texas School: Horn Position: CB Height: 5'11" Weight: 160 40 time: 4.4 Scholarships: California, Nebraska, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, TCU, Kansas State, Mississippi State, North Texas, SMU, Stanford, Texas Tech and Virgina. Decommited from Oklahoma and recently received an offer from NU. Rivals: :star :star Scout: :star :star ESPN: :star :star 247: :star :star

And Barney is the one who determines who does and does not gets offers? You think Bo would risk his career on making sure his buddies kids get a full ride? If this were going on, you would think Bo's nephew would have gotten a scholarship as well. No offense to your ability to determine who and who isn't worthy of a scholarship from NU, i'm going to go out on a limb and say that the coaches might be just slightly better at evaluating talent.

Kyler Reed? Ben Cotton? One that can actually block and catch, not just one or the other. Ben Cotton actually showed this year that he was more reliable than Kyler at catching passes, if you ask me. He really turned into an all-around TE for us. I think you just made my point. If Ben Cotton is our best TE and you guys are ok with that than its no wonder why we seem to be slipping farther and farther away from national relevance. Judging by your disdain for the cottons, I can only assume that Barney must have put you in quite a few lockers back in the day

Amos and imani cross will be visiting the 20th according to rivals

More scholarships next year which means we can afford to take a few more risks...

#Huskers first to host Texas A&M DB commit Corey Thompson in January. Corey and dad leave impressed: http://t.co/qEayFcB9 -- JohnTalman (@JohnTalman) Thompson's father said: ""He'll take the remainder of his visits but Nebraska set a high bar and I take my hat off to Bo Pelini..." #Huskers -- JohnTalman (@JohnTalman)

Yeah so did Curtis Carter, and we all know how that turned out. He didn't make it to TCU, did he? Where is he at now?

As he was standing up there with those three hats up there I was waiting for Dear Old Nebraska U to blare over the PA system as the announcer starts screaming, "DO YOU HEAR THAT!?!?.... THAT's.... THAT'S THE CORNHUSKERS THEME SONG!!! NOOOOOOOOOO!!!" Then Jordan pulls out a red husker hat from behind his back and puts it on.... never happened.

No clue why there are no spaces... sorry

1.a. Lol, you say who cares about stars, yet keep citing people’s ratings.... Funny how when it works to your advantage, you throw it. When it doesn’t work out for you.... you say is doesn’t mean sh#t. funny! 1.b. Also, watching HIGHLIGHT films is a bad way to grade a player. A hightlight film is only HIGHLIGHTS of good plays. You think they put their bad plays in there? Their penalties? Come on man! To rate a player, you need to watch SEVERAL full games of the player, not just highlights. 2. We don’t know if they will play. Will they get hurt, not able to understand the system in 2 years, live up to expectations, get in Bo's dog house? In the end, they are juco. You have them for a few years, instead of 5. How many jucos have any of the traditional top 10 teams taken this year? (usc, texas, Bama, LSU, OSU, etc). 3. He is gone on Saturday. 4. I agree Rose deserves a 4th star and think he will get one. Oh, but I thought ratings didn’t mean sh#t? 5. Avery is a 2 star recruit (according to Scouts) that was only offered because of his family ties. No one is stupid enough to think we would offer him after we thought we had Westerkamp and possibly Fuller coming in. 6. Funny, I love how if people don’t agree with your opinion, they should "get a clue". How about pull your head out of the sand and take off your red colored glasses and admit we aren’t doing as well as we hoped in recruiting. It’s not the end of the world if we talk about our shortcomings, it doesn’t mean we aren’t fans and we don’t support our team. We don’t have to be obtuse, to be fans. I don’t understand why with some people, you can’t just talk about the facts without people getting their panties in a bunch. In the end, I think we have some good players, I just expected more by this time of the year. Bo may have shot a little too high this year with only going after big dogs. I hope next year we can take a more balanced approach. First of all, let me apologize for being an ass in that post. Combination of a long week of work and then reading the same old post over and over and over again kind of put me over the edge for a moment. Anyway, sorry. Now, to my rebuttal.1a. I clearly stated that I was going to use the ratings given to them because that was all you were interested in when you were listing them by stars. Not sure the advantage/disadvantage you're talking about when using the ratings when we are talking about the exact same people…. And I do retract the stars not meaning sh*t. The 2nd sentence is true though. I'm guessing a majority of NU's top ten players under Bo we're not highly recruited. 1b. But at least with a highlight reel you can see someone's speed, agility, technique, explosiveness, etc. with one's own eyes instead of relying on a recruiting service, who is in charge of ranking over 1000 kids, to tell you who is good. You think the recruiting services watch several games of every player in their database to determine their appropriate star rating? If they do, why is there such a large discrepancy in rankings of players between all the sites?2. You seem to not be a big fan of jucos. You can say the same thing about every recruit in every class. Who knows if anyone is going to pan out. I suppose it would be better to have a juco not pan out than a high school kid since only 2-3 years would be wasted opposed to 4-5. All I know is that this staff seems to be developing a decent track record with juco's and I don't think they should be seen as any less important to the class than a high school commit. Oh ya... USC - 2, Bama - 1, Texas - 2, LSU – 0, OSU – 0, Florida – 2…. Kind of a surprise to see any SEC school with juco's considering their ability to free up scholarships and oversign. You would think they shouldn't have any holes at any position. 3. You may be right but until something is made official…. Ya. You're probably right.5. I guess I'm stupid because I think this kid has some skill. So did the people at the Semper Fidelis Bowl invite him to the bowl expecting Andrus to follow? I'm sure the staff thinks getting Moss will help in the recruitment of Andrus but my guess is that they saw something in him over the past 2 years recruiting the Peats. Also, i believe we were always going to take 2 DE's this year due to lack of depth behind next years graduating class, so I don't think scholarship numbers had anything to do with it. You're also citing Scout which is by far the worst of all the recruiting sites. Good thing you didn't list the commits by stars from scout… your head really would have exploded. 6. Again sorry. You're entitled to your opinion. I guess I should have just tried to sway it instead of belittle it. Anyway, I think this class may end up being a little less than what people had hoped for but by no means is horrible or worth someone worrying over. If Andrus commits and a few other of our targets, I think this class will be close to last years.

first off, the "two jucos" are also 4 Star players, and 2 of the highest rated JUCO players in the nation. it's not like they're lousy cannon fodder. 2nd of all, Rose was in the UA All-America Game, and he's definitely more talented than his 3 stars suggest. It's a travesty he's not a low 4 star, at least the same goes with Afalava and Armstrong, besides the stars, there is also the "Rivals Rating"...I think the cutoff from 3 to 4 star is 5.8 (4 to 5 star is 6.1) Armstrong, Afalava, and Moss are all 5.7, 0.1 shy of 4 star rating, as is Rose. On that note, Moss for sure is a selling point to get Andrus Peat here, but it's not like he's a 2-star slouch, either. see the above sentence. The only ones I can really agree with you on is Sam Cotton and Thomas Brown...Cotton I don't think would be highly regarded if he wasn't a "Nebraska kid" and a coach's son. Brown may fit the profile of the coaches' "Diamond in the rough" type... however, this class is far from finished, and even now, it's far from weak. We've got a small, but strong class. Well said

1. Who gives a s!#t about stars. People put way to much credence into star ratings. How about we try looking at a kids film and offer list before writing them off but for clarity, Ill use stars when describing commits since that's the way most people on this board determine the quality of a football player. 2. The JuCos are 4 stars and are 2 of the top 12 jucos in the nation and will start the next two years. 3. Westercamp is still comitted and is a 4 star. 4. Of NUs five 3 star recruits, four have a rating of 5.7 which means their on the cusp of being a 4 star. Id be shocked if rose didn't get a 4th star after last nights performance. Best LB on the field. 5. Why does moss and cotton being commits with family ties take away from the fact that they are comitted? Peat fall into this category? 6. Everyone get a clue.

Considering this is a cornhusker message board, I think the entire post was pretty good.

Assuming he gets an offer..

Talman on USC says coaches are visiting him today.

Talman is reporting that JW will host coaches from both NU and ND this week and will make a final decision.

Wasn't not? Thats a double negative which means he is all about the tradition and hype... nebraska fits the bill

My guess is that he's a classy dude and wants to tell Martin face to face that he won't be attending ND..... ya

Was it when he said both teams are even?

TO is already in Orlando.... this may end up being the worse visit ever. Have fun at the Lincoln airport.

Maher, long and choi come to mind first

Their a legit chance to get this guy or did he just draw NU out of a hat to be his 5th team? Seems like this came out of nowhere.

Reconfirmed his commitment to Nebraska. 100% N. Sounds as if the increase in interest from other programs is not mutual.

Is that diggs with him in a husker jersey?