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Why We Are Fine and Will Beat Okie State


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Just wondering... this early in the season for both teams... doesn't the stats also reflect who we've both played?

 

Seriously, who has Nebraska played besides Texas (which you lost to)? Heck, Texas is what? 80th in total offense? They have scored 12, 20 and 20 in their past 3 games (which they are 1-2).

 

Western Kentucky, Idaho, Washington, SD State and Kansas State??? Big time foes there.

 

At least OSU has faced Troy, Tulsa, A&M and Texas Tech (top 30 in offense, 3 in top 20). I'd compare Tech to Texas in terms of strength at this point... which OSU beat in Lubbock. Which OSU allowed only 17 points (including 2 shutout quarters).

 

OSU has faced teams with very good offenses this year. ULL and Washington State are the only sub-par offensive teams they have gone up against. The rest are solid.

 

So again... what does the rankings really mean at this point? Nothing IMO.

 

You are facing a very good OSU team in Stillwater, on homecoming. An OSU team rated higher in the BCS than Nebraska... a team that is 3-1 the past 4 against Nebraska. A team with a top 5 QB, top 5 RB and #1 WR.

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Just wondering... this early in the season for both teams... doesn't the stats also reflect who we've both played?

 

Seriously, who has Nebraska played besides Texas (which you lost to)? Heck, Texas is what? 80th in total offense? They have scored 12, 20 and 20 in their past 3 games (which they are 1-2).

 

Western Kentucky, Idaho, Washington, SD State and Kansas State??? Big time foes there.

 

At least OSU has faced Troy, Tulsa, A&M and Texas Tech (top 30 in offense, 3 in top 20). I'd compare Tech to Texas in terms of strength at this point... which OSU beat in Lubbock. Which OSU allowed only 17 points (including 2 shutout quarters).

 

OSU has faced teams with very good offenses this year. ULL and Washington State are the only sub-par offensive teams they have gone up against. The rest are solid.

 

So again... what does the rankings really mean at this point? Nothing IMO.

 

You are facing a very good OSU team in Stillwater, on homecoming. An OSU team rated higher in the BCS than Nebraska... a team that is 3-1 the past 4 against Nebraska. A team with a top 5 QB, top 5 RB and #1 WR.

Weeden a top 5 QB? NO. Troy? ULL? Tulsa? Give me a break, the two teams scheduels are comparable. OSU has not faced better competition.

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First my two cents on the game (much of which has been repeated elsewhere).

 

Why the offense is fine.

1. Drops. All this talk about firing Watson is nonsense- if one of the 3 TD passes was caught the game has a different outlook and no one is blaming Watson. Drops are related to players messing up and position coaches, not scheme/play calling.

2. The youth of Martinez. Running the zone-read requires patience- the proper read must be made on every play and getting frustrated and rushing the read guarantees more failure. Against a worse defense like KSU's it was possible to get away with a few poor reads as Martinez' ability could overcome errors (see first touchdown against KSU). Lee actually found success with the zone read late in the game, due to proper, patient reads (although the Texas defense might not have respected him as a runner/may have been more inclined to play the pass).

 

Why the defense is fine.

1. The defense only allowed 20 points, 7 of which came after a fumble gave Texas the ball on the 20 yard line early in the game.

2. Texas rushed for 209 yards total. Gilbert had 71 yards rushing on 11 carries, 68 of which came in the first half. This was obviously a wrinkle the D wasn't ready for, but seemed to have adjusted for in the second half. Outside of Gilbert's performance, 138 yards rushing by the rest of Texas' back's hardly means that the Blackshirts were rolling over against the run.

3. Gilbert- 4/16 for 62 yards. Not much to say about this- 41 of these yards came on a pass to Whittaker due to terrible tackling.

 

Intangibles.

1. Pressure. There have been many other posts discussing the poor play of the Huskers in Lincoln. The extreme hype surrounding the game undoubtedly had some influence on the players, maybe accounting for some of the drops.

2. Lack of 'breaks.' Other than Hagg's punt return for a TD, which came too late in the game, Nebraska had no other lucky breaks of note, be it catches or calls by the officials. Hats off to Texas- a perfectly executed, conservative game plan prevented the Blackshirts from getting a turnover, which would've had a huge impact in the game.

 

Final analysis- a one-score loss that could have gone the other way had Nebraska executed/had one lucky break.

 

 

Why we will beat Okie State.

1. Offense- Oklahoma State is currently 92nd in yards per game allowed and has given up 21 TDs (vs Nebraska's 9). Their defense is more like KSU's than that of Texas and should allow our offense to perform.

2. Defense- although OSU has a prolific offense (2nd in the country), their spread style matches up better with our defense than the offense we saw out of Texas. Throwing the ball often will give our defense a chance to make one of the big plays they had in the first 5 games but couldn't get against Texas.

3. Intagibles- Bo Pelini's teams play well on the road and have bounced back well from disappointments in the past. This week the pressure is on OSU to get the huge win at home.

 

Summary- OSU is a better matchup for Nebraska than Texas and the intangibles are more on our side.

 

 

I stake what little reputation I have on a big win on the road this weekend.

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While I think OSU's offense is good, they are untested. Look at their opponent's passing defenses:

 

Washington State - 104th

Troy - 109th

Tulsa - 120th

Texas A&M - 101st

Lousiana Lafayette - 113th

Texas Tech - 117th

 

If our offense can hold onto the ball we will win.

 

If? IF!!! That "if" is a big word. "If" we held on to the ball in the TX game we wouldn't be having this post or convo. Fact is, we have no held on to the ball at all this season and have given it a "pass" because a win is a win.

 

"If" we hold onto the ball then, yes, we will win ... and that has absolutely nothing to do with Ok. St. or anyone they have played.

 

Unfortunately, the kool-aid drinkers don't seem to take a look at turnovers as anything of that significance.

 

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Just wondering... this early in the season for both teams... doesn't the stats also reflect who we've both played?

 

Seriously, who has Nebraska played besides Texas (which you lost to)? Heck, Texas is what? 80th in total offense? They have scored 12, 20 and 20 in their past 3 games (which they are 1-2).

 

Western Kentucky, Idaho, Washington, SD State and Kansas State??? Big time foes there.

 

At least OSU has faced Troy, Tulsa, A&M and Texas Tech (top 30 in offense, 3 in top 20). I'd compare Tech to Texas in terms of strength at this point... which OSU beat in Lubbock. Which OSU allowed only 17 points (including 2 shutout quarters).

 

OSU has faced teams with very good offenses this year. ULL and Washington State are the only sub-par offensive teams they have gone up against. The rest are solid.

 

So again... what does the rankings really mean at this point? Nothing IMO.

 

You are facing a very good OSU team in Stillwater, on homecoming. An OSU team rated higher in the BCS than Nebraska... a team that is 3-1 the past 4 against Nebraska. A team with a top 5 QB, top 5 RB and #1 WR.

Weeden a top 5 QB? NO. Troy? ULL? Tulsa? Give me a break, the two teams scheduels are comparable. OSU has not faced better competition.

 

 

Is he not a top 5 QB? Why would you say he isn't?

 

Brandon Weeded, a very mature QB (mainly due to his age and professional baseball experience).

* 163.04 Passing Efficiency

* #12 in the NCAA

* #1 in the Big XII

* 327.67 passing yards per game

* #2 in the NCAA

* #1 in the Big XII

* 19.00 Points Responsible For

* #4 in the NCAA

* #1 in the Big XII

 

And I agree, neither one of us have proved that much. Who has NU beat? Kansas State? Who has OSU beat? Tech and A&M... that's really about it.

 

My point in regards to OSU's terrible defensive numbers and Nebraska's lofty defensive numbers is the weak teams we've played... OSU has faced very solid offensive teams. Many are in the top 15 passing in the nation, top 30 in total offense.

 

Nebraska hasn't played the offensive teams anywhere close to what Oklahoma State brings to the table. We are talking about the #2 ranked offense in the nation at this point.

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