B1G Red Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 We. Are. Not. Talking. About. Generic. Violence. We are talking about gun violence. Becasue. Limiting. The. discussion. fits. YOUR. adgenda. Link to comment
Junior Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 We. Are. Not. Talking. About. Generic. Violence. We are talking about gun violence. Becasue. Limiting. The. discussion. fits. YOUR. adgeda. Dude. Seriously. You need to read the link he posted about your stats on "violent crime". Until you do that, there really is nothing to talk about. 2 Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 We. Are. Not. Talking. About. Generic. Violence. We are talking about gun violence. Becasue. Limiting. The. discussion. fits. YOUR. adgenda. What is the title of this thread? Link to comment
B1G Red Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Gun Ciontrol, If you only want parrots of your opinion, chang the OP to read "only post here if you agree" I'm expressing my view that gun control is not the answer. Link to comment
Junior Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Gun Ciontrol, If you only want parrots of your opinion, chang the OP to read "only post here if you agree" I'm expressing my view that gun control is not the answer. Gun control is not the answer to what? Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Gun Ciontrol, If you only want parrots of your opinion, chang the OP to read "only post here if you agree" I'm expressing my view that gun control is not the answer. Then go start a thread about violence in America. But don't tell me that I'm only looking at information that fits a particular agenda when I'm talking about the subject of this thread. Link to comment
B1G Red Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I could not disagree more with your assertion that gun control will curtail gun violence. If a law prevented murders, then the existing law against murder would suffice. Hence my argument that gun control will do nothing more to reduce gun deaths, than current laws making murder illegal already stop murders. Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Less guns = less gun deaths. Unequivocal truth. If I put 1,000 people in a room with no guns, how many of them would die by a gun? Link to comment
Junior Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I could not disagree more with your assertion that gun control will curtail gun violence. If a law prevented murders, then the existing law against murder would suffice. Hence my argument that gun control will do nothing more to reduce gun deaths, than current laws making murder illegal already stop murders. Murder rates in other developed nations would argue against you. England (ignoring your faulty data), Australia, Japan, The Netherlands, etc. All vastly lower murder rates than the United States. How do you explain that? Link to comment
B1G Red Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Have no interest in a thread about violence, have intense interest in a thread about gun control, which is a bad idea. Gun control = misleading feel good topic which will solve nothing. Link to comment
B1G Red Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Put 1000 people in a room with bricks, how many die by bricks? So what is the common denominator? Guns, Bricks, or PEOPLE? Link to comment
B1G Red Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 The evil to kill resides in people, not in an inantimate object. Get rid of the object (the gun), the evil still exists. Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Put 1000 people in a room with bricks, how many die by bricks? So what is the common denominator? Guns, Bricks, or PEOPLE? Thank you for proving my point. Link to comment
B1G Red Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Don't have to believe me, the people at Harvard University are smarter than me, and probably you too. Volume 30, Number 2 of the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy (pp. 649-694), set out to answer the question in its title: "Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide? A Review of International and Some Domestic Evidence." Contrary to conventional wisdom, and the sniffs of our more sophisticated and generally anti-gun counterparts across the pond, the answer is "no." And not just no, as in there is no correlation between gun ownership and violent crime, but an emphatic no, showing a negative correlation: as gun ownership increases, murder and suicide decreases. Link to comment
carlfense Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 We. Are. Not. Talking. About. Generic. Violence. We are talking about gun violence. Becasue. Limiting. The. discussion. fits. YOUR. adgenda. If the agenda is reducing deaths by firearms while still preserving our right to bear arms . . . I certainly do have an agenda. Y tu? Edit: sp. Link to comment
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