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I LOVE Riley's seemingly new love for pushing the envelope. Tom used to blitz at every chance that seemed to make sense. 3rd and 12? Blitz. 2nd and 15? Blitz. We seemed to have lost that in the last decade. I am glad to see it back. I think Riley said something like, "Luck favors the bold." I agree heartily and I like the risks he has taken so far. Now, Illinois, Purdue and so on probably make that an easy call. I hope he keeps it up against OSU and Wisconsin and later in the year. Mike reminds me a LOT of Tom and I hope he stays bold. Nothing to lose and everything to gain.

If you could simply express your message and people listened to you, then you wouldn't need to protest. Part of protesting is simply getting people to pay attention to your message, which most people won't do unless it's something eye-catching or provocative. So protests need to find what they can do to get that attention and get their message out. Anthem protests certainly succeed at getting attention, but as you say, we'll have to wait and see if the message gets out as well. Are you not paying attention? In this thread a LOT of people are paying attention. They may not change their views but they are now aware that there IS an alternate view. I have been checking Husker fan forums the last couple days. Many people are listening. That IS the point. They may not change their mind right now. But they might, or at least consider the other view. This is the purpose. To get people to realize there ARE other views. It may take time, it probably will. I am ashamed to admit that I, a minority, took a good long time to come around on gay marriage. But it was forums and posts just like this that helped open my mind. Maybe this will open minds too. An inoffensive protest is an ineffective protest. No one listens or even notices.

Start talking about and bring awareness to what? That, like Kaepernick said, the flag represents a country that oppresses black people and people of color? Oppresses. Really? Show me an American policy that puts Americans of any kind at a disadvantage, especially considering we've had a BLACK president for 8 years. http://www.huskerboard.com/index.php?/topic/80485-nebraskas-michael-rose-ivey-receives-racial-backlash-for-anthem-protest/?view=findpost&p=1742318 Read my previous post and open your eyes. I am writing in response to JEREMY and anyone else who feels the same way, that there is not currently a disadvantage for some Americans. There clearly is, and I will explain why. This is in regards to my people, the Indians of Western Nebraska, both in regards to blacks and African-Americans which this thread is actually about. I just cannot leave well enough alone, I guess. A (very small) history lesson: By treaty (law in other words), the US Government promised to take care of us as part of the repayment for stealing our land. However, they attached some conditions which also explain why it is so hard for Indians to leave the reservation and take advantage of 'the same opportunities' everyone enjoys. There are no jobs on the reservation, no chance to advance. We rely on government aid, also stipulated by treaty. The most important aspect is probably health care. We Indians average an income of around 8k per year. And that might be generous. HOWEVER, we are entitled to our health care. AS LONG AS we live on the reservation or WITHIN 30 MILES OF THE RESERVATION. Since the reservation features 80% unemployment and no prospects, it would be smart for Indians to leave. BUT, to leave would be to lose all medical care. It is bad medical care but it is better than nothing. There are no jobs, no chance to learn, only the opportunity to follow those poor souls before us for the last 150 years. JEREMY: Do you think this is a disadvantage to ANY Americans? This IS an AMERICAN policy and we most certainly ARE American citizens. Is there no disadvantage here? I mean no offense in asking this, I am purely interested in your responses since it is something I am intimately familiar with. See this link if you need proof and sources: https://www.ihs.gov/ihm/documents/index.cfm?module=dsp_ihm_pc_p2c4

No one said this wasn't wrong. Just a question, is it acceptable for a native American to call a random stranger a "bitch" in his first encounter? Did I call you or someone else a 'bitch'? I may have said that about your mother, but just to make an angry point. Still, if so, I apologize profusely and profoundly. I must have been extremely angry. That is quite unusual and I do sincerely apologize. I will try to do better. Do you have turrets? Thanks for telling me where you live, you know, just in case i want to come shake your hand. I did have turrets. But I sold the castle in France and the turrets were sold with it. I re-read my posts, and I do sincerely apologize. It can be difficult sometimes. Living in Florida now, very few people think I am Native American. Instead of Sioux, they all think I am Mexican or Puerto Rican. The word you were looking for is Tourette Syndrome. I do not think I have it, but my wife and son might vehemently disagree. They hear enough cussing from me that I wouldn't be surprised. Mostly when that SON OF A BITCH won't do the DAMN DISHES. Apologies and thanks. I hope something good comes of all this.

No one said this wasn't wrong. Just a question, is it acceptable for a native American to call a random stranger a "bitch" in his first encounter? Did I call you or someone else a 'bitch'? I may have said that about your mother, but just to make an angry point. Still, if so, I apologize profusely and profoundly. I must have been extremely angry. That is quite unusual and I do sincerely apologize. I will try to do better.

Yes, it would. Provided the player followed the law and got the permits from the city of Lincoln and the school and whoever else might be required to issue a permit. In fact, it would be admirable. That flag is an ever-changing piece of CLOTH that holds no meaning except what people attach to it. I am a native american, a member of an Indian Tribe, the Rosebud Sioux of South Dakota. That flag is a symbol of repression and conquest, of ill deeds and immoral behavior, murder of children and elders. That flag represents the unwelcome conquest of nations and tribes from the East Coast to Hawaii. You stand there in your 'sacred ground' of worship for the US Government and tell me I am wrong. My people live on a reservation in South Dakota and are faced with 90% alcoholism, universal poverty, an unemployment rate of 80% and an average life span of 48. You tell me, you stupid son of a bitch. Is that flag sacred? It killed millions, and the survivors of that massacre in the 1800s and 1900s are still among you. How sacred is that damn piece of cloth? Go to Whiteclay Nebraska and plead your sorry-ass case to a bunch of drunk Indians who hate you. I fought for that damn flag. And I tell you. it is worth the white blood spilled in its name. But it takes no consideration for MY people or the other races that died to preserve the rights you have. We are many and we are invisible. Our contribution has been, will be forgotten. The nazis would most likely have exterminated the remaining native population had the white devil not turned Omaha beach red with their blood to protect said native Americans. Also, and maybe this is just my crazy coming out, but if I'm an alcoholic, blaming someone else for my excessive consumption of alcohol doesn't help much... Not your crazy, your ignorance. So explain to my ignorant self why it's the American flag's fault that, as Flood put it, 90% of Native Americans struggle with alcoholism. To explain to your ignorant self: You latched onto one small piece of my statement, the least part of it actually. There is no fault with the flag. But the flag means nothing more, either. It is simply a symbol and is worth what you care to put into it. This has nothing to do with me, and I was wrong for inserting myself into it and apologize for doing so. My main point was that racism is all around you, even if you do not see it. The words, actions, and statements of our Husker athletes has value even if you cannot or refuse to see it. Do Not Dismiss It. Your experience is not universal. That was my only point and I made it poorly by trying to show the racism against natives in Nebraska. I will not mention that again except to answer any questions people might have. This is about MRI and the other students. Their cause, I believe, is just and honest. Please at least try to give them the benefit of the doubt. Coach Riley is a good man and would not suffer people with ill formed or foolish and untenable ideas.

Interesting turn of perspective and I appreciate it. Here is what you are talking about: The tribe I belong to, the Rosebud Sioux Tribe of South Dakota, was 'given' an area of land, sort of. First, we were granted the Black Hills in South Dakota by treaty, our ancestral homeland at the time. When gold was discovered there we were run off to the Pine Ridge and Rosebud reservations. There was a neat little 'freeway' between the reservations to allow the gold hunters access to the Black Hills which were originally promised to us. Now, when the reservations were started there were concerns about Indians selling their land irresponsibly or losing them in some other fashion. End result was the US government decided these lands could not be sold or partitioned. BUT, the heirs would all retain their rights to the land. Now, 5-8 generations on, I am the owner of an undefined few hundred acres somewhere in southern South Dakota, along with 1200 or so relatives, that none of us can find or do anything with. The US government continues to lease this out and sen us checks for about 20 dollars per year. I'd rather have the Black Hills which were ours by treaty, even if they weren't in my name. In the tribe's name would be fine. Apologies for the history lesson. GBR

Yes, it would. Provided the player followed the law and got the permits from the city of Lincoln and the school and whoever else might be required to issue a permit. In fact, it would be admirable. That flag is an ever-changing piece of CLOTH that holds no meaning except what people attach to it. I am a native american, a member of an Indian Tribe, the Rosebud Sioux of South Dakota. That flag is a symbol of repression and conquest, of ill deeds and immoral behavior, murder of children and elders. That flag represents the unwelcome conquest of nations and tribes from the East Coast to Hawaii. You stand there in your 'sacred ground' of worship for the US Government and tell me I am wrong. My people live on a reservation in South Dakota and are faced with 90% alcoholism, universal poverty, an unemployment rate of 80% and an average life span of 48. You tell me, you stupid son of a bitch. Is that flag sacred? It killed millions, and the survivors of that massacre in the 1800s and 1900s are still among you. How sacred is that damn piece of cloth? Go to Whiteclay Nebraska and plead your sorry-ass case to a bunch of drunk Indians who hate you. I fought for that damn flag. And I tell you. it is worth the white blood spilled in its name. But it takes no consideration for MY people or the other races that died to preserve the rights you have. We are many and we are invisible. Our contribution has been, will be forgotten. Wow really? And how did you find your way to huskerboard? I was born in Nebraska, Alliance way out west, in 1970. I grew up a fan of the football team and lived through racism from my earliest days. I had hoped, lately, that Nebraska had grown better than this. We will see.

Yes, it would. Provided the player followed the law and got the permits from the city of Lincoln and the school and whoever else might be required to issue a permit. In fact, it would be admirable. That flag is an ever-changing piece of CLOTH that holds no meaning except what people attach to it. I am a native american, a member of an Indian Tribe, the Rosebud Sioux of South Dakota. That flag is a symbol of repression and conquest, of ill deeds and immoral behavior, murder of children and elders. That flag represents the unwelcome conquest of nations and tribes from the East Coast to Hawaii. You stand there in your 'sacred ground' of worship for the US Government and tell me I am wrong. My people live on a reservation in South Dakota and are faced with 90% alcoholism, universal poverty, an unemployment rate of 80% and an average life span of 48. You tell me, you stupid son of a bitch. Is that flag sacred? It killed millions, and the survivors of that massacre in the 1800s and 1900s are still among you. How sacred is that damn piece of cloth? Go to Whiteclay Nebraska and plead your sorry-ass case to a bunch of drunk Indians who hate you. I fought for that damn flag. And I tell you. it is worth the white blood spilled in its name. But it takes no consideration for MY people or the other races that died to preserve the rights you have. We are many and we are invisible. Our contribution has been, will be forgotten.

I will add my two bits. My friends and I went to war, a war we are still uncertain about, to protect your freedoms. We killed some people, we freed up a lot of oil in Kuwait to get loaded on tanker ships. We certainly did a good job for the Kuwaiti people though they haven't ever said much about it. We did this in the name of 'freedom'. And foremost on our minds was the idea that, one day or any day, Americans might benefit from this in some way. Since we are little people, the grunts with guns, the best we could come up with was the OTHER Americans might continue to have the right to protest and dissent with their government. That seems to have happened. That is the reason we fought, other than a paycheck (Honestly that was more important, since we are all and were poor people). Our fight was in the hope that others might speak LOUDLY so that people like us never had to fight again.

Burning a flag absolutely IS protected speech. Thank goodness, too. It would be the height of hypocrisy to place that piece of cloth as sacred above our constitution. I also served, during the Desert Storm Era. I also know a bit about racism, both casual and institutional. I am a native American. I was born in Alliance Nebraska and lived a lot of my life on Pine Ridge, and my tribe's home the Rosebud Indian Reservation in SD, just north of western Nebraska. Racism against tribal members runs rampant out there in ways most people would refuse to believe. Many people couldn't begin to imagine the way tribal members are treated in that area. Certainly, it is not universal, but that fact does nothing to lessen the times it does occur. The racism some of you deny is lurking in your own backyard, hidden out in the Sand Hills and prairies. I am proud of these young men for standing up for what they believe in. I've seen many people claim that athletes should accept their fate as 'role models' and act accordingly. These young men are doing exactly that and are crucified by many for doing so.

This topic is about football, though. It also happens to be political. I am glad the school has made such a strong commitment to these kids and their right to speak. At this point it seems people are so focused on the method of demonstration that the message the kids hoped to send is in danger of being lost in the smoke. I noted in another thread that I am a veteran. My beliefs are strongly aligned with these kids and their right to speak about anything they wish. Whether my particular war helped preserve anyone's rights is doubtful (at least to me), I feel okay with my contribution possibly allowing these students to hold their protest. It's what our country was founded on, this right to dissent. Of course you do not have to agree. But if we can agree to disagree while discussing matters without resorting to threats of violence, we are enhanced as a country and society. All this is my opinion of course. Yours may be completely different and that is fine too. It is what makes America the place it is. I am very glad the school is supportive. And I hope they continue to stand their ground. Nebraska in the modern day is very much changed from the 70s when I grew up out in Western Nebraska. And I believe the changes are mostly in a good direction.

I, and many of my friends, spent a few years toting guns around the desert in the early 1990s so Mr. Rose-Ivey and others (including YOU) could continue to say your piece and express your views. I did not like being there and still wonder whether it was helpful in any way. But a whole bunch of Kuwaitis were awful glad we showed up. This country was founded on and built for dissent. The flag is a piece of cloth, the song is a ripoff of much older music but with patriotic American lyrics. There is nothing sacred about anything involved except the blood spilled and lives given by those who fought to make sure we all have the right to protest any damn thing we want. I don't care if it's the taste of the water, the treatment of our fellow people, or the color of the sky. Good men and women died so these people could make their political point. You may or may not agree. You also have the right to protest THEIR protest in your own way. But do not call them un-American. There IS nothing more American than trying to make your voice heard. Boston Tea Party anyone? Kent State? Because you do not see or agree with their cause does not make it any less important to them. And I would hope we can all agree on that, at least. See this for the origins of our hallowed anthem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Anacreon_in_Heaven#The_earlier_version_of_the_lyrics

There's always that one girl who has to ruin the picture by flashing her boobs . . . Unreal.

There is an astronaut in the student section. Seriously.

As great as these numbers seem, depending on your perspective, they worry me a bit. As realignment continues, we face the question of consolidation among the CFP and the possibility of schools being left out who were previous members of the P5. This could lead to inquiries by the DoJ and Congress and allegations of illegal monopolies in CFB. That part worries me greatly. At the very least, the conferences should be trying to make every effort to keep all P5 schools in a P5 conference, even if conferences fail (Big 12). Otherwise, all it takes is one reasonably powerful Senator from that state to open a can of worms. And that is assuming the G5 do not open that can themselves if they are consistently left out of the CFP, or worse, regulated out by including only P4 Champs when we get down to 4 power conferences. It might be wise for every conference to take on one more 'dead weight' type school than they would like, just to assure this doesn't take place. It costs a little in the long run but keeps the gravy train going as long as possible.

Should LSU have BEEN ranked number 5? Do preseason polls mean anything? A LOT of top teams have lost so far and we have a couple highly ranked teams and games to go. We shouldn't have ratings/rankings until a few weeks in (end me beating old drum).

There is NO way this is allowed to happen. Just think about it. Have you all lost your minds? Also, the sellout officially ended today. I bought a ticket and did not show up. I also spotted my empty seat in the BTN coverage, so I KNOW it's over. The facade has finally fallen. Now we can get back to championships. Glad that is off my chest (and yours). /s

ESPN asked this very question about Nebraska, last year or two, and the only state that saw NU as Top Tier or elite was Nebraska. I think a fair amount of trolling comes into play, but there is no doubt the clock is ticking. We have 5-10 years before we more closely resemble Minnesota with all their old championships than resembling the Huskers of the 70s-90s. NU needs to get moving quickly in the right direction.

I feel optimistic, too, and I was really, really hoping Bo would turn it around, a-hole or not. It's been a while since we had a fearsome team. But I also want to see us do this like we used to: Play to all of our potential with minimal mistakes. If we do that and the other team wins, the other team was simply better and we need some improvement. There are numerous games in the past several years where I felt like we were certainly better, as a group of individual players, but not as a team. Hopefully we are headed this direction. I believe that a cohesive 'all in' team can generally win more games than a team full of superstar egos without that cohesion.

OSU- B1G Championship Game USC(or whoever)- CFP Round 1 Bama- CFP Championship comes back to Lincoln Those three, in that order, would make me smile.

Texas, being Texas, wanted to extend the GOR in very small increments at the time of the original implosion. They wanted 4-6 years at a time for the GOR. Nebraska was looking far longer into the future and wanted at least 20 years and would have taken even more if possible. Simply incompatible views on how the conference should operate. That difference of opinion made Nebraska believe that Texas (considering the PAC move at that time) would ALWAYS be looking to exit to a better deal. Made sense for Texas, but not for NU. NU needed, because of our middle of the country location, to know that our conference, whatever it was, would be a decades-long venture. Not a 5 year wheel of fortune. So when we had the chance to join the B1G we took it. It offers us a home for possibly centuries. But certainly for many decades. Stability, which we could not get in the Big 12. As far as blame, I don't blame anyone. Everyone acted in their best interests (AT THAT TIME). It was a tumultuous and dangerous period, and NU very easily could have been left without a conference home. It seems shocking, but I believe it's true. We're a small market school with a national following which is or can be hard to quantify compared to Texas. I believe Oklahoma should be considering all the same factors. As good as they are at football, they also could be left out if the situation changes just a bit. A 10-15 year downturn in their football success (perhaps after Stoops retires) could place them at the junction NU was in. No recent football success, a waning interest among TV audiences, and a major realignment in conferences could put them in a tough place in the future.

I don't know all the little details behind this decision. All we can do is trust that those in power who DO know the details have made the best choice given the situation. And that their decision wasn't entirely motivated by the desire to win games or retain recruits. Three DUI's seems incredibly bad. But how long should a person suffer for mistakes and how many chances does one get? Is it the same for every person in every circumstance? I'm not informed enough to know what should have been done. But I do feel informed enough, now, to say that any inkling of the slightest trouble out of KW should result in immediate firing in the future.

Good God. Was that photo necessary? Was the OWH monitoring every door to the place all day just to provide us with that compelling pic?

My first reaction is he should be fired. If the university somehow finds a compromise that allows him to get his life together, go through rehab and an extended probationary period with random tests and even house checks or gps tracking, I could possibly support that. Anything short of that kind of tough reaction, though, wouldn't be enough. And my intent is not to make the man miserable, but accountable. To himself, his family, the team and coaches, and most importantly to the school and wider society. I hope the school finds a reasonable way to help him, but the understandable reaction is to fire him. Terribly unfortunate.