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Don't know if it's the grind of a long physical season or injuries at spots, but we haven't played as well defensively since the MSU game. MSU, Maryland and Wisky seemed to find some flaws to exploit when needed.BUT still better than previous years. Just hard to gauge as the West is really weak this year, but hard to discount that stats of the D. More TO's next year and I'd expect us to be even better.

I wondered that as well or the S&C, buts D seemed to be spared from injuries. Figure that it would make them more prepared as they'd get "conditioned or used to the hits".

If we die, we die....Or as the Spartans said "With your shield or on it". Rather go down trying to win, than trying not to lose.

Hate to see him go. But can't blame the guy of that's what he wants. Plus the pay day. But what he did in 1 year was pretty amazing. Be great to see that year 2 jump....Saw someone had posted Miss St DC would be a guy to go after if White gets hired away. He was with White and knows the 3-3-5.

Can't complain about them getting experience. I like White and the D doing it by design (and some injuries) vs the O having to do it purely by injuries. A lot to build on. We are a crazy young team on both sides. Truly don't think the staff on either side wanted to play this many young guys this much or with this many reps. But with the portal, I think you almost have to in order to "keep guys" from moving on.

Is it really 10? Or did the Melvin Gordon game count more.

Appreciate it. I like your stuff as well. Good insight and discussions. Shouldn't have come off so harsh on my reply. I am ticked. Can't lie. Last night was a bad loss. Truly thought we had them. I also complained about Beck and Watson a lot I did complain on all of Riley's staff, most of Frost's, but did like Bo's. I do like Chadwell a lot. Watched him at Charleston Southern and followed him since. Just like his scheme. Really think it would work. A lot of others as well, but he's a SC guy. I think that TO's O would have evolved into this. He uses a lot of those basic concepts. Complexity in the simplicity as it were. There's Iowa next week and then the off season. Tome to recruit and rebuild. Really hoping to get Iowa. The seniors deserve a bowl game. Hate the thought of Iowa being the reason we don't go bowling.

For me, personally, the issue is he is the QB coach. He's been dealt a crappy hand with the TO's following Sims, HH getting bit by the same bug and injuries. But even with the TO's still had them throwing downfield to open DB's like punters shagging a punt. They never improved in any of that. The first 2 series last night were great. And then Wisky adjusted after the 1st and we got 3 points in the remaining 3 quarters. Once he gets behind the sticks, he doesn't seem to know what to do. The option play has been bad with HH and Chubba. I am a fan of it, but not the way we "try" to run it. With the O struggling Satt is an easy target. But at the end of the day he is the OC and the O is struggling.

Really nothing tbh. A lot like watching Frost for 5 years to be honest. Chances to win and then snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Chubba played well. Pleasant surprise. Hoping we get Iowa looking to the B1G championship. Be great too bowling and beating them 2 years in a row. Better on penalties. Chubba cadence might have been an issue and the noise. A lot of work going into 2024 season. For me, pre-season, I said bowl or bust. Not as a measure of Rhule and success, but a visual, tangible "thing" that showed we are better. Probably 5-7. With a pretty down B1G West. Just like last year. With a Interim coach.... Just 3 really crappy looses in a row. To 3 teams on multiple game losing streaks... GBR!

And we still lost. I can give a flying F about the stat lines.....All that matters in W-L. 7 years winless against them. No win there since 1966. And it's not just this "close loss". Stop me if you've heard the best 1 score loss team in the country before. We are now on year 6 of "close losses" and "moral victories". Dude is getting paid north of 1 millions....He has not had a prolific O in any of his stops. Wasn't suppose to be the OC here until Peetz fell through. OC by default. I wasn't a fan then and even less after 11 games.

We have been wandering in the desert for longer than I care to remember. We are the only FBS team to have not gone bowling the past 6 years. We have been stumbling and bumbling since firing Bo. How do we get better? One way is with a competent staff. With all of the money available, do you really think we hired the best guys possible? McGuire as WR for example. First coaching job is at a rebuild program in the B1G. I am a firm believer in the crawl, walk, run methodology. But as you said we are crawling. Why? With the resources, NIL, history etc we shouldn’t be struggling this long or be this bad. Continuing to lose is only going to make it harder and harder to get the right guys here. There’s no reason Liberty should have better skill positions than us. But they have some solid guys. Same with other G5 schools. I’m just sick and tired of out MO being “ keep it close and NU will beat themselves”. Execution is horrible. There’s been little to no improvement on the O side. If a guy is on scholarship they should at least be able to jog using your analogy. And some are not. And it shows. I bag on Satt, but what is his system? His scheme? I have no idea as we do none of “it” well. At least Chadwell has a scheme he is known for. That he runs well. And has won with.

Agree. What current O player to put the game on their shoulders to win? Half a$$ blocking by receivers and TE's. RB rotation is ridiculous at best. Like every play you swap them out. No rhythm at all. Receivers don't appear to have near the ability of other receivers on other teams that routinely make great plays. QB's who are just as likely to throw a pick as they are an incomplete pass....Go for broke next week. Leave it all on the field. Iowa would love nothing more than to send us home (again) without a bowl game. Who wants it more.....

PAC 12 and Big 12 D's not very good either.

Are those 3 guys game changers? Have they been game changers? TBH, I'd say that Liberty's skill guys and QB are better than ours. And that's an issue. Better talent or development? Chadwell knows his scheme forwards and backwards. It's his. A lot of read option, misdirection and RPO. One predicated with the run, attack the perimeter with QB or a pass. More like a triple option with the receiver as an option. Also uses mostly 20/21 personnel. Something that would bode well with NU's stable of backs. I also like that much like TO, they have a set of core plays/principles that they run through a lot of different motions and formations. It's a unique option, and much like TO's is difficult to devote a lot of practice to as it isn't that common. Plus I am biased. I like a run based scheme. Chubba is the best QB on the roster and it's not even close. I loved the misdirection in the first quarter, but do not remember seeing it again. End of the day, I just want NU to win again. I do not think we will get to where we want to be with Satt as the OC. If we go all WCO, Spread, Pro Style, Texas Coast etc...I don't care. Just win.

Rhule even said about last weeks call (to paraphrase) "We want to teach the kids to not be afraid to fail" What did they teach tonite with the horrible clock management and not going for the win. Manage the time better and you'd still have 10-15 secs minimum and 1 TO to try.

Salter has thrown 26 TD's to 4 INT's, almost 2200 yards, with an almost 60% completion rate and rushed for 705 yards. Granted in the G5, but not bad numbers at all. Chadwell's O has been run centric, but still has QB's that can effectively move the ball through the air. I definitely wouldn't call them one dimensional.

We have consistently "recruited better" than all the teams in the West and only lower than UM, PSU and OSU in the East. The inability to develop and retain them has been a huge issue for sure. Kids want to play for a wining program. We are currently not one. Kids want to go to programs that will show case their abilities. I have no real idea what our scheme is. What skill position has shined. Who is our game on the line he needs the ball guy.....We have no identity.

And yours isn't a lot of assumptions at best? Remember when Frost and UCF beat Auburn? Didn't we lose to a couple of G5 schools under Frost? Almost lost to one under Pelini if not for AA? Parity is getting more and more prevalent in the FBS. If they can get those elite players on O why can't we. Whatever we are trying has not done well in year 1. Yes injuries have impacted this, but QB is horrific at best. I'm still a fan of Chadwell's scheme. And still think it would be successful.

I'd give it a shot. NU's O wouldn't work at that level either, but here we are. "Better" athletes, hard to scheme for, unique, I'd try it. Sure wouldn't be any worse.

Chadwell has had multiple years of winning at that level. Much better coach than Frost IMHO. Chadwell has really developed that scheme. Don't want to say invented, but is an originator in it. I wanted him as HC a few years ago. Wanted him when Frost was fired. Undefeated at Liberty this year. Has been ranked more years as a HC than Nebraska has since since Pelini was fired. I'd take him in a heart beat. Maybe Korn is just as sharp, maybe not, but I'd give it a shot.

3 QB's-TO's Play calling is suspect Doesn't scheme around the talent he has Has a history of poorly ranked offenses I simply don't like him as an OC. Will take a lot for me to change on that. So I am admittedly biased.

He's the QB coach and his guys play with fingers covered in vaseline. Bottom line, the old adage "if nothing changes, nothing changes" holds true...

I know people think that Chadwell's O at Coastal and Liberty is gimmicky, but they flat out win....Willy Korn and Kaidon Salter with a little package deal with salary and NIL.... TBH, I followed Beck after he left NU. Dude has become a solid OC. 7-4 his first year at Coastal.

Because this O and his QB's have sh!t the bed in every loss we have had. You can't honestly look at the O and see the same improvement as the D or think that they are "close" in ability and performance.

I can't emphasize this enough. His offenses have never ranked very high. Rattler is much improved this season (new OC, scheme, language etc....). Live in SC. Have Gamecock family/friends. They were ecstatic he was hired away. Dude sucks. Plain and simple.