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Oral contracts are written out now??? Joke Explainer Guy: You see, oral contracts aren't written on paper at all. Since UNLFan has posited that their value is based on the value of that paper, he has insinuated, through the creative use of metaphor, that they have no value.

What would you base the "8 best" on? More people voting? Another committee arguing about it instead of letting the teams that proved they were the best in their conference in? How do you argue that a non-champion of a conference was better than the champion who had a better record in the conference? Why even have anything in place that allows for that kind of foolishness? I don't want to ever have to hear another explanation for why a team that LOST in a head-to-head match up is better than the team they lost to.

I'll agree that Frank inherited a great program, but saying they had the same success is incorrect. 3 top 10 finishes for Frank. A conference title. A better win %. A 1-loss season. Two 2-loss seasons. Bo can claim none of these. Even better is the fact that Frank wasn't a douchebag. Bo was handed Suh and the teams that got him the closest he ever had to relevance. BC gave him some great athletes.

Yeah, that KSU team was poorly represented in the polls because of injuries early in the season. I'm forgetting their names, but their QB and RB were both awesome, but were injured early in the season, which contributed to some losses. I think they both came back in time for the NU game and made Nebraska look foolish.

Unless i hear it from your Salt Water aquarium guy, I aint buying it. Oh, man, last time I saw that guy he had so many horrible stories. One time, Bo dropped a fish in a vat of hot oil and then he ate it!

I kind of have to agree with your Whoop-tee-doo. While I appreciate the time that you must have sunk into this analysis, with little meaningful interconference play, the stats all have to be interpreted in isolation on a conference level. All they really tell us are the performance of teams relative to their groups with no real quantitative means to compare on a group or between groups level because they were not randomly assigned to groups, so we cannot make any assumption about equality of the groups. In other words, for a team's within group performance to be extrapolated to a comparison with another team in another group, the groups need to be equal or at least assigned in such a way where a reasonable assumption of equality can be made. That's going to be the real hurdle of any attempt at an objective method of ranking between groups. There is so much "seems-like" thought at work and the profoundly flawed method of applying illogical common sense (e.g. "everyone knows that the SEC is the best...") necessarily at play to come up with national rankings. Whew. As an aside, I was trying to compare statistics on week 5 (which was waaaayyy too early) by looking at the team of interest's offensive and defensive scoring data, then comparing that to the opponents' offensive and defensive scoring data. I was curious about NU v MSU, so I looked at the average number of points NU's opponents scored against their opponents. I created an average point total (not including NU) and compared that against what they scored against Nebraska (and did the same thing for their defenses). So instead of seeing if Nebraska held their opponents to some such number of points, I was looking to see if the defense held them to a score below their average. That would let us know if a team was simply, on average, low-scoring and if what looked like a defensive success could be attributed to what was a low-scoring offense. Anyway, the result of all of that was that NU tended to hold teams to below their average, MSU held teams to about average. Based on that, and that NU was lower scoring than MSU, I predicted a close game that would, optimistically, go NU's way. Well, I had the close game thing right (in the end!). Anyway, I thought that might be a fun system to try to work out in the off season, but there just aren't enough data points early in the season to do any analyses that are very meaningful. However, I did wonder if something like that could be used to make reasonable predictions across conferences. My TL;DR-- this only further demonstrates that just trying to come up with even a moderately objective system should leave anyone with the realization that 1) Only within conference rankings are possible and 2) we need a larger playoff. I would LOVE it if official rankings were only released based on teams' standings in their respective conferences.

Are you serious? Yeah I am. Is there something wrong with that? I'm no animal conservationist but either one of two things occurred; he either tried to kill the racoon so he could take a picture with it and got bit in the process. Or, he tried to take a picture with a life racoon and got bit and decided to kill the racoon. Again either way it's a dumb dumb move. And one is f'd up cause it's his fault he got bit for messing with a wild animal. well, I can guarantee you Gangwish has killed hundreds of coons that WERENT trying to bite him, FOR FUN. Is coon hunting not legal in a city? What the hell difference does it make. A harmless picture transpiring into self defense? And he has to be suspended for it? Because of pressure from a garbage organization like PETA? Cmon. What the hell is wrong with this country and political correctness? Not saying I disagree with you but hunting a raccoon with a rifle and bashing one to death with a wrench are kind of different. it tried to bite him. theyre a nuisance animal. Theyre declared so. it's why you can hunt them without a liscense. Same as a cyote. He was bitten. Needed tested for rabies. That god damn thing was gonna be beheaded and the head sent in for testing anyway. That's the whole lack of common sense in all this. f#*k PETA. In ending, serious question. What's the new punishment when you hit a coon on the road with your car? What's the new law? I'm dead serious. It bit him because he stopped his car and tried to pick up a wild animal. That's what wild animals do when you stop and mess with them.

My understanding it is a private conversation to his former players at an off campus meeting... My understanding non team required... So private meeting at a private site... The guy got fired letting off steam. I think most people see it for what it is. Not like he called ESPN and said hey guys let me tell you all the skeletons in the NU closet. If that was the case yes revoke his buyout. Bo needs to however realize there are people recording him. Seems some people love this car crash and love staring at it, and or *cough* Polo *cough* gloating at a mans demise. I am sure in a week if Bo says F@## NU at a Christmas party and is recorded, certain insidious board members that just cant win will post it and want to hire Bo again and fire him all over again! Question: Besides boredom or spite why do you care? I do not care or argue with the crazy angry man at the grocery store that blames Obama for it raining today. Most likely who ever recorded Bo probably got a pay day for doing so from the press... http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81449531/ I think this scene from Extras of Ricky Gervais on the media really sums it up. Yes it is gutter media, private conversation - get on with your life. If you are laying in the gutter to get a upskirt of a celebrity than you are the gutter press. Bo is gone. I don't know if a public school counts as a private site especially when they didn't even have permission to be there. We owe Pelini a lot less than he owes us. We gave him far more than his ability, experience, and character deserved.I don't really buy the "turning the program around" angle, anyway. Were the 2014 Huskers really any better than the 2008 Huskers? Very little progress was made overall (not Bo's fault according to Bo). Look back at 2007 and the schedule BC played. The Big XII was strong that year (even Kansas was in the top ten), and I don't think that this year's BP team would have done considerably better. It's just that so much of the Big Ten was awful, which padded some numbers.

so much of it is so bizarre. bo's pity for himself and not getting enough support. wondering what he was doing here. just coach football, man. no one is out to get you. and what did he want from the AD? seriously. what is he talking about? did he really want the AD hanging around practices and the locker? what would he have said then? then when he talked about core values. again, what is he talking about? and the only value of bo's seems to be blind loyalty to incompetence. his incessant need for support, which what that exactly means is vague. and what did he do to foster a relationship with the AD. and why could he not just coach? just worry about the upcoming games. he has only himself for getting so wrapped up in any other drama, mostly self-created. just bizarre. His call for "support" reminds me of a lot of the discussions here where people accuse others of not supporting the team or that they will support the team. I asked on numerous occasions what that meant, and never got an answer. Buying gear, watching or listening to games, cheering, etc. didn't seem to constitute support. I got the idea that the ONLY way to support the team was to never criticize them, never believe that things should or could be better, and certainly never even talk about staff changes. Anything short of that left a person open to be accused of "not supporting the team." Yeah, some people crossed lines the other way, but I'm not talking about them. Bo seems to have had that mentality. I don't know how much more support he could have gotten. Awesome facilities, a huge paycheck, a gigantic budget, an incredibly loyal fan base (which provides the money that make all of those other things possible, btw), constant improvements to the stadium. I mean, what the hell else did he want? I can only think that he wanted the same sort of devotion from the fans and media that he got from his players.

Runza's okay but compared to In-N-Out it's a dump. We do have a 5 Guys.

So what? What does that have to do with what he did, what he got paid to do, and what he could have resigned from at any time? I hope you have never criticized food, music, movies, doctors, etc. or anything that you yourself do not do. This argument is nonsense.

Agreed. I want to think he's a good dude generally, I mean, we've seen good aspects of him, but, man... No we haven't. We've seen a selfish narcissist a-hole willing to use anyone, including a sick kid to further his image. Thank you. Yes. Since the "us vs. everyone else; we can only trust Bo" attitude became totally obvious, he's seemed a lot more like a cult leader mashed up with a bully than a functioning adult. A lot of the time, bullies think they're retaliating for wrongs that they've only imagined, and emotionally isolating followers is totally what charismatic cult leaders do. They engender a climate of paranoia to make the members cling to them as the only person who can be trusted. It's completely toxic. Before reading this, I kept this thought to myself, mostly, because I thought it was an unfair comparison and probably over-blown. I don't think that now. This is totally nuts.

I never had any "cred" to begin with. I'm just some schmoe with a keyboard and an internet connection. I have never professed to be otherwise. I mean, if that post ruins my "cred" then I'm OK with that. If anyone didn't understand that you were offering conjecture based on what would be expected of a reasonable man, then their opinions shouldn't really count for a whole lot.

So are you saying it was NOT a slight swipe at the Nebraska administration? Cuz that's what I thought too, until I heard his whole comment. Now it's obvious it was. He's been a head coach at one place. And the part about "having a president who knows football and WILL SUPPORT ME is something i havent had before....". C'mon. Without the support part, and just the know football part, yeah, you could come to the conclusion I originally came to. I'm saying that Bo could have taken the high road but chose not too. There was no reason for him to take a swipe at NU during his first speech at YSU. The school just canned him for winning over 70% of his games and replaced him with a guy that essentially has a .500 career record. He has plenty of reasons to take a swipe at NU. whether or not its smart of him to do for future employment reasons is a different question, but it is not like Bo was out of line. Yes he was. If people can't wrap their heads around why he was a failure at. Nebraska at this point they never will I guess. I agree with Polo. It's not solely about the winning percentage. haha. you guys have thin skin. This was a soft, borderline jab. I actually read it more of just appeasing to his new boss. He was out of line for barely jobbing a school and president that just fired him? People are soft around here. If by "fired" you mean "continues to pay him three million dollars a year for not working," then yes, he was fired. I feel really bad for him. Was he not fired? Did I say the man who continues to draw a larger salary than any other employee of the State of Nebraska wasn't fired?

So are you saying it was NOT a slight swipe at the Nebraska administration? Cuz that's what I thought too, until I heard his whole comment. Now it's obvious it was. He's been a head coach at one place. And the part about "having a president who knows football and WILL SUPPORT ME is something i havent had before....". C'mon. Without the support part, and just the know football part, yeah, you could come to the conclusion I originally came to. I'm saying that Bo could have taken the high road but chose not too. There was no reason for him to take a swipe at NU during his first speech at YSU. The school just canned him for winning over 70% of his games and replaced him with a guy that essentially has a .500 career record. He has plenty of reasons to take a swipe at NU. whether or not its smart of him to do for future employment reasons is a different question, but it is not like Bo was out of line. Yes he was. If people can't wrap their heads around why he was a failure at. Nebraska at this point they never will I guess. I agree with Polo. It's not solely about the winning percentage. haha. you guys have thin skin. This was a soft, borderline jab. I actually read it more of just appeasing to his new boss. He was out of line for barely jobbing a school and president that just fired him? People are soft around here. If by "fired" you mean "continues to pay him three million dollars a year for not working," then yes, he was fired. I feel really bad for him.

This'll be interesting, that's for sure.

Yes. I'm glad that violence against women ended in the 90s. There is no need to ever talk about it. Certainly, any changes that have happened have happened because nobody talked about it.

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I only voted 8 because I think that would be the "best" in that it would be the easiest to get people to agree to (especially after the way this post-season has gone). I'd really love a 16-team playoff. I STILL don't know how it devalues the regular season. Even if it went somewhere crazy, like 32, that's still around 100 teams that get left out. Sixteen is still barely over 10% of the the teams-- that is a fairly elite population that really would have had to take care of business during the regular season to get in. It's not like the NFL where, what? just about a third of the teams get in? At 16, and especially at 8, a team really has to shine to get in. The regular season will matter SO MUCH. If anything, the old model made the regular season not matter for a vast majority of teams since only two could even be considered for the championship. Lose the "wrong" game? Oh, then you're definitely way out. Under the old model, Ohio State could have pretty much called it a season after losing to VT, but now they get a shot. I think that's pretty cool (not because it's Ohio State, but that the system can allow it).

Its an LSU board. Not Missouri crap. Tiger Board, Tiger Droppings, ... I get confused sometimes. The SEC should just change its name to "Tigers."

Air Force coach Troy Calhoun says four-team playoff is 'un-American' http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/air-force-coach-troy-calhoun-says-four-team-playoff-is--un-american-221755992.html But that's kind of the "thing," isn't it? It "feels" right. Four teams relies far, far too much on subjective responses, qualitative data, and inductive reasoning.

He's talking about a chi-squared test.

It makes me wonder if this is like some girly click. Do you really welcome new people this way? I didn't know this was the initiation phase. LOL Is this Delta Upsilon? Clique. I honestly had no idea what you meant there and read it a few times before I got it.

I'm not a sociable type fan. No!

I know Tuff Tiger. I saw Tuff Tiger's first post here. You sir, are no Tuff Tiger. I miss that guy. I wish I still had the banner I made for him, but I lost it in some computer crash or another. Tuff as rain.