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Two Huskers, Two Clarks, Two soon. Sincere condolences to his family and friends! RIP Mr.Clark

It's his long ball throwing position. GBR

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All fans(any conference) should root for conference teams when playing non conference. These victories reflect the overall strength of the conference. Prior to the Huskers joining the B1G, I really didn't have any thoughts on the B1G, I thought it was overrated, which it is when comparing to other conferences top to bottom. I have found that bowl match ups of the lower tier teams at least seem to favor non B1G teams. This yr of course, two of the top programs not going bowling caused the shift up for the lower seeded teams. Adding those two would have leveled the playing field for the lower tier teams. Now to answer your question, yes I have conference pride in that I want all B1G teams to play well and win OCG's. GBR

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Stars are for Hollywood, most of these players received their ranking after their junior yr. I witnessed to many players with low stars during recruiting become great college players. GBR

Drake Martinez is N. http://omaha.com/article/20130131/HUSKERS/130139907/1002#coach-praises-nu-commit-drake-martinez What say you? Great speed to have at safety. I like this commit even though I'm not a Taylor fan. GBR

Saban didn't learn to coach till he could recruit SEC style. This is my problem with putting Saban so high on the list despite his 4 Nattys. Saban fully admitted that he couldn't win at MSU because he couldn't find a way to recruit at the level he wanted, so he jumps ship to a recruiting hotbed LSU. Then because he won at LSU, he figures he can coach anywhere and gets subpar results coaching the Dolphins. So he goes back to college football. Not just anywhere, but a heritage and recruiting rich school to help ensure he'll win. No way he ever would've/could've accomplished at NU what Devaney or Osborne did. He wouldn't have had the patience or recruiting prowess to do so. With all that stated, he IS probably one of the best game day/seasonal managers. IMHO, he's more like the real good salesman.

TMart's turnovers are one of the top issues. He's spotting competing offenses with good field position and easy points on a regular basis. Your QB just can't turnover the ball on such a frequent basis if you want to be serious about competing with the big boys. Yes, he has won us more games than he has cost, but he's still costing us games with this nonsense. AMEN

The O linemen that are referred to as the pipeline, was due in part to practice, whatever the 1's were practicing, the 2's and 3's were practicing the same exact play. Repetition of the same plays by the top three units every day. Osborne's playbook didn't have that many formations, just several variations off each formation. The O linemen as described above, were ready by their junior yr, unless they were a real talent. As far as recruiting, Dr Tom didn't recruit 5 star o linemen, his regimen in practice would prepare the linemen to step in when their time came, and they would be like machines, no errors, they knew their jobs, and the performed them without thought. Imagine the top three units all practicing the same plays at the same time every day. I believe this more than anything else is why the Huskers always had a great o line. GBR

Could be more as well. You never know until the season is over. If Miller gets knocked out early, every game could be a loss. That offense revolves around Miller way too much. No other play makers in the backfield. Michigan knows all to well about relying on that one certain player and having it all fall down (Lincoln last year). They were fortunate enough to have a talented Gardner to excel. I agree anything can happen, but the talent is on its way at Ohio St..... It won't take Urban long to get it.... Ohio State always has the talent.

Appreciate the condescension towards a comment that was in no way directed towards you. I'm not sure what your standards are for a 'young kid' but I don't really care what they are, you're welcome to go to my profile and deduce it for yourself if I meet your qualifications (I'll save you some trouble, I'm 21 years old). Regardless of my age I have read up on and watched film of professional and college teams and players back decades before I was born and played the game for 9 years of my life, but I'm a "young kid" so they might not matter by your judgment. The difference is the lack of intellect between you and I, which is something that is not beholden to age, unlike experience. I'd be thoroughly comfortable to PM you for a stick-measuring contest on academic and professional credentials because I have my guesses about what kind of person you are based on your unsophisticated manner of posting, which is very juvenile in tone. Even though you are quite older, you probably lack a high intellectual capacity and the ability to think intuitively. Heck, you don't even have proper reading comprehension skills. So let's begin: Quote #1. You failed to address any portion of my response to someone else's question other than the very last sentence of it. Even then you failed to comprehend it correctly. Where in that sentence did I "compare him to the super stars" or call him the "best in college football history"? Go back and re-read my post. I said Manziel has been my favorite non-husker so far in college football history. Favorite as in FAVORITE TO WATCH, as in exciting and flashy, as in I enjoy watching his ability to scramble around, improvise & extend plays. Favorite and best are two distinct adjectives. I am entitled to my opinion. I do not think Manziel is the best player in college football history, that would be Barry Sanders in my opinion. But in your rush to throw your stick around into an exchange that didn't involve you, you were motivated by the desire to condescend from your high-horse. Because that one time you rode the bench and were Johnny Rodgers' towel boy at Omaha Tech 44 years ago makes you the resident Huskerboard football expert. Maybe because senility might be creeping in you haven't realized there's a resource called the internet which gives anyone the ability to read up on college football history, which I have made judicious use of, since it is a passion of mine. Here's something I've learned that your rapidly deteriorating brain will never accept, college football players are only going to get better and better in the future. Genetically and developmentally players are more athletic today than they were even 10-15 years ago. If you transported Bobby Reynolds, Jeff Kinney, or Johnny Rodgers from back in time to today, they would all be riding the bench behind Ameer Abdullah and Braylon Heard. And in 30 years time, Ameer and Braylon today will look average athletically because players will be athletic superfreaks by that time. The best players in history have yet to come. Rich Glover was an all-american at 6'1 240 pounds. Tell me how many 6'1 240 linemen you see these days period. But I understand historical context and can still appreciate Rich Glover because he was dominant for his time, something that you think is impossible for "young kids" to be capable of understanding. Quote #2: Further indication that maybe senility might be creeping in because you seemed to have forgot that I was simply voicing an opinion as well. And it was an opinion that you completely misinterpreted. Quote #3: This is where I think your intuitive understanding of the game is severely limited. You lack the ability to think critically and have digested football at face value for 44 years because you are limited in intellect. Because if you were truly intelligent you would realize that the two are not unrelated, but rather very much intertwined. Field position plays a huge role in QB and offensive stats. Tim Beck has continually said in 2011 he had to have Taylor throw it around a lot because they were behind in score early, which is the defense's fault for allowing scores. When the team is down, the quarterback takes on high-risk, high-reward throws at a greater pace. Turnovers by the offense affect the defense by giving them a short field to defend. Hurry up-offenses force your own defense onto the field longer. There's a million pieces of evidence that offensive and defensive performances are related. Yet, after 44 years of supposed vast football experience you make one of the most elementary statements I have heard. I have honestly heard better musings from twelve year olds than that farce of a statement you just tried to pass off as analysis. Your response validates my original opinion. You are very young indeed. I did not misinterpret your meaning of Johnny Manziel being your favorite college player of all time. My response to that statement was very valid. "With all the super stars through out college football history(players who were fun to watch), to place Manziel at the top, shows your limited exposure, Yes, you are entitled to your opinion as to who is your favorite player of all time, it's just not a very large sample. He's fun and exciting to watch, however to make the statement that he's your favorite, is in direct relation to my comment about your age and validates my comment. It wasn't meant to put you down or to take anything away from Manziel. It was meant exactly as it was stated that in my opinion, you have a limited resource to choose from. You can use the internet as your source of information, and that has some merit, however, the internet cannot give you information as to how many towels I carried for Johnny Rodgers, or what my relationship with him was. So your attack on my character and intellect, just lowers you to a lever which you accuse me of. Also your assumption that Glover couldn't line up and play in today's game, has validity in only one fact, they have changed the rules, so that D lineman are off the ball 1 yard. If your judicial use of the internet was as good as you claim, you would have noticed that Rich lined up with his helmet nearly toughing the helmet of the center. His first step was so quick, the opposing center or guard most times doubled teamed, could not stop his penetration into the backfield. The center for the 71 sooners was Tom Brahaney, named a consensus all american, played at 6'2 250. Don't you think that today's weight room and training table wouldn't have put 40 to 50 pounds on him or Glover? So your comment about Glover not being able to play due to size is limited in its view once again. Ameer and Braylon would start over any of the players 10 or 15 yrs ago or longer. You're kidding right. if you don't believe that Mike Rozier, Ahmad Green to name a couple would sit on the bench behind these two , who played 27 and 16 years ago then the use of the internet hasn't done much for you or the sources you're using are faulty. It's obvious that I've ruffled your feathers about your age, and believing anything this senile old man has to say would be heresy. Genetically, I see no difference between players in the 60's and today, other than better weight training, better nutrition at the training table, earlier start and better coaching to young players, all contribute to today's player, but the talent of today's player does not exceed that of the players of the 60's, 70's, 80's, or the 90's. Do you honestly believe your own words that players 10 to 15 yrs ago couldn't win a starting spot on today's team? As to my comment regarding qb stats with a better D. To explain my comment (which I feel like I talking to a child) I was referring to TM not accumulating any stats while the D was on the field, Yes, I agree with your correlation between the O and the D, but If the D gave TM the ball in good field position all the time, his stats would go down wouldn't they???? You point at the stats of past qb's as not being as good as TM's, yet they played on better teams with better D's. Where's your logic???? I'm not going to get in a pissing contest with you, to be honest, you aren't worth the time, your still wet behind the ears and believe you know it all. I haven't lived in a cave for the past 63 yrs, my passion is college football as well. The difference is I've lived it live and in person, you on the other hand have to depend on stories and tapes on the internet and truly believe you know. Well kid you don't and that's the end of this back and forth with you. Your's truly Mr. Senile.GBR

John Dutton DE/DT went on to a NFL career with the Baltimore Colts and Dallas Cowboys

That's neat that you are old enough to remember both the 70s and 90s championship runs. I hope you'll be around for another one. We should have had at least three more IMHO 82. 83, and 93.

Uh, what? Uh, he is comparable to Humm In what way he is comparable to Dave Humm? That would be my question as well. Even though David didn't get a chance in the NFL (played 9 yrs behind Kenny Stabler Oakland Raiders). Those were the days before free agency. When you were drafted, that's the team you were on unless you were traded. A great passing qb. in Osborne's offense before he went to the option attack.

I love Brook, but you're young. How about Vince Ferragamo, David Humm, Jerry Tagge, Van Bronson, Bob Churchich, just to name a few, all were Pro Style passing qb's pre 1980's, all were pretty good, Brook didn't get the opportunities the others named above did, He may have been better than any of them, but we'll never be able to debate that. Brook didn't play all that much. He was a great team mate and a pretty good player, but to put him in the top ten is a bit of a stretch. Taylor is certainly in the top ten, just not as high in my opinion as some on this board have him.

You take things to seriously if someone else's opinion make you ill. I would like to now what accusation you are referring to, you said all of it. I didn't make an accusation to my knowledge about anyone or anything. I simply voiced my opinion which you took exception to. I haven't taken anything away from Taylor, The topic of this board was NU great qb's. I don't consider Taylor in the category. He hasn't done anything of greatness to deserve to be there. He's won the qb battle without any competition. Next yr I think (my opinion) you'll see Tommy take the reins before the season ends. That's not dissing taylor, just saying I believe Tommy is a much better qb. Not necessarily a better athlete. If it make you sick that some fans aren't on the Taylor band wagon, that's a shame, not many players have all the fans in their corner. I'm thankful for Taylor's contributions the past 3 yrs, I can't imagine where the Husker mind set would be without having had him. At the same time, he's not one of the great NU qb's. One of the best pure athletes. Absolutely. Let's just throw this out there, I haven't suited up in over 44 yrs. I played with Johnny Rodgers at Omaha Tech. I've attended more games before you were born than you have yrs on this earth. I have a little history related to the game that helps me form my own opinions. They are just my opinions, but most of my associates like to hear what I have to say, even if they don't agree with me. I like hearing what you have to say. It's what makes these boards interesting. But to accuse someone of making ridiculous accusations and then not stating what those accusations are, is just a little weak. Have a great night Nebraska Harry, I mean that sincerely. GBR

no more than yours does. That may be, but at least I don't make ridiculous accusations. What accusation did I make that you found ridiculous? Remember we're all Husker fans,, and I didn't mean to ruffle your feathers>

I completely agree. Martinez is faster than Tommie Frazier ever was and, if my memory serves me correct, is a statistically better thrower. Frazier had a 48% completion percentage in 1995. Can you imagine the uproar if Taylor threw for that low of a percentage? It wasn't that big of the issue - we didn't pass that much then. It was just as likely to get a 60 yard run as a 60 yard pass completion. Taylor doesn't play defense, so why would his numbers be different if the defense is better. The team win loss record may be better, but taylors numbers would stay the same.

no more than yours does.

I said Farve was a winner, regardless of the way he played, Taylor isn't a winner and never will be, he doesn't have it. He's playing out of position, and due to the fact the Huskers had no other option, he won the qb job by default. To even try and compare him to some of the all time qbs at Nebraska is a joke. The kids a player, just not a qb.

Thought about this a while back. Manziel is listed on rivals as being recruited by a different TAMU coach, but I would have to think that Zac, as team QB's coach, still recruited him a little bit. Sherman's and ZT's last year on the staff was Johnny's first year in college and Johnny redshirted that year. Even though he was on scout team, ZT probably interacted and coached him up a tiny bit. Two completely different QB's, but it's still cool to think about nonetheless. Semi-related note: I think Martinez should try the same QB guru that Manziel went to, George Whitfield. No knock on Steve Calhoun, but Johnny in his spring ball before he was a starter was as interception-prone and as bad of a passer as freshman & sophomore Martinez. Manziel went to Whitfield in the summer after that, and I watched Johnny from his first game and all of his subsequent nationally televised games and his improvement throughout the season was unbelievably fast. He was making throws against Alabama he wasn't making against Florida in their season opener. I have no qualms with Martinez as a passer this year, but his improvement seemed lesser than Johnny's, who is now a better passer than Taylor. If TM gave Whitfield a try he might be able to experience the same returns, but it's not absolutely necessary. Taylor can hang his hat on a job well-done this season. sorry for the man-crush on Manziel. He is already my favorite non-Husker player in college football history. You must be a young kid to have Manziel as your favorite player after just one yr. To compare him to some of the super stars that have come before him and played great for 3 to 4 yrs. this kid hasn't really done anything yet. No conference titles, NC or any type of hardware and you have him as the greatest in college football history. You sir have a very limited exposure to the real football. The kid had an amazing freshmen yr, won the heisman due to the fact wasn't any competition for the award this yr. You could say he won by default.We'll see what his encore is like in 13. My guess is he'll have his head handed to him. He won't sneak up on anyone next yr. TAMU gets lit up next yr, I see at least 4 losses, and a couple of close wins that could be losses. .... HAHA is anyone taking this guy seriously? Why is it that because by your own words, you have a man crush on him, making your view of him through rose colored glasses. Why is he so great, cause he beat alabama. One game doesn't make a player great, it means he had a great game, in the zone so to speak, If you've every suited up you'd know exactly what I mean. GBR

And you're basing this statement on what exactly? Tommy will start more than one game next yr because he'll earn it. The kid is a stud, can already pass better than Taylor, he's not as fast a runner, but he does have moves which taylor does not. Taylor runs like a track star, no forward lean and no lateral movement, and couldn't juke my sister. Taylor is a great athlete playing qb, while Tommy is going to be a great qb for us. I'm basing my opinion on players comments that are on the team and play with these guys everyday. Only time will tell of course, but let's face facts, Taylor is not a great qb and never will be. Eric took a team upon his back and got to the NC game before a defense could shut him down. Taylor gets shut down by every good team we play. I think back to all the great texass players that had great speed but really never amounted to anything. Taylor will be one of these types of players. I give credit where credit is due, and Taylor hasn't done anything to deserve to be mentioned in the same category as some of the Husker greats. I'm not referring to titles or conference championships. Taylor cannot take the team on his back and win a game. GBR 1HuskrFan... Did you watch any games this year? Because there's no possible way you could have with that comment you just made right there. I watched every game that was televised as I have for the past 50 yrs, Taylor runs like a track star, straight up, when he get tackled, he always goes up and backwards, that's why he fumbles so much. I would love to see him become a great qb, I just don't see the potential to do that.

I completely agree. Martinez is faster than Tommie Frazier ever was and, if my memory serves me correct, is a statistically better thrower. Frazier had a 48% completion percentage in 1995. Can you imagine the uproar if Taylor threw for that low of a percentage? Biggest difference I see is that Tommie was a winner period. Yeah, he had some tools, but so did Turner. As did Vince Ferragamo and David Humm. We've had some studs at the QB position, and Taylor is nothing other than a great athlete playing qb. It's the age old question. Would you rather have Peyton, Marino, or Farve? Answer is easy, take the winner, Farve. Doesn't mean he's the best, just means he's is a winner. I've got great news for you boys, Tommy Armstrong is a winner, and he'll start more than one game in 13. You heard it here first. This kid is a winner and he'll take NU to the next level. Book it. GBR I think you'd be surprised that the answer would vary quite a bit based on individual opinion. The individual opinion should be based on the facts, and to pick a qb that's a winner, should be paramount to picking a qb with great stats.