Knoxville Husker

Just win baby. AP is a joke but it's pretty obvious we have no quality wins. Therefore debating our position has little merit, but I will say UGA at #16 is way too high. Our schedule is very light in ranked teams the rest of the way. A win at Michigan will mean a little, but we'll be lucky to crack the top 10 by winning out with our weak SOS.

If Turner doesn't blow a perfectly thrown 50-yard TD right in his hands, we'd probably be seeing things a bit differently at halftime.

You lost me on that one, we are up 21-0 and are a 13-point favorite heading in.

I can live with the penalty but the ejection on SJB was atrocious. 2nd half: I've seen enough of RKIII to be honest. I'd like so see some more option with TA, play action, and keep up the downfield passing off that. Purdue will wear down easily, but some option trickery is what I thing will keep drives moving on the ground in Q3.

100% agree This offense is designed so it needs a legit QB running threat- it doesnt have to be one to go 50 yards with a tiny crease Like you I value consistency OK you have 1 big play for 75 yards, in the meantime you have 15 other plays that went for a grand total of 15 yards So you had 1 big play and a bunch of plays that didnt allow you to move the chains. Your average is 5.5 yards, not bad- but when measured another way, not very good How I used to figure out averages- how many times did we get 5 yards or more on a play (a bread and butter low risk play, higher risk plays had to hit a higher average) If we got 5 yards or more on say 85% of those plays we might have something like 200 yards on 30 plays But if we got say 40 yards 2 times and 20 yards another and then 100 yards on the other 27 attempts. Still have that 6.6 ypc average, BUT you had a bunch of 3 and outs too, my guess is you would be by this measurement, getting 5 yards on a play, maybe 20% of the time. I GUARANTEE you we are going to win the game where we can consistently get our 5+ yards we are moving the chains, getting first downs, running the clock. Especially with this team= defense problems. Obviously we are saying fumbles are constant. Your overanalyzing an obvious point. We fell in love with TM largely because of a rash of long TD runs his freshman year. Since then we see like 1-2 of those per year, and no consistent run threat at all. You hit the nail on the head at least, we MUST KEEP OUR DEFENSE OFF THE FIELD. One long scoring drive in the 3rd quarter would have completely changed the complexion of that UCLA game. We couldn't do it, got 4 TDs rained on us, and I blamed the offense almost as much as the D. The D is absurd, but the offense was supposed to be a given. Instead the offense was pathetic, when we could have been up 4 TDs at halftime since defense was doing its part. I will add that the offenses' stink a thon began about mid second quarter of that UCLA game, we only got 1.5 quarters out of the offense that game which is atrocious.

Wait a sec I thought you were defending TM feverishly in the aftermath of the UCLA game. Looks like TA has finally won you over, but I don't recall that happening very soon after the SDSU game. Welcome aboard anyway, let's hope its a great ride!

Amen brother I think you just captured the sentiments of Husker nation, even the fierce loyalists who can't let go of TM!

You must have misunderstood me. These comparisons based on SDSU are meaningless and will only be settled by seeing TA against good competition...that's all. For all I know he's a terrible qb, but from what I've seen so far that's highly unlikely and it's much more likely that he's similar to Scott Frost. TM puts up good stats against weak teams but he consistently looks overwhelmed against quality teams and doesn't even possess the ability that got him the starting job in the first place, which was his 4.3 speed....which hasn't even done him much good against the top teams anyway. I think it's a shame that fans have been put in the position of feeling they have to voice their opinion of what seems to be obvious. Maybe TA will lay an egg against the big boys....only one way to find out. Well put Hayseed and I can agree more, it's beyond obvious why many are ready for the next thing after TM and feel the sooner we get on with that the better. TA obviously has the tools to be everything we want in a QB. RK III is slower than molasses, so when the pressure comes he may be in trouble. Also he can't run our full playbook of QB runs, at least not based on his speed and the play calling we saw. I also felt TA threw a better ball than RK III, but it appears he is the best 3rd string QB we've had in a long time (or at least since Ganz).

Agree horrible post by skersfan can't relate at all to that perspective. What part of TA is way better than TM are some having so much trouble understanding?

I could QB this team to 9 wins so imagine TM can too. I could coach this team to 9 wins also for that matter.

The 3 and outs killed us against UCLA in the 2nd half, one long 3rd quarter TD drive and we are in the game until the end. Martinez is too inconsistent. If he's not breaking long runs he's a liability, and I've seen enough of his fumbles, bad sacks, and 3 int games whenever we play a decent defense. We need more mojo and "it" factor and TA is clearly that guy.

Tommy A throws a lot better than Tommie F ever did. So far I can give TF an edge on running ability, strength, and intangibles. However, the fact that we are even having this conversation should be an exciting situation. The funny part is the loyalists clinging to TM or that RK III should be the guy because he's a 5th year senior walk on. RK III can't run the full offense because he is very slow. That right there should be enough since it is pretty clear both guys can throw better than TM.

The playbook gets much smaller due to RK III's lack of mobility. TA can do it all and throws incredibly tight spirals with velocity, accuracy, and touch. Ultimately against tougher defenses we'll need TA's versatility and RK could struggle. A freshman that fumbled once (and we recovered) is no worse than the fumble or two that TM is prone to per game and his penchant for taking bad sacks. RK III made a bad error himself before halftime, trying to scramble in when he could have thrown the ball away and costing another shot at the TD. Anyone watching the game objectively should plainly see TA has far more God given ability and upside than Ron. The fact that he's our apparent future as a Frosh while RK III is a senior should be the final nail in the coffin of this debate.

Luckily we won't play one until November. TM or any other qb would have to be horrid to lose before then.

It's just blind loyalists defending TM's play.

I'd be fine with TM as our permanent clipboard holder.

Yeah man Tommy won't do a thing against the mighty Illini defense!

Thanks for this. I admire the tremendous loyalty of NU fans and appreciate TM's contributions as much as anyone, but we've reached our ceiling with him. That ceiling is losing badly in big games and will not be a conference championship. If same old same old is fine with you, TM is a fine choice but I aspire to more for our team and been counting the days until TA is our clearcut starter.

You guys used 3 different qb's en route to a Big 10 championship last year. I dont think youre in any position to lecture on qb changes, eh? I'm not being a dick. Just stating a fact. I like how every time I post someone has to turn it around and assume that 1) I'm being critical of Nebraska and 2) I think Wisconsin does things better. Get out of here with that, its a load of crap. Look at the times Nebraska and Wisconsin played today. Look at my friggin name. I didn't watch your game, I watched the Badgers. I don't know what's going on in the average Husker fan's mind or what happened in your game. I legitimately want to know what happened that makes seemingly everyone prefer Armstrong. My asking what happened is not me saying "You all are dumb, Wisconsin would never do that." I know we swap out QBs, hell we did it today. If you want my honest opinion on it I think, at least at UW, its a bad idea. It has never worked for us. I didn't come here to lecture but there you go. Touchy LOL! Summary: Armstrong is a beast, potential to be our best QB since Frazier, something a few of us thought but were largely ridiculed for it. We'll need to see what he can do against better competition to get a better idea of his ceiling but it appears high. However, we may be stuck with Martinez the rest of our usual 9-win season. RK III is obviously the #3 guy, but we're sitting real good at QB and much better than most thought. B1G championship picture remains a Michigan/Nebraska coin flip to be a two touchdown underdog to OSU.

Tommy is a better QB than Taylor. At this point anyone that states otherwise is in complete denial. Every part of his game is better. It's not even close. We told em didn't we Phoenix!

How dare you its Tommy not "Tommie"!!!

Yes we're gonna be one pumped up team and TA will impress. We were not up for the Jacks at all last time.

We won by two touchdowns and held them to 3 points, yet we didn't win based on actual play? What are you smoking it must be good stuff!

And Judson is an absolute powerhouse for has long as I can remember since I lived in S.A. in the 80s.

He's in the mold of these guys it appears. If so, all I can say is finally what took so long!?! (in addition to being stoked)