FrantzHardySwag

Yeah if Trev makes a change it probably won’t be the immediate home run people are hoping for. It won’t be a Riley level turd either. It’ll be a coach with a nice resume that checks Trev’s boxes. The last AD that knew what qualities it took to win at Nebraska was TO. So if a change is needed I’m optimistic.

Nebraska, Tulane, KState, Texas, WV, Kansas - all had them in a one score game in the 4th Quarter. Feels like they’re gonna get burned before the playoff.

Oklahoma hasn’t looked impressive in both phases once this entire year.

KU out here trying to take one of our Moral Victories away from us.

“We’re looking for immediate impact guys” made me laugh. Yeah us and literally every other P5 program. What’s next, we’re trying to recruit the top prospects in the country, we’re trying to get the top players in the state.

Wrong list, haha. This is definitely not a possibly Frost replacement list...

I'm not disagreeing. Like I said, if Frost had proven he could win 8+ games at Nebraska, like the coaches fired at Texas, Tennessee, USC - we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Frost wouldn't be on the hot seat with a resume like Jones, Herman, Helton.

They exist. Guys at P5 schools who didn't get over .500 their first 4 years, and were kept 6+ years. Dan McCarney Bobby Johnson Greg Schiano Bill Curry Derek Mason Mike Stoops People can feel free to add to this list.

I get the comparison, but since 2017 all three of these programs have fired coaches that won 25+ games over a 3 year span. Frost would be more than safe if he had the resume of Herman, Helton or Jones. We aren't looking to fire a coach that has proven he can win 8+ games at this level - we're looking at firing a coach that is staring down the barrel of his 4th straight losing season. While the argument could be made those schools made a mistake by firing guys that are winning 7-9 games, that doesn't necessarily mean we would be making a mistake firing a guy who is winning 4-5 games.

I think that's an option, but the guy you bring in has to have everyone pumped and ready to open their wallets.

I'm sure Trev, who is fundraising on a 150 million dollar facility AND trying to plan a stadium re-vamp, has big time boosters wanting Frost fired and others wanting Frost to be on the sidelines next season (much like this board). Talk about a job I wouldn't want right now. I think Trev's safest move is to bring Frost back, and promise if a corner isn't turned in one calendar year from today - then they can have their pound of flesh. Just trying to picture myself in his shoes.

I could see him trading out Austin for our current OL analyst, Frank Verducci. Also make Verdu an analyst, and make Busch full time ST coach. So he's making coaching changes to keep Fans/AD happy - but not going outside his circle.

I don't think Lubick is a bad coach, but he was a bad hire. That was a golden opportunity for Frost to hire someone that would help him tweak his offense for the B1G. Instead Frost hired someone who believes in the identical offensive philosophy that he believes in. He didn't want an OC, he wanted a WR coach - and someone that wouldn't question his direction of the offense. This is the situation that makes skeptical that Frost will even make coaching changes on the offensive side of the ball.

No way Frost's ego allows him to have Herman come run his offense. No way Herman's ego allows him to come work under Frost. Herman would consider the HC gig, that's about the only way we see him in Lincoln.

Jim Leonhard would be a good choice if we were going the Coordinator route. Dude can build a B1G defense and doesn't need the blue chip talent to do it. Pair him with a competent OC and look out. Another benefit would be, it could possibly tank Wisconsin too. Bad news is he would leave for Wisconsin if and when that job opened up.

Martinez has led the Conf in rush attempts by a QB 3 of the last 4 years. The one year he didn't was last year when he was 2nd to Clifford, despite appearing in 2 less games. Frost simultaneously is running AM into the ground to the point he's been injured every season, all while not preparing a viable backup. If an injured QB impacts your gameplan, and you run your QB to the point of injury every season, and you don't have a viable backup plan - then you are a freaking idiot.

Usually you can juggle looking out for yourself AND the kids. This dude was 99% him, 1% the team and it shows.

Ultimately up to the coaches to know the players they coach. Just sharing what I heard on the radio about Betts situation.

Some BS more than others, that is for sure.

Damon Benning had someone close to Betts that emailed in to his show. Damon himself is close to Betts. It shed some light on why we're using him the way we are. It was an interesting listen. Supposedly Betts is in the doghouse for things (wasn't a shock to Benning or the Emailer) but they still play him out of necessity, but like you said there is really no rhyme or reason to when they play him. The emailer and Damon both agreed that this will stunt Betts' growth on and off the field, as he is the type of kid that has been used for his talent all his life, and using him for his talent while punishing him all at once will confuse him. They agreed it would be best to sit him completely and work with him on his shortcomings, then play him once it is all fixed. At the end of that convo my take away was, those close to Betts feel like this staff doesn't really know how to handle his situation. Kinda worries me.

I'm sure he preached team over self everyday...I'm sure he had rules in place to protect the team, that we're not convenient for each individual on that team - then the moment comes to practice what he preaches - and boom, he throws a tantrum and quits. S-H-I-T-T-Y leader. Feel bad for the kids on that team.

Would Herman take a job where he wouldn't have the reigns of the offense? Would Frost even want him? Would Lubick be okay with a demotion? Who are you firing to get a ST Coordinator? Like was discussed in the Staff Changes thread, Most likely we will have this staff run it back, as is - or an entirely new coaching staff altogether. Staff changes don't really seem to be in the cards this late in the game.

It makes things significantly more complicated for Trev. Will Frost even allow coaching changes? How small of a pool of candidates will they have due to the circumstances? The more I think about it, Trev doesn't seem like the type to force staff changes, and SF doesn't seem like the type to make staff changes. Is the most likely scenario us running this thing back with the exact same staff in place?

I agree, I wouldn't be surprised if Chins, Tuioti or Fish cashed in due to uncertainty at UNL as they will have offers on the table.