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https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/rapid-response-was-crucial-containing-1918-flu-pandemic what was done by the federal government in 1918-1919 that we didn’t do this time? from the article posted by the NIH. “If St. Louis had waited another week or two, they might have fared the same as Philadelphia, says the lead author on the first study, Richard Hatchett, M.D., an associate director for emergency preparedness at NIAID. Despite the fact that these cities had dramatically different outcomes early on, all the cities in the survey ultimately experienced significant epidemics because, in the absence of an effective vaccine, the virus continued to spread or recurred as cities relaxed their restrictions.” cities that had things under control, relaxed restrictions, and spread then continued. Unless you want to be locked down until an effective vaccine is commercially available, this is what happens with a highly contagious virus.

Since I use quick type on a mobile phone, I could care less about hitting the apostrophe button, but enjoy life’s little pleasures of pointing out grammar mistakes on messages boards and social media. Everyone has to have something that makes them feel proud.

What do you think the possibility is that the BIG had every intention to pull the plug on the season until all the fan backlash and more importantly, getting feedback from coaches/AD’s that they would explore a non BIG schedule if possible. If the BIG came to the conclusion that schools could legally do that and keep all the revenue without kicking some back to the conference HQ, they may have changed their thinking.

We don’t use the metric system so that’s different. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/positive-rate-daily-smoothed and be careful saying every other country is doing great now. Parts of Europe are spiking again. We can’t lock down forever, the virus has a 40% asymptomatic rate so it’s hard to stop solely based on testing, Sweden is now doing well with very limited lockdown measures, lots of research now looking at herd immunity being around 25-40% for Covid-19 and could Help explain some of the sudden drop off in hard hit areas (combined with broader use of masks, and population in those areas being more diligent). hope your more educated now. Your welcome

Well, I have to ration my data plan

My data is looking at, researching, and reading journals/case studies on Covid-19 reporting figures and how a country classifies a Covid-19 death in the US vs how they classify one in Canada, or India, or Russia, or Bolivia, UK or any other country that reports Covid-19 deaths. If you thinks it’s all the same then your crazy. and BTw..I didn’t say anything at all about case numbers. So why bring it up to me? I live in the US and disagree with you because your promoting a false narrative with comparing death numbers between countries without giving proper context into what constitutes a death to be considered a Covid-19 death.

Hi, condescendingly asking if I think backed up dead bodies is normal without acknowledging that what I said was factually correct is trying to make my post be something it’s not. So since you didn’t like what I posted, yet couldn’t refute its facts, you decided to try strawman it into me saying it’s normal. I don’t, it’s not, and it doesn’t mean healthcare systems are overrun. I work with many across the midwest, many physicians and surgeons with residency and fellowship colleagues across the south. Systems were stressed, not overwhelmed. If you would like to learn more, let’s take it another thread.

Nice strawman. You sure have a nasty habit of acting like I say things I never said.

By the way I never said pure freedom and your analogy didn’t quite hit the mark you were hoping. Glad I got to play

And now look into how each country classifies a death as a Covid-19 death. Your chart is basically comparing apples to oranges. It’s kinda equatable to Comparing each countries life expectancy to ours. We include every baby born, others include a baby that makes it at least 1 month, some 3 months etc... And including India and Russia doesn’t make sense. Might as well include China’s false numbers.

Do you understand what flattening the curve means? It is designed to prevent “exponential growth” as to not overwhelm a hospital system. mom sure you will notice that even in a flattened curve, growth does go up in the beginning until a plateau occurs, then a downturn. Does our chart of active cases look anything like the UM exponential growth curve?? I think not. As a country we have slowed the unchecked spread and every city that has been hit hard, has managed through any capacity challenges. Refrigerated trucks for dead bodies does not mean those propel died because of hospitals triaging who lives and who dies. It means the processing of dead bodies is backed up, not the care for the people prior to dying. Hope that helps you understand this a little more. And yes, each state should be deciding their own guidelines because it makes ZERO sense for SD, ND, NE, KS, MT, etc..to have total lockdowns of their economy with little to no community spread. If we really wanted to stop this at the beginning, then stopping interstate travel outside of shipping/transport would have been the way to go, yet legal challenges would have prevented this. NY basically seeded a majority of other state infection areas in the beginning. and Florida is the another perfect reason that each state presents its own issues. South Florida was by far and away the biggest problem area and they also had the longest lockdown in the beginning of the pandemic. Most other parts of FL held up relatively well at the states absolute worst point.

Ya good one. Let’s make the most outlandish law breaking example and run with that one to say we’re not a feee society.

Your making the exact mistake everyone else does when taking about this pandemic for the US. Yes, as a country we HAVE flattened any curve their might have been. INDIVIDUAL States have had spikes but the US as a whole has never been in danger of the health system being over run. Even at its peak in individual states, they have all been stressed but fine. stop looking at this from a national scale and begin looking at this from an individual county in each state standpoint.

We’re not told we have to do those things because we live in a free society for better or worse. We will never be a society that says you can’t leave your house.

And one point for those saying wait till spring when we have a vaccine. if the Covid-19 vaccine is anything like the flu vaccine then we all need to remember that the flu vaccine doesn’t completely stop the flu. It’s real point is to make flu related illness much less severe, decrease hospitalizations, and decrease spread. Millions still get the flu and tens of thousands still die each year.

It’s possible we could have done better, it’s also possible that in the long-run, the virus is going to make its way through most population centers no matter the mitigation. Europe is increasing, parts of Asia increasing, parts of South America increasing. There are a few papers in medical journals that are starting to look at the herd immunity levels for Covid-19 being 20-40% of the population. Many of the highly hit population centers reached that point and then saw a drastic downturn in case numbers. It’s a VERY contagious virus and it’s possible that it’s going to run it’s natural course at some point no matter the mitigation. Remember this, regardless of sports being played or not, the whole point of mitigation back in March and April was to spread out the infection numbers across many months. It was NOT to necessarily completely stop the virus.

Comparing a vast U.S. population and area that has many unique population centers to a small island with a total population half of NY is pretty dumb.

I understand logistics would be tough esp in a tight timeframe. I do wonder about and would love to see these conference presidents have a news conference and tell us why the risk of CTE, paralysis, is acceptable for these athletes, but possible exposure is Covid-19 is a bridge too far. Which will cause more long-term harm to a greater population of their student-athlete population.

These Presidents are awfully ignorant if they think having kids on campus and in dorms and going to house parties and bars is gonna make for any different outcome in infections than kids playing football or soccer, or whatever fall sport there is. the only difference is that most of the general student population will probably never even know they are infected because of asymptomatic cases or very slight illness that doesn’t get tested. As opposed to athletes who will constantly be tested and those cases would be caught. This is just a legal CYA. The bean counters are probably saying they could will lose more money by being sued if there is a bad outcome vs the revenue lost of canceling or moving to the spring.

What would prevent the school that want to play, to find other likeminded schools and come up with a schedule and sell that to a network and split the revenue? Something in the BIG bylaws preventing this type of scenario??

One problem we have when looking at COVID-19 is that too many people look at the national numbers. How many total deaths, infections, hospitalizations, etc...those don’t mean much in places where things are relatively under control(flat, slightly rising, slightly falling). even looking at this from a state level is misleading because density matters And most states have unique areas. Look at it from a county perspective. You take Texas like you cited and most infections are coming from a handful of counties.

It seems your just not comprehending things. Everything around a web makes a difference. Talent around him, head coach (biggest difference of anything), training, none of that is in disputed by me. What your failing to understand, is that the special QB’s elevate the play around them, they don’t play down to lesser talent around them. AM’s not gonna make Kade Warner be CeeDee Lamb, but he sure as heck shoukd make him be a better Kade Warner than a replacement level JoeQB would. Throw the ball on time, find the open tight end that was constantly running free. He shouldn’t consistently throw too late and hang Jd out to dry. He should give our RB and or Reciever every chance to be successful on a screen pass by hitting him in stride and on time. Turnovers should be limited to next to nothing on fourth quarter drives in one score games. All those little things matter and help get every ounce of talent out of the teammates he has. It’s the difference between a 2,200 yrd 12/10 season and a 3,000 yrd 20/5 season. All by controlling things he can control. And Yes. More talent makes things easier. no one disputes that.

Not sure what point your trying to make, but it’s whatever it is, it doesn’t seem to be working out. Masoli, not that great, Wilton a Michigan transfer not sure why he fits in, and Milton played exceptional without a ton of NFL talent returning from Frosh to sophomore year as has already been established. Herbert a first round NFL draft pick most likely. Oregon was good, UCLA not so much and Mckenzie elevated those around him. Got it. Also, Transfer QB’s are hit or miss. Some are Masoli and some are a Wilson. Shocker.

Smothers could redshirt, sit one and still have three to play. Luke could believe AM won’t last a season W/O injury and he will get his chance. It was just thinking out loud with no prediction.

I’m starting to wonder if AM will be named the starter as long as the competition is even somewhat close for 1 reason. AM is still a 3 for 2 guy and the coaches could believe that AM would just enter the transfer portal if not the starter instead of being back up while trying to win the job back. I dont think AM has to be the best, just close enough to justify starting him at the beginning and letting his game play dictate the next course of action. Just a random thought.