Bowfin

Okay, my wife said Pelini just publicly apologized to me, according to the World-Herald, so we're cool. For the record though, I didn't switch off the TV during the Ohio State game... Good talk, we can close this thread, as far as I'm concerned.

Yep, no doubt I'm ONE of them...didn't say it to my face, but like as Marvin Gaye used to say, "I heard it through the grapevine..." ... but that ain't the half of it...there's more than just me...were you a fan in 2011?...A Nebraska fan, in particular? ...if so, I got some bad, bad news for you...read it on dead spin, actually, so you might want to sit down, 'cause this is gonna hurt...

Oh, so kind of like, "You brought that on yourself! Now don't make me lose my temper again!" Good stuff here...

Well, since you said it first, I'm going to have to agree with you on this; you are a f'ing A-hole. Well then, I'm going to agree with what Pelini said about you as well. So put THAT in your pipe and smoke it, Mister, because we're two of a kind in Pelini's eyes!

Well, what else are we getting out of Bo for $2 million a year, besides feigned indignation, pouting, feeling sorry for ourselves, and a defense currently ranked in the top 100...

It must be, because I'm laughing so hard at this whole turn of events that my pants will never dry! Lighten up, Francis!

Bo's not "the team" for some of us...besides, haven't you heard, I'm an F'in A-hole...yep, since 2011...

So, Nebraska fans can't burn their own seat that they bought, but it's okay for Bo to get paid a couple of million by those same fans and tell them to F off... ...okay, got it! Thanks and that will be added into equation for formulating our new standard!

...or anyone else who would have tried to post what Pelini said if they did it on this forum? No right or wrong answer, I'm just trying to get a feel for what our standard is in the Husker nation. I know it would fly on Shaggybevo...

I'm sure Bo doesn't care if everybody knows what he thinks of them. Bo isn't the kind of guy to say one thing to a person's face and another thing when they aren't around. Bo's a stand up kind of guy and says what he says and means what he means...and if we don't like it, well then, F all of us F'in A-holes, we can kiss his F'in @ss... ...although my mom is a Husker fan, so I really wish he wouldn't say things like that about her any more...but again, I'm preaching whatever you are down with, that's okay with me. We all love our moms at a different level, I'm sure. Not everybody needs to love their mom more than Bo...

Yeah, but Osborne kept his mouth shut and instead concentrated on putting a better team on the field, so we all lived happily ever after. I realize that performances like the UCLA come at a price, and how much and how many trash talking tirades one is willing to accept to get curb stomped by UCLA is a personal preference, so mine might not line up with yours, and I'm okay with that.

Speaking as a Nebraska fan, Pelini shouldn't have said that about me unless he was willing to say it to my face. Then again, my standards of behavior and decorum might not match whatever the rest of you are willing to accept. I am glad I found out what and how he really thinks, regardless of how it came about. The tone of this thread is akin to a wife getting mad at the person who tells her that hubby has been cheating on her for years...but again personal preferences can't be debated, it's whatever yuo are okay with...

Tom Osborne said "dad gum" once and brought home 3 National Championships to balance it out...but I guess if Bo is Nebraska's new standard, we'll go with it.

Not exactly the same, as we don't pay Tommy $2 million to represent the University...and Tommy didn't tell me to "F" off...

Here's the answer: Bo is a surly, stand-offish, secretive, hot tempered coach whose defense (which is his self admitted strength) currently ranks 105th out of 123 teams. His offense ranks 53rd (thank you, Southern Miss!). One can get by in life either on personality/people skills or on results, but having neither is usually a career killer. Tommie put hardware in the trophy case. Ron Brown himself said that Tommie sacrificed being a popular player for being a leader. I was at a talk where Ron Brown said Tommie, as a freshman, yelled at the Senior offensive line to "...shut up and listen when you are in MY huddle!" That probably explains why Tommie never was a team captain, but Tommie didn't need a title to be a leader, and if he didn't have everybody's heart, he had their respect, at least on Saturdays. Tommie is a connection between the greatest years at Nebraska and the present. Bo is a connection between the past suckage of the Callahan years and the present suckage. I pick what Tommie represents, not Bo...but as I said, Bo lifting the Big 10 Conference trophy at the end of the year would make all the difference in the world. That's all...just produce.

...at least he could get to a big bowl game. Now we get beat in Bowl games held the first weekend of December, instead of on New Year's day.

Tommie has a lot more pictures of himself in Nebraska holding trophies and such than Bo does... ...just for the record...

So... ...you're saying what we have now is what we want?

Boy, that's a killer. However, it is not a mixed metaphor it is a metaphor that flew over your head. When Daddy takes the keys away, then one is demoted back to riding his bike back and forth to work. In Bo's case, that work is probably DB coach at Youngstown State. No keys to the car = riding your bike. Get it?...even a little?.

WHY??? Tell you what, I will see if I can round up some recordings of the last half dozen games Nebraska played. You watch them, play close attention to how Nebraska does, and then see if you still feel the need to ask that question. As for keeping Tommie Frazier around instead of Bo, that is nothing more than a personal choice: I like people with attitudes that have produced over people with attitudes that haven't. If Bo can lift a conference trophy at the end of the season, then all is well.

One can be a prick, even an open prick, and still be right. Pelini better figure out (very soon) what Callahan never did: Just because Daddy Osborne gave you the keys to the car, that doesn't mean you own it. Pelini is fast on his way to riding his bike back to Ohio.

...or maybe NU does need someone like Tommy Frazier to call out the players and coaches, but someone is not intelligent enough (or too arrogant) to see it. I would rather see Bo go and Tommy stick around.

That's great...but Bo used up all of his eligibility, so what he knows takes a back seat to what his players know. So the question becomes can Bo coach football? Teaching (and coaching is teaching) isn't about storage of information, it about moving information from the teacher to the student. Bo should aspire to being a delivery truck, not a warehouse. It isn't how much knowledge or skills Bo acquires or already has, it's about how much he can pass on to his players. Bo never misses a chance to tell us all that he knows defense when He wins, and then tells us that his players can't do what they need to do when THEY lose. Bo might be a defensive genius, but it seems he can't coach defense.

My sons stopped being kids at the age of 16. I suppose you could make the argument that young men are kids until the age of 18. But a 21 year old male is NOT a kid. Playing college football for a man 18-22 years of age is exactly like working in a meatpacking plant or factory for a man 18-22 years of age. You screw up and you get yelled at by someone. If you don't like getting yelled at when you screw up, then walk on out of the place or stop screwing up. Now, if you are getting yelled at because your boss screws up, then sound off like you have a pair and put people straight, OR sit their and take it. Jack during the spring game was a kid. Everybody else out on that field in a football uniform is a man. I don't buy into this extend childhood reaching to 30 somethings.

The dig against Pac 12 Teams had always been that they were talented, fast, flashy, but soft. Hit their players hard a couple of plays, and they were looking to avoid contact the rest of the game and hearing foot steps. Having said that, it still might be true. We just need to find someone (else) to hit their players hard a couple of plays and see...