Treand3

Agree. Think Buford and Webb look more like CBs.

Would agree here. In HS they had options and likely feel the same way. It usually gets better if the program is winning big bowls and sending players to the NFL, so waiting their turn is justified in their mind.

I think that aspect is important to allow Nebraska to have a complete roster that lacks holes. Since being in the B1G, we've been guilty of retaining players for their entire eligibility even though they were never going to significantly contribute, I can look at most of these kids and see their potential down the line. If they don't reach their projection, they will be eventually asked to move on, which is different from other staffs. If it's a non 4 star prospect that turns out to be a starter by their RS So season I'm good with that. I feel if Nebraska had it's way, it would employ a mix of RS Jrs and Srs and talented true Sophomores and Freshmen as contributors. As for the 4 star DBs, once we start winning they will come even more abundantly and stay for that matter. My philosophy is, you don't need them to reach Indy but you do need them to win that 1st Saturday of December. It's been proven time and time again.

I too feel there is some unfair projection on what this class will offer down the road (Even though it's not over), and Nebraska's ability to compete at least within the division. No it might not have the star power of its succeeding classes, but we are also deprived of our most valuable asset in recruiting, on campus visits due to the pandemic. No we don't have a 10-2 regular season to help alleviate things like Minnesota or Wisconsin in a situation like this(Even thought they both recruit a bit different than we do), but I also think we can get much more out of a strong season than all our divisional counterparts. I don't think we are all that far off from showing tangible improvement, call me crazy, but Nebraska's 4-7 and 5-7 seasons are the result of finite things that can be fixed. Last year I can only think of a couple games where Nebraska looked like they didn't belong on the field with the other team(Might even debate one). Every other game was a mistake here, a mistake there and all of a sudden you're staring at a loss. All in all, taking a step back on paper and not signing a sexy class isnt the worst thing in the world, especially when we can't use the visit experience, long as the signees get developed and can fit within the team's framework. We have solid options at LB, OL, RB, WR and QB that aren't going to be counted on to produce right away(That's for the '19 and '20 class to do) and we're almost never guaranteed to undersign like Pelini constantly did or in Riley's '16 class. Now if we're still recruiting top 30 classes after this cycle, with the benefit of vists, then I might agree with some here, but we don't need top 15-20 classes to get to Indy, we do to legitimately challenge OSU(Not hoping for them to have an off game or them overestimating their opposing team because they beat them earlier in the the year) and have a shot at the CFP, but not to beat Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota and Purdue imho. Apologies for the long post.

Right. We lose Stoll after '20. Then Vokolek and Allen the following year.

Truly been the difference in not being a solid team.

I sure did. From all accounts, KG looks ready to get his career in Lincoln started. Not worried about him leaving whatsoever. Looking for him to being one of our next All Conference LB selections. Greene is a country boy from North Florida and doesn't have some of the high maintenance tendencies the others have, for better or for worse.

He's got the size the staff is looking for at ILB too.

Absolutely. Our biggest selling point goes against social distancing guidelines. When vists are allowed we'll be in a better spot. Wisconsin, as I said before, is benefiting from the last 3 years on field, a strong instate pool and early identification. So theyve been able to fill their class early with prospects that happen to be 4 star caliber. We may not catch them this year but I really don't feel it will be the norm.

Has above average length for his size. Long arms and plays bigger than what he is listed. Then you have guys like Jackson that is a legit 6'3" but played a lot smaller than he needed to and it cost him getting drafted.

If anything, it will be Sullivan and NPG battling it out. Sullivan's biggest advantage is that he isnt recovering from surgery like NPG is. I do think NPG has a much bigger role for '21 though.

Steadily increasing size at WR. Will be a bigger team across the board soon.

Also like Steinkuhler and Jurgens. Both shut their recruiting down and didn't field many offers, in spite of their ability.

Yep

With today's news, the probability of him being a part of the class has went down considerably imo.

I guess he could. Sitting out makes much more sense to me. He's a 3 for 4 and playing him in '20 doesn't help with balancing the roster imho. We lose Jaimes, Wilson, Farniok and Gaylord after this season, and we can probably count on some members from our '19 class moving on, be it by their choice or the coaches. It may seem counterintuitive but we don't really need him this year for better or for worse. Edit: The 4 game rule would not apply here since he took a RS for '19 if I can recall. Guess we'll agree to disagree here.

Right. Had we gotten him, he wouldn't be on scholarship until next year, when it would be available.

Not really. We only have one scholarship available for the 2020 season and that will go to Jospeh if he qualifies. So it makes sense for him to sit out, get in S&C and learn the blocking schemes.

Yep, unless he gets a waiver to play immediately. I sort of think he'll sit out so he can put on scholarship next year.

Basically but much of it is our own doing.

I think this is going to happen.

This isn't completely directed at you but you speak on something that has been on my mind. For me, its not so much seeing who develops better versus Iowa and Wisconsin. Its more so being able to develop what we get in general. Hasn't been a lot of that this past decade. Both of them recruit in a away where they aren't going to make a lot of top lists of blue chip prospects, as it comes with a certain game/circumstances that they don't want to engage in, risk not filling their needs and not filling much of their classes by seasons start since they like to use their time focusing on in season affair. Particularly, Wisconsin has been closing on higher end kids but many of them are either: in state/neighboring state, commit early due to WI scouting or have an existing connection to the program already. Iowa has seen an increase in their in state talent. Conversely, I feel our ceiling is a bit higher than both as a recruiter, so if all things on the field were equal, Nebraska would be far and away more capable of adding that high end talent you speak of in larger quantities imho. For Nebraska currently, this class may not reach last year or the year before, but it should have filled needs, but I still want to see what happens if there are visits. Going forward it won't take much to get into the top 20 as long as there are tangible results to support.

GA in the building..Comes from an excellent program.

We have one, maybe two spots left on the OL. Doubt they'd use them on him, no offense.

This is a walk on offer FWIW