Utah_Husker Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Oh my gosh, I think we're all actually on the same page here. Quote Link to comment
CalHusker Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 I don't know if its been done, but wouldn't it be a cool documentary to follow the "recruiting trail" of a college trying to get some kid to commit. It would be interesting to see the process work, how they identify players, what they send them, what they say to them, the official visits. We have a local paper where I live in Cali. that is following certain local recruits. One guy, Averell Spicer, is a big d-line/fullback out here. He visited Neb. and Ok. had him out for the Ok - Neb. game. Basically is taking his time doing a full evaluation before he commits. He said Neb. was at his house already, followed by Fl. st. He seems to be leaning toward USC or Fl ST. Quote Link to comment
WisnerHusker Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Recruiting experts. Look at what teams finished in the top 5 in the country and then look where there recruiting classes rated. I don't think any of the top five team in the country had a recruiting class that was rated in the top 10. Look at Texas, they have year in year out, the best recruiting class and can not win the big one. Callahan is dreaming if he thinks recruiting will solve all his problems. He needs to spend sometime looking at his staff and what changes need to be made there. WE NEED SOME NEW COACHES, AT LEAST DEFENSIVELY. Quote Link to comment
Pedro Guerrero Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Recruiting experts. Look at what teams finished in the top 5 in the country and then look where there recruiting classes rated. I don't think any of the top five team in the country had a recruiting class that was rated in the top 10. Look at Texas, they have year in year out, the best recruiting class and can not win the big one. Callahan is dreaming if he thinks recruiting will solve all his problems. He needs to spend sometime looking at his staff and what changes need to be made there. WE NEED SOME NEW COACHES, AT LEAST DEFENSIVELY. 2002 1. Texas 2. Ten. 3. Georgia 4. FSU 5. Ohio ST 6. Auburn 7. OU 13. Usc 40. Neb 2003 1. LSU 2. Florida 3. USC 4. OU 5. Miami 11. Auburn 42. Neb 2004 1. USC 2. LSU 3. FSU 4. Miami 5. Michigan 8. OU 21. Auburn 27. Neb These are from Rivals. It looks to me that the top 3 teams in the nation are usually in the top 10 or right around there. Quote Link to comment
Benard Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Recruiting experts. Look at what teams finished in the top 5 in the country and then look where there recruiting classes rated. I don't think any of the top five team in the country had a recruiting class that was rated in the top 10. Look at Texas, they have year in year out, the best recruiting class and can not win the big one. Callahan is dreaming if he thinks recruiting will solve all his problems. He needs to spend sometime looking at his staff and what changes need to be made there. WE NEED SOME NEW COACHES, AT LEAST DEFENSIVELY. 2002 1. Texas 2. Ten. 3. Georgia 4. FSU 5. Ohio ST 6. Auburn 7. OU 13. Usc 40. Neb 2003 1. LSU 2. Florida 3. USC 4. OU 5. Miami 11. Auburn 42. Neb 2004 1. USC 2. LSU 3. FSU 4. Miami 5. Michigan 8. OU 21. Auburn 27. Neb These are from Rivals. It looks to me that the top 3 teams in the nation are usually in the top 10 or right around there. And I'm guessing we were right around them numbers in the 90's aswell. Quote Link to comment
Pedro Guerrero Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 All I know is looking at the previous years top 10 classes it can't hurt to bring in th big name kids. Is it a guarantee for success? Who knows but it does seem to help. Quote Link to comment
Utah_Husker Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Even I agree that Frank wasn't the best recruiter. But I also agree with Benard that the coaches he brought on in 2003 are great recruiters, and would have made a huge difference. They would have at least returned the recruiting to the level it was in the 90s (which wasn't all that high). Newearthhusker, where did you get the info for the Husker class ranks for 2002-2004? I looked a while for them, but could only find the top 25. Quote Link to comment
Pedro Guerrero Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Even I agree that Frank wasn't the best recruiter. But I also agree with Benard that the coaches he brought on in 2003 are great recruiters, and would have made a huge difference. They would have at least returned the recruiting to the level it was in the 90s (which wasn't all that high). Newearthhusker, where did you get the info for the Husker class ranks for 2002-2004? I looked a while for them, but could only find the top 25. On rivals after the top 25 it says next below the list. Quote Link to comment
Utah_Husker Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 aaaah, I see. Quote Link to comment
DJR313 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Recruiting experts. Look at what teams finished in the top 5 in the country and then look where there recruiting classes rated. I don't think any of the top five team in the country had a recruiting class that was rated in the top 10. Look at Texas, they have year in year out, the best recruiting class and can not win the big one. Callahan is dreaming if he thinks recruiting will solve all his problems. He needs to spend sometime looking at his staff and what changes need to be made there. WE NEED SOME NEW COACHES, AT LEAST DEFENSIVELY. 2002 1. Texas 2. Ten. 3. Georgia 4. FSU 5. Ohio ST 6. Auburn 7. OU 13. Usc 40. Neb 2003 1. LSU 2. Florida 3. USC 4. OU 5. Miami 11. Auburn 42. Neb 2004 1. USC 2. LSU 3. FSU 4. Miami 5. Michigan 8. OU 21. Auburn 27. Neb These are from Rivals. It looks to me that the top 3 teams in the nation are usually in the top 10 or right around there. And I'm guessing we were right around them numbers in the 90's aswell. Year Rank 1991 10 1992 28 1993 14 1994 20 1995 8 1996 4 1997 19 This information courtesy of sports illustrated's website SI.COM Quote Link to comment
Benard Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Recruiting experts. Look at what teams finished in the top 5 in the country and then look where there recruiting classes rated. I don't think any of the top five team in the country had a recruiting class that was rated in the top 10. Look at Texas, they have year in year out, the best recruiting class and can not win the big one. Callahan is dreaming if he thinks recruiting will solve all his problems. He needs to spend sometime looking at his staff and what changes need to be made there. WE NEED SOME NEW COACHES, AT LEAST DEFENSIVELY. 2002 1. Texas 2. Ten. 3. Georgia 4. FSU 5. Ohio ST 6. Auburn 7. OU 13. Usc 40. Neb 2003 1. LSU 2. Florida 3. USC 4. OU 5. Miami 11. Auburn 42. Neb 2004 1. USC 2. LSU 3. FSU 4. Miami 5. Michigan 8. OU 21. Auburn 27. Neb These are from Rivals. It looks to me that the top 3 teams in the nation are usually in the top 10 or right around there. And I'm guessing we were right around them numbers in the 90's aswell. Year Rank 1991 10 1992 28 1993 14 1994 20 1995 8 1996 4 1997 19 This information courtesy of sports illustrated's website SI.COM So we had two bad years when darlington and tenopir got to old to recruit. Quote Link to comment
Armistead Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Rivals is over-rated....I don't understand the Idea of paying for info you can get on a google seach...also, if you guys are goin to pay for the crap info...then don't bash it, a good recruitin class shows on the field.....when we recruited in the top 20 we won...when we did'nt we lost. If any of you arm chair QB think its a bad thing that BC wants to land blue chippers, then you really have lost touch with reality...as far as BC needing coaches to take over the Defense, let me ask you one question....WHERE is the talent on Defense?????????????? There in not one NFL caliber player on the team...not one...and don't say Herian, please, he has a bum wheel....and Ruud will never make it in the NFL....Hell Ruud would not evan start on most of Osborne's teams....but I'm sure that means nothing to the BC haters.....go suck on Crabby and throw darts at BC...I'm goin to work. Quote Link to comment
Eric the Red Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 To Dave: I meant exception. Sorry, my dyslexia gets the best of me sometimes! To newearthhusker: The last I checked, Solich has a Big 12 ring, and a couple of BCS games, a couple of accomplishments that callahan will never get! As far as Beck, I heard Jeremy Crabtree say that this is a down year for qb's, and Beck has not performed up to expectations. Said he has been outplayed by qb's that were thought to be lesser quality. Beck's stats were down because his team was better. He didn't need to throw as much and he ran more this year. Beck is the real deal. Quote Link to comment
AR Husker Fan Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Recruiting experts. Look at what teams finished in the top 5 in the country and then look where there recruiting classes rated. I don't think any of the top five team in the country had a recruiting class that was rated in the top 10. Look at Texas, they have year in year out, the best recruiting class and can not win the big one. Callahan is dreaming if he thinks recruiting will solve all his problems. He needs to spend sometime looking at his staff and what changes need to be made there. WE NEED SOME NEW COACHES, AT LEAST DEFENSIVELY. 2002 1. Texas 2. Ten. 3. Georgia 4. FSU 5. Ohio ST 6. Auburn 7. OU 13. Usc 40. Neb 2003 1. LSU 2. Florida 3. USC 4. OU 5. Miami 11. Auburn 42. Neb 2004 1. USC 2. LSU 3. FSU 4. Miami 5. Michigan 8. OU 21. Auburn 27. Neb These are from Rivals. It looks to me that the top 3 teams in the nation are usually in the top 10 or right around there. And I'm guessing we were right around them numbers in the 90's aswell. Year Rank 1991 10 1992 28 1993 14 1994 20 1995 8 1996 4 1997 19 This information courtesy of sports illustrated's website SI.COM So we had two bad years when darlington and tenopir got to old to recruit. But the point is, those two bad years were about the same as Solich's best years. In other words, our recruiting in the '90s was far better than it was under Solich. Quote Link to comment
Pedro Guerrero Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 So we had two bad years when darlington and tenopir got to old to recruit. I guess Solich didn't have a hand in those classes did he? You can say those other guys got to old to recruit but Frankie is just as old as they are. Bottom line Frankie couldn't recruit. Quote Link to comment
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