Tebow Wins Heisman

[DJR313]

 

It's supposed to go to the best player on one of the best teams.

 

 

It doesn't stipulate that anywhere on the award. Paul Hornung won the Heisman on a losing team(although it was Notre Dame).

[admo]

No one really separated themselves from the pack. I'm okay with Tebow winning it. He never really had a subpar or bad game.

 

I thought Adrian Peterson should have won the 04 Heisman over Leinart (as a freshmen) since he was the best player in the country that season.

[Pedro Guerrero]

I think it is funny that this guy is now "The Best Player" in college football. I remember when he threw his baby fit at the Elite 11 some of the people around here were saying who they would rather have Freeman over Tebow. I wonder if they are still saying that.

 

Tebow had a good year, however this is one of the weakest Heisman classes EVER. IMO. This whole year has produced pretty ho-hum performances both by single players and by teams. None of the 4 guys there really made you go WOW. It will be interesting to see if this guy can win 1 more. I'm sure with the Media love that he and Urban Meyer receive it is highly possible. When was the last time the winner was on a team that had 3 losses? I would almost guess it would have been Barry Sanders in 1988. This award has turned into a joke and really holds no merit with me what so ever.

 

 

Why no love for the RB out of Central Florida? 2400 yards rushing and he isn't even invited. However Troy Davis played on a terrible team and he went back to back years.

 

I think if any Nebraska QB came up with the stats that Tebow had there would be some on here calling him a GOD.

 

The award is for best player not best player on best team award. By the way who would you have picked on the top rated team for Heisman?

 

Blame ESPN and other news media for not getting out the player for UCF was having that good of year.

Don't think I've even seen any highlights of him or heard of him until a couple of weeks ago.

 

Glenn Dorsey is the best player in the nation if you ask me. If I had a vote I would have voted for him or the 2nd best player I saw this year Michael Crabtree from Texas Tech. If you think Tebow is actually the best player in the nation then good for you. He is good there is no question about it but he is not the best player in the nation. Crap I probably wouldn't even have him be the 1st Team All American QB.(Crouch wasn't either when he won the Heisman)

 

As far as Kevin Smith goes the guy led his team to a 10-3 season with over 2700 total yards. He should have been invited to the stupid ESPN show on Saturday.

 

I also never said it had to go to the best player on the best team. I just think that if Tebow played for any other team the Media Darling and the wasn't coached by every ESPN strokers favorite Urban Meyer he wouldn't have been there, let alone won the thing.

 

You are right though if a NU QB put up the stats Tebow did people would love him. However if he led his NU team to 3 losses(all being to the BEST teams they played) he would be considered Jammal Lord.(passing stats aside) So maybe he wouldn't be considered great by most.

 

Also minus the TD's weren't Brad Smith's stats better then Tebow's and he wasn't ever mentioned for the Heisman. Just something to think about.

Brad Smith

YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT

2005 237 399 2304 59.4 5.77 50 13 9 12 114.14

 

TIM TEBOW

YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT

2007 217 317 3132 68.5 9.88 66 29 6 12 177.85

I would say that is quite a difference between the two.

 

 

 

Well td's are the reason he is on the field for and not the stats. You can have all the stats in a game you wants and if you lose because you couldn't get the ball in the end zone that doesnt add up to much.

 

I disagree that Crouch wasnt the best player that year. Solich turned the offense into a one man game and that guy was Crouch. You replace him with any QB on that offense and the record is a lot worse. Even during the Colorado game if you look at his stats he still had a good game, but because the defense couldnt stop the Colorado running game he had no shot at winning the game.

 

What I couldn't believe is that a few of the ESPN guy didnt even have McFadden on their ballot.

 

With Smith that year you also have to add on 1300 rushing yards and with Tebow it is 800. What does it mean? Who knows.

 

I never said Crouch shouldn't have won the Heisman, I said even though he won it he wasn't the 1st Team All American QB. That was Grossman and Crouch got All Purpose or something to that effect. Crouch was far and away the Most Outstanding Player that year. No single player has meant more to a team in recent history then Crouch did to that 01 team.

 

So if you look at TD's then Kevin Smith led the nation in scoring as well as rushing. Once again why wasn't this kid invited?

 

Also I agree that anybody that didn't have McFadden on their ballots is a moron. All you had to do is watch that guy and realize how much he meant to that team.(similar to Crouch IMO) If he played for USC or ND he would have won at least one of the last 2 years.IMO

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I think it is funny that this guy is now "The Best Player" in college football. I remember when he threw his baby fit at the Elite 11 some of the people around here were saying who they would rather have Freeman over Tebow. I wonder if they are still saying that.

 

Tebow had a good year, however this is one of the weakest Heisman classes EVER. IMO. This whole year has produced pretty ho-hum performances both by single players and by teams. None of the 4 guys there really made you go WOW. It will be interesting to see if this guy can win 1 more. I'm sure with the Media love that he and Urban Meyer receive it is highly possible. When was the last time the winner was on a team that had 3 losses? I would almost guess it would have been Barry Sanders in 1988. This award has turned into a joke and really holds no merit with me what so ever.

 

 

Why no love for the RB out of Central Florida? 2400 yards rushing and he isn't even invited. However Troy Davis played on a terrible team and he went back to back years.

 

I think if any Nebraska QB came up with the stats that Tebow had there would be some on here calling him a GOD.

 

The award is for best player not best player on best team award. By the way who would you have picked on the top rated team for Heisman?

 

Blame ESPN and other news media for not getting out the player for UCF was having that good of year.

Don't think I've even seen any highlights of him or heard of him until a couple of weeks ago.

 

Glenn Dorsey is the best player in the nation if you ask me. If I had a vote I would have voted for him or the 2nd best player I saw this year Michael Crabtree from Texas Tech. If you think Tebow is actually the best player in the nation then good for you. He is good there is no question about it but he is not the best player in the nation. Crap I probably wouldn't even have him be the 1st Team All American QB.(Crouch wasn't either when he won the Heisman)

 

As far as Kevin Smith goes the guy led his team to a 10-3 season with over 2700 total yards. He should have been invited to the stupid ESPN show on Saturday.

 

I also never said it had to go to the best player on the best team. I just think that if Tebow played for any other team the Media Darling and the wasn't coached by every ESPN strokers favorite Urban Meyer he wouldn't have been there, let alone won the thing.

 

You are right though if a NU QB put up the stats Tebow did people would love him. However if he led his NU team to 3 losses(all being to the BEST teams they played) he would be considered Jammal Lord.(passing stats aside) So maybe he wouldn't be considered great by most.

 

Also minus the TD's weren't Brad Smith's stats better then Tebow's and he wasn't ever mentioned for the Heisman. Just something to think about.

Brad Smith

YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT

2005 237 399 2304 59.4 5.77 50 13 9 12 114.14

 

TIM TEBOW

YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT

2007 217 317 3132 68.5 9.88 66 29 6 12 177.85

I would say that is quite a difference between the two.

 

 

 

Well td's are the reason he is on the field for and not the stats. You can have all the stats in a game you wants and if you lose because you couldn't get the ball in the end zone that doesnt add up to much.

 

I disagree that Crouch wasnt the best player that year. Solich turned the offense into a one man game and that guy was Crouch. You replace him with any QB on that offense and the record is a lot worse. Even during the Colorado game if you look at his stats he still had a good game, but because the defense couldnt stop the Colorado running game he had no shot at winning the game.

 

What I couldn't believe is that a few of the ESPN guy didnt even have McFadden on their ballot.

 

With Smith that year you also have to add on 1300 rushing yards and with Tebow it is 800. What does it mean? Who knows.

 

I never said Crouch shouldn't have won the Heisman, I said even though he won it he wasn't the 1st Team All American QB. That was Grossman and Crouch got All Purpose or something to that effect. Crouch was far and away the Most Outstanding Player that year. No single player has meant more to a team in recent history then Crouch did to that 01 team.

 

So if you look at TD's then Kevin Smith led the nation in scoring as well as rushing. Once again why wasn't this kid invited?

 

Also I agree that anybody that didn't have McFadden on their ballots is a moron. All you had to do is watch that guy and realize how much he meant to that team.(similar to Crouch IMO) If he played for USC or ND he would have won at least one of the last 2 years.IMO

 

Tried to find rushing yards and td's they got but came up blank. My guess is Tebow would have had more td's so his td ratio to Smith would have been incredible.

 

Like I said no one in the north probably even knew the kind of season Kevin Smith had and was left off a lot of votes. ESPN has only one cause per year and Colt Brennan was that cause.

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Tebow's Heisman