SEC offered OU and A&M

[Chucktown Husker]

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I know we all knew this, but man I would've loved to cheer both of them on in the SEC.

[Street Novelist]

OU turned down the SEC's offer because Texas wasn't offered. Did anyone catch that line? unbelievable!!!

[Lil' Red]

I think this could explain why Texas turned down the Pac-10. A&M not going would be a drawback of joining the Pac-10 and could possibly have been the deal breaker.

[Danny Bateman]

Read between the lines, guys. Real story: OU started to get tired of feeling like Texas' b*tch in all the conference expansion stuff. OU is the less hot friend of the queen bee girl that everyone wants to get with. It's just OU tooting their own horn to make themselves feel good. This is basically OU saying "Yeah, well... Texas is good and all, but the SEC didn't want them, so..."

[CarlFence]

They are idiotic for not accepting that offer. Get out from under Texas' shadow, Texas would still keep that rivalry, it could only have increased prestige and income for all those involved. aTm needs out of debt, too.

[GMoose]

Why would OU want to leave a 10 team Big 12? They beat Texas, they go to the BCS. They don't even have to worry about getting upset in a CCG.

[Mike N]

Absolutely right! And the other unanswered question here is were OU and A&M offered individual invites to the SEC, or where they to be a pair?

 

Texas (the university) made it clear that if A&M bailed, there would be no more games...or contact, for that matter...between the two athletic departments. It also would have created a lot of bad blood between the institutions more than, even now, exists. OU did not want to go down that path, as giving up the annual game with UT would have been a big hit in the pocketbook. That, more than likely, would have happened had OU bolted for the SEC.

 

And UT did NOT want to be seen as breaking up TWO big games, both UT/OUT and UT/A&M.

 

OU turned down the SEC's offer because Texas wasn't offered. Did anyone catch that line? unbelievable!!!

 

Not at all...Don't think for a moment that OU loves UT. OU loves the game and the money that comes with it.

 

I think this could explain why Texas turned down the Pac-10. A&M not going would be a drawback of joining the Pac-10 and could possibly have been the deal breaker.

 

In a word, yes. Losing OU at the same time would have been hell, politically, and a huge financial hit for UT as well.

 

And folks, don't think that someone being someone's "b***h" has anything to do with this. With the possible (probable) exception of A&M, these questions come down to money, plain and simple. What's the best deal for us, the athletes, and the University (no matter which one) as a whole.

 

A&M, well, that's a whole 'nother story..............

[Coqui]

 

And folks, don't think that someone being someone's "b***h" has anything to do with this. With the possible (probable) exception of A&M, these questions come down to money, plain and simple. What's the best deal for us, the athletes, and the University (no matter which one) as a whole.

 

Can't vouch for the athletes, but every one of the other factors screamed Big 10.

[Mike N]

 

And folks, don't think that someone being someone's "b***h" has anything to do with this. With the possible (probable) exception of A&M, these questions come down to money, plain and simple. What's the best deal for us, the athletes, and the University (no matter which one) as a whole.

 

Can't vouch for the athletes, but every one of the other factors screamed Big 10.

 

No, nothing screamed Big 10. It screamed SEC, to the Regents (which were ready to bolt to the SEC) to the alums, and to the money people.

 

Athletes be d***ed.

[deedsker15]

 

And folks, don't think that someone being someone's "b***h" has anything to do with this. With the possible (probable) exception of A&M, these questions come down to money, plain and simple. What's the best deal for us, the athletes, and the University (no matter which one) as a whole.

 

Can't vouch for the athletes, but every one of the other factors screamed Big 10.

 

No, nothing screamed Big 10. It screamed SEC, to the Regents (which were ready to bolt to the SEC) to the alums, and to the money people.

 

Athletes be d***ed.

 

But if Oklahoma went to the SEC the money they lost from not playing texas would most certainly be made up for in the SEC...who wouldn't want to watch more OU-LSU, OU-Bama, and OU-Florida...easily get all that back and more...why not ditch texas for that...especially if aTm would have come with them...

[huKSer]

 

Texas (the university) made it clear that if A&M bailed, there would be no more games...or contact, for that matter...between the two athletic departments.

 

And you say that like its a bad thing!

 

Seriously on another subject: To Mike N, I have enjoyed having you on the board, your posts do give me another point of view. My question to you is is there a Texas message board similar to this one that (for the most part) is respectful? I tried ShaggyBevo but after the first couple of posts it turns into mud slinging, name calling childish ranting. Texaslonghornbbs is a tiny bit better, but maybe just because there is much less traffic, but there are more rational people who post there (JAYCAV for one)

[HuskerfaninOkieland]

 

And folks, don't think that someone being someone's "b***h" has anything to do with this. With the possible (probable) exception of A&M, these questions come down to money, plain and simple. What's the best deal for us, the athletes, and the University (no matter which one) as a whole.

 

Can't vouch for the athletes, but every one of the other factors screamed Big 10.

 

No, nothing screamed Big 10. It screamed SEC, to the Regents (which were ready to bolt to the SEC) to the alums, and to the money people.

 

Athletes be d***ed.

 

But if Oklahoma went to the SEC the money they lost from not playing texas would most certainly be made up for in the SEC...who wouldn't want to watch more OU-LSU, OU-Bama, and OU-Florida...easily get all that back and more...why not ditch texas for that...especially if aTm would have come with them...

 

Especially when SEC's revenue sharing is estimated to average just over $17M per school.

[jayhawk]

UT was not invited because they were not going to the SEC. Texas can go to any conference it wants. They are as desirable as anyone, maybe even Notre Dame, maybe even more. I think OU is a better fit than any school in the Big 12 for the SEC. I thin OU and OSU would have been great for the SEC, and A&M too. Texas would hate to lose both it's rivals and doesn't want Texas opened up for SEC recruiting. As for OU, they would rather just have to beat Texas and Maybe a Pac 10 school than win the SEC, that is a lot harder, so that is why none of it happened... this time... the Big 8/12 has been good for OU, they are in the title hunt all the time. Why make that overly hard to achieve and still get the money?

 

We will all be back at this in 5 or 10 years, who knows how it really ends...

[husker_99]

UT was not invited because they were not going to the SEC. Texas can go to any conference it wants. They are as desirable as anyone, maybe even Notre Dame, maybe even more. I think OU is a better fit than any school in the Big 12 for the SEC. I thin OU and OSU would have been great for the SEC, and A&M too. Texas would hate to lose both it's rivals and doesn't want Texas opened up for SEC recruiting. As for OU, they would rather just have to beat Texas and Maybe a Pac 10 school than win the SEC, that is a lot harder, so that is why none of it happened... this time... the Big 8/12 has been good for OU, they are in the title hunt all the time. Why make that overly hard to achieve and still get the money?

 

We will all be back at this in 5 or 10 years, who knows how it really ends...

 

Texas may be desirable but their attitude of having things their way won't go well when these other conferences are making more money than the Big 12 will leave them on the outside looking in. That's if Texas stays dominant, if they start having mediocre seasons then they won't be that desirable. The state of Texas staying closed to other conferences won't last. sooner or later they won't care and just start recruiting in the state.

[jayhawk]

UT was not invited because they were not going to the SEC. Texas can go to any conference it wants. They are as desirable as anyone, maybe even Notre Dame, maybe even more. I think OU is a better fit than any school in the Big 12 for the SEC. I thin OU and OSU would have been great for the SEC, and A&M too. Texas would hate to lose both it's rivals and doesn't want Texas opened up for SEC recruiting. As for OU, they would rather just have to beat Texas and Maybe a Pac 10 school than win the SEC, that is a lot harder, so that is why none of it happened... this time... the Big 8/12 has been good for OU, they are in the title hunt all the time. Why make that overly hard to achieve and still get the money?

 

We will all be back at this in 5 or 10 years, who knows how it really ends...

 

Texas may be desirable but their attitude of having things their way won't go well when these other conferences are making more money than the Big 12 will leave them on the outside looking in. That's if Texas stays dominant, if they start having mediocre seasons then they won't be that desirable. The state of Texas staying closed to other conferences won't last. sooner or later they won't care and just start recruiting in the state.

 

Every conference would take UT now, next year, or whenever they called. Everyone can already recruit in the state now, but as long as none of the major schools in the state are in one conference, other conferences will meet with limited success. Your Texas connections will be hurt over the next 5 years. They won't dry up immediately, but go see how many rivals 5* and 4* Texas kids play in the Big 10...