52% Say GOP Agenda In Congress Is Extreme

['SkersRule]

Most Americans are not qualified to have a real opinion on ACA as they have no Fin idea what is in it. Remember, many of these same people do not believe Medicare, social security, or military pensions are government programs either.

 

Since when in the entire history of American politics has a voter's "qualifications" ever been a component of casting a vote?

[Notre Dame Joe]

I wonder what qualifies as "a legally passed law or act as one of the functions of Congress" and at what point it ceases to be that and becomes instead, "something shoved down our collective throats."

 

Well a law can't be illegal by it's nature. But here is what counts as shoving.

 

* Congress began debating the bill before they were presented a draft.

 

* that didn't change when the draft appeared, it was voluminous, opaque, and designed to be as hard to understand as possible.

 

* The bill seemed to spring out the ground. No one knows who actually sat at the computer and typed it.

 

* It was passed with back room deals from the 19th century.

 

* after the unexpected election in MA. they had to abuse a process known as 'reconcilaition' to push it through.

 

* To make it consitutional.The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court had to

1. Declare it a 'tax' when the President swore that it was not.

2. Change the American definition 'tax' into something that has no taxable event.

 

Honorable mention: The mandataxelty kicks in after the President's re-election campaign is over. His support among young voters would evaporate if they had to pay up front for the benefits of the law.

[carlfense]

I guess the difference is when a majority of Americans oppose legislation and yet it stands....to wit obamacare.

Actually . . . that's not true anymore. We'll see if the polling holds.

 

I wonder what the GOP will use to defend their actions once the polling swings? They won't be able to claim that it's unconstitutional. They won't be able to claim that the people don't support it. They won't even be able to say that the face of their party doesn't support it . . . at least not with a straight face.

 

It's no wonder that they're so desperate to repeal it now. They don't really have other options.

[knapplc]

I wonder what qualifies as "a legally passed law or act as one of the functions of Congress" and at what point it ceases to be that and becomes instead, "something shoved down our collective throats."

 

The Other Party Did It.

 

It's pretty much as simple as that. Had Republicans passed Romneycare next year, we'd be hearing every Republican mouthpiece and their choir singing the praises of their legislation, and the other side heaping scorn upon it. Instead, Obamacare is the law of the land, and we hear every Democrat mouthpiece and their choir singing the praises of Obamacare while the other side heaps that same scorn.

 

The hilarious part is, the choir knows this is true and does not care. They simply parrot what their mouthpieces say, whether that's MSNBC or Fox.

[strigori]

Most Americans are not qualified to have a real opinion on ACA as they have no Fin idea what is in it. Remember, many of these same people do not believe Medicare, social security, or military pensions are government programs either.

 

Since when in the entire history of American politics has a voter's "qualifications" ever been a component of casting a vote?

Nothing to do with 'voting' there IS a reason why we elect people instead of letting dude on the street with an opinion actually write laws. And often laws may be needed that are unpopular in some areas.

 

And when they show polls where 51% disapprove, 45% approve with a margin of error of 5 points, that's a statistical wash. And I want to punch the next fool in the face who calls 51% a 'mandate.' A 'mandate' implies a super majority. Like what is required to amend the constitution. The cluster we would be in if 51% could amend the constitution.....

[strigori]

Here is a rather long, and interesting outside(Australia) look at this exact issue.

 

http://www.moreecham...spx?storypage=0