NoLongerN Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Thought this story was fascinating ... then I heard he has an office in Bellevue. Just thought it might interest someone on this board. http://www.jillstanek.com/2013/02/breaking-carharts-victims-identified/ Link to comment
NUance Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 What a terrible tragedy. I lean towards pro-choice, even though I am personally against abortions. But situations like this give me pause as to what is right. I notice they glossed over the problems with the fetus that prompted the abortion. ("[after they] learned her daughter suffered from fetal anomalies.") It's hard to form an opinion on this story without this key bit of information. Was the baby merely suffering from cosmetic anomalies? Or something more serious that would likely have resulted in death shortly after birth? Link to comment
carlfense Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I notice they glossed over the problems with the fetus that prompted the abortion. ("[after they] learned her daughter suffered from fetal anomalies.") It's hard to form an opinion on this story without this key bit of information. Was the baby merely suffering from cosmetic anomalies? Or something more serious that would likely have resulted in death shortly after birth? Yeah . . . I noticed that too. I don't think that it's at all likely that it was just cosmetic abnormalities . . . I'd like to know the rest of the story. Link to comment
bennychico11 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I notice they glossed over the problems with the fetus that prompted the abortion. ("[after they] learned her daughter suffered from fetal anomalies.") It's hard to form an opinion on this story without this key bit of information. Was the baby merely suffering from cosmetic anomalies? Or something more serious that would likely have resulted in death shortly after birth? Yeah . . . I noticed that too. I don't think that it's at all likely that it was just cosmetic abnormalities . . . I'd like to know the rest of the story. Of course, it's an obiviously biased article. It also states "The Washington Post reported yesterday that both the medical examiner and Montgomery County Police Department are conducting an investigation"...but goes ahead and labels the article as Carhart's victims identified. As if he's already guilty. I also love how the source of most of the information for the article is "sidewalk counselors" Link to comment
Someone Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Follow-up: "the woman died of “natural causes,” the medical examiner" Rush to judgement is now over. Link to comment
Ziggy Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Follow-up: "the woman died of “natural causes,” the medical examiner" Rush to judgement is now over. Reread the article, its from Feb. 20th, doesn't include info from the more detailed autopsy. Seems this article is a rush to judgement. Also, just because the medical examiner rules it a natural cause death, doesn't absolve the Doctor from legal issues. Otherwise he wouldn't be still in court right now, although he has had a few charges dropped by the Judge. As of right now there is more crap info going around than real info because of the emotions involved with the abortion issue. Link to comment
Someone Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Follow-up: "the woman died of “natural causes,” the medical examiner" Rush to judgement is now over. Reread the article, its from Feb. 20th, doesn't include info from the more detailed autopsy. Seems this article is a rush to judgement. Also, just because the medical examiner rules it a natural cause death, doesn't absolve the Doctor from legal issues. Otherwise he wouldn't be still in court right now, although he has had a few charges dropped by the Judge. As of right now there is more crap info going around than real info because of the emotions involved with the abortion issue. The article is from 2/20 because that is when the autopsy results were released. No rush to judgement in publishing the stated cause of death based on the a autopsy after the autopsy results are available. What exactly are the charges against Dr. Carhart that a judge dropped? As for the crap info, I'd suggest you stick to the actual media sites like the Washington Post site that I posted a link from. That's a good source for 'real info'. Link to comment
Ziggy Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Follow-up: "the woman died of “natural causes,” the medical examiner" Rush to judgement is now over. Reread the article, its from Feb. 20th, doesn't include info from the more detailed autopsy. Seems this article is a rush to judgement. Also, just because the medical examiner rules it a natural cause death, doesn't absolve the Doctor from legal issues. Otherwise he wouldn't be still in court right now, although he has had a few charges dropped by the Judge. As of right now there is more crap info going around than real info because of the emotions involved with the abortion issue. The article is from 2/20 because that is when the autopsy results were released. No rush to judgement in publishing the stated cause of death based on the a autopsy after the autopsy results are available. What exactly are the charges against Dr. Carhart that a judge dropped? As for the crap info, I'd suggest you stick to the actual media sites like the Washington Post site that I posted a link from. That's a good source for 'real info'. I don't know about you but I am not a doctor, or a ME, so weather one professionals opinion is considered the final answer is ludicrous. I am sure multiple doctors and ME's will be going over the original ME's file to collaborate or to attack his findings. Its called google, and you can look the dropped charges up yourself. But from what I understand they were dropped due to a lack of evidence to collaborate the stories enough to continue them on with the trial. As to the Washington Post, Don't you mean the Pravada on the Potomac....."In a November 16, 2008, column, The Washington Post ombudsman Deborah Howell stated: "I'll bet that most Post journalists voted for Obama. I did. There are centrists at The Post as well. But the conservatives I know here feel so outnumbered that they don't even want to be quoted by name in a memo".[48] Responding to criticism of the newspaper's coverage during the run-up to the 2008 presidential election, Howell wrote: "The opinion pages have strong conservative voices; the editorial board includes centrists and conservatives; and there were editorials critical of Obama. Yet opinion was still weighted toward Obama. It's not hard to see why conservatives feel disrespected".[48] According to a 2009 publication, in the blogging community, liberal bloggers link to the Washington Post and "New York Times" more often than other major newspapers]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Post Or this....http://www.lifenews.com/2013/04/17/washington-post-admits-gosnell-B******-but-denies-liberal-bias/ Link to comment
Someone Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Its called google' date=' and you can look the dropped charges up yourself. But from what I understand they were dropped due to a lack of evidence to collaborate the stories enough to continue them on with the trial.[/quote'] Dude. I did use google and I can't find anywhere that suggests that Carhart was charged in this woman's death let alone that a Judge has dropped any charges. As for the suggested that because we are not Dr. or ME, we can't take a autopsy report that have never been challenged in court at face value is quite odd, to say the least. Take off the tin foil hat for a moment. Link to comment
Someone Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Still no word on what Judge dropped what charges against Carhart. Link to comment
carlfense Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 As far as I have seen Dr. Carhart hasn't been charged with anything in this death. That said, I'm sure that lifenews.com and jillstanek.com are offering a fair and balanced assessment. Link to comment
Someone Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Ziggy seems to be having trouble finding confirmation of his statement: Also, just because the medical examiner rules it a natural cause death, doesn't absolve the Doctor from legal issues. Otherwise he wouldn't be still in court right now, although he has had a few charges dropped by the Judge. Oddly enough, his very next statement was quite true: As of right now there is more crap info going around than real info because of the emotions involved with the abortion issue. The only problem is that the "crap info" is found in Ziggy's post. Link to comment
Ziggy Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/23/kermit-gosnell-murder-charges_n_3139986.html http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/23/3-7-murder-charges-against-philadelphia-abortion-doctor-kermit-gosnell-tossed/ http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/24/us/judge-throws-out-some-charges-against-dr-kermit-gosnell.html?_r=0 http://www.mediaite.com/online/judge-drops-three-murder-charges-against-abortion-doctor-kermit-gosnell/ Wow that took all of three seconds.....man google is really tough. He is charged with 3rd degree murder of Karnamaya Mongar, for medication overdose death. The 4 remaining 1st degree murder charges are for babies he is accused of killing post failed abortion by using scissors to cut the spinal cord. And word of advice to help you out on your husker board future, argue the post and not the poster. Link to comment
Lil' Red Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 http://www.huffingto..._n_3139986.html http://www.foxnews.c...gosnell-tossed/ http://www.nytimes.c...snell.html?_r=0 http://www.mediaite....kermit-gosnell/ Wow that took all of three seconds.....man google is really tough. He is charged with 3rd degree murder of Karnamaya Mongar, for medication overdose death. The 4 remaining 1st degree murder charges are for babies he is accused of killing post failed abortion by using scissors to cut the spinal cord. And word of advice to help you out on your husker board future, argue the post and not the poster. I believe this thread is only discussing the Carhart case and not the Gosnell case. 1 Link to comment
Ziggy Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 You are correct, got my sh*t mixed up....too many bad abortion doctors running around. Link to comment
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