Husker Psycho Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 It was pretty much just a big orgy, and one of the girls either didn't like some small thing that happened, or decided while she was a part of it that she didn't want to anymore. Nothing to see here. Not according to the police chief. Quote Link to comment
Husker Psycho Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Husker Psycho, would it have sounded better if the prosecutor said "we did not find enough evidence to substansiate a case" ? It probably should have been stated that way, but it wasn't. If the DA doesn't feel confident, I know I wouldn't want to miss work to sit in on that jury. Yes But he didn't say that. The term he used was not in his authority... and if the prosecutor does not know what his own authority is then that is very troubling. IDK, but I think you're making a mountain of a tweet by a sportswriter that was summarizing. One would think the prosecutor would know if he has enough evidence to build a case. I'd rather we not waste resources and throw every single case in front of a jury. If the sportswriter was summarizing and the prosecutor did not actually say that then OK. But that's the way it's being "reported"... for whatever something being reported by a reporter is worth... LOL No, that is actually what he said. I know I wouldn't want to be raped in Lincoln. Only 15% of reported rapes actually end up with charges filed and someone convicted. 15! You take into account how many go uncharged, and I could see how a rape victim in Lincoln would feel hopeless. Once again I'm not taking sides... I have no idea what happened... but with that said... Many people here should not... under any circumstances... read what the Lincoln paper had to say today about this incident. You might not like what you read. That would be what the Lincoln paper said... not me. I've been a Nebraska football fan for a long time... I support the team... but this makes my head hurt. The article only shines light on how the process works in general, which I agree doesn't make me thrilled. But what happened in this case isn't special or any more troubling than an accusation made about a "normal" person. Quote: "I believe the victim" (Lincoln police chief Jim Peschong) Quote: "Yes, that is correct." (Lincoln Police chief Jim Peschong when asked if there was an indication that something questionable had happened) Looks like a cover up is fully under way. It only looks like a cover up if you're an idiot. An objective look at this by any intelligent person would ring alarm bells. We have a prosecutor who has anointed himself judge and jury and swept the incident under the rug (cover up) and we have a police chief who is an intelligent person and who's statements would prove the prosecutors decision to be false. The police chief's statements prove that an intelligent person looking at this would and could side with the victim. You know, like someone sitting on a jury. That's what the cover up is about and what they appear to be attempting to stop from happening. So now you know exactly what happened. You should use this talent. I have no idea what happened. All I know is what the police chief said and how totally contrary that is to what the prosecutor (self appointed judge and jury)... decided not to let a jury see and hear and decide. In case you don't understand this yet ... the statements I quoted above are from the Lincoln Police Chief and were published by the Lincoln paper. Quote Link to comment
RADAR Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 It was pretty much just a big orgy, and one of the girls either didn't like some small thing that happened, or decided while she was a part of it that she didn't want to anymore. Nothing to see here. This is pretty much the truth as I know it. Quote Link to comment
Husker Psycho Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 It was pretty much just a big orgy, and one of the girls either didn't like some small thing that happened, or decided while she was a part of it that she didn't want to anymore. Nothing to see here. This is pretty much the truth as I know it. You heard that from the victim ? The police chief would have knowledge of what both sides said happened. Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Husker Psycho, would it have sounded better if the prosecutor said "we did not find enough evidence to substansiate a case" ? It probably should have been stated that way, but it wasn't. If the DA doesn't feel confident, I know I wouldn't want to miss work to sit in on that jury. Yes But he didn't say that. The term he used was not in his authority... and if the prosecutor does not know what his own authority is then that is very troubling. IDK, but I think you're making a mountain of a tweet by a sportswriter that was summarizing. One would think the prosecutor would know if he has enough evidence to build a case. I'd rather we not waste resources and throw every single case in front of a jury. If the sportswriter was summarizing and the prosecutor did not actually say that then OK. But that's the way it's being "reported"... for whatever something being reported by a reporter is worth... LOL No, that is actually what he said. I know I wouldn't want to be raped in Lincoln. Only 15% of reported rapes actually end up with charges filed and someone convicted. 15! You take into account how many go uncharged, and I could see how a rape victim in Lincoln would feel hopeless. Once again I'm not taking sides... I have no idea what happened... but with that said... Many people here should not... under any circumstances... read what the Lincoln paper had to say today about this incident. You might not like what you read. That would be what the Lincoln paper said... not me. I've been a Nebraska football fan for a long time... I support the team... but this makes my head hurt. The article only shines light on how the process works in general, which I agree doesn't make me thrilled. But what happened in this case isn't special or any more troubling than an accusation made about a "normal" person. Quote: "I believe the victim" (Lincoln police chief Jim Peschong) Quote: "Yes, that is correct." (Lincoln Police chief Jim Peschong when asked if there was an indication that something questionable had happened) Looks like a cover up is fully under way. It only looks like a cover up if you're an idiot. We have a prosecutor who has anointed himself judge and jury and swept the incident under the rug (cover up) and we have a police chief who is an intelligent person and who's statements would prove the prosecutors decision to be false. I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but as I pointed out to you earlier in this thread, the prosecutor said exactly what he was supposed to in these instances and did his job to the T. You are wrong about this. Quote Link to comment
Husker Psycho Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Husker Psycho, would it have sounded better if the prosecutor said "we did not find enough evidence to substansiate a case" ? It probably should have been stated that way, but it wasn't. If the DA doesn't feel confident, I know I wouldn't want to miss work to sit in on that jury. Yes But he didn't say that. The term he used was not in his authority... and if the prosecutor does not know what his own authority is then that is very troubling. IDK, but I think you're making a mountain of a tweet by a sportswriter that was summarizing. One would think the prosecutor would know if he has enough evidence to build a case. I'd rather we not waste resources and throw every single case in front of a jury. If the sportswriter was summarizing and the prosecutor did not actually say that then OK. But that's the way it's being "reported"... for whatever something being reported by a reporter is worth... LOL No, that is actually what he said. I know I wouldn't want to be raped in Lincoln. Only 15% of reported rapes actually end up with charges filed and someone convicted. 15! You take into account how many go uncharged, and I could see how a rape victim in Lincoln would feel hopeless. Once again I'm not taking sides... I have no idea what happened... but with that said... Many people here should not... under any circumstances... read what the Lincoln paper had to say today about this incident. You might not like what you read. That would be what the Lincoln paper said... not me. I've been a Nebraska football fan for a long time... I support the team... but this makes my head hurt. The article only shines light on how the process works in general, which I agree doesn't make me thrilled. But what happened in this case isn't special or any more troubling than an accusation made about a "normal" person. Quote: "I believe the victim" (Lincoln police chief Jim Peschong) Quote: "Yes, that is correct." (Lincoln Police chief Jim Peschong when asked if there was an indication that something questionable had happened) Looks like a cover up is fully under way. It only looks like a cover up if you're an idiot. We have a prosecutor who has anointed himself judge and jury and swept the incident under the rug (cover up) and we have a police chief who is an intelligent person and who's statements would prove the prosecutors decision to be false. I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but as I pointed out to you earlier in this thread, the prosecutor said exactly what he was supposed to in these instances and did his job to the T. You are wrong about this. The quote you furnished earlier came from a prosecutor who gave himself the exact same self appointed authority to be judge and jury... which he does not have... and that quote concerns the Winston-Florida State incident witch has terrifying similarity to this incident. Published Yesterday 11-25-15... and republished TODAY by the sports network. http://espn.go.com/ncf/story/_/id/14226424/florida-state-official-details-favorable-treatment-seminoles-football-players-accused-rape Quote Link to comment
RADAR Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 It was pretty much just a big orgy, and one of the girls either didn't like some small thing that happened, or decided while she was a part of it that she didn't want to anymore. Nothing to see here. This is pretty much the truth as I know it. You heard that from the victim ? The police chief would have knowledge of what both sides said happened. Not really a victim here. Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Husker Psycho, would it have sounded better if the prosecutor said "we did not find enough evidence to substansiate a case" ? It probably should have been stated that way, but it wasn't. If the DA doesn't feel confident, I know I wouldn't want to miss work to sit in on that jury. Yes But he didn't say that. The term he used was not in his authority... and if the prosecutor does not know what his own authority is then that is very troubling. IDK, but I think you're making a mountain of a tweet by a sportswriter that was summarizing. One would think the prosecutor would know if he has enough evidence to build a case. I'd rather we not waste resources and throw every single case in front of a jury. If the sportswriter was summarizing and the prosecutor did not actually say that then OK. But that's the way it's being "reported"... for whatever something being reported by a reporter is worth... LOL No, that is actually what he said. I know I wouldn't want to be raped in Lincoln. Only 15% of reported rapes actually end up with charges filed and someone convicted. 15! You take into account how many go uncharged, and I could see how a rape victim in Lincoln would feel hopeless. Once again I'm not taking sides... I have no idea what happened... but with that said... Many people here should not... under any circumstances... read what the Lincoln paper had to say today about this incident. You might not like what you read. That would be what the Lincoln paper said... not me. I've been a Nebraska football fan for a long time... I support the team... but this makes my head hurt. The article only shines light on how the process works in general, which I agree doesn't make me thrilled. But what happened in this case isn't special or any more troubling than an accusation made about a "normal" person. Quote: "I believe the victim" (Lincoln police chief Jim Peschong) Quote: "Yes, that is correct." (Lincoln Police chief Jim Peschong when asked if there was an indication that something questionable had happened) Looks like a cover up is fully under way. It only looks like a cover up if you're an idiot. We have a prosecutor who has anointed himself judge and jury and swept the incident under the rug (cover up) and we have a police chief who is an intelligent person and who's statements would prove the prosecutors decision to be false. I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but as I pointed out to you earlier in this thread, the prosecutor said exactly what he was supposed to in these instances and did his job to the T. You are wrong about this. The quote you furnished earlier came from a prosecutor who gave himself the exact same self appointed authority to be judge and jury... which he does not have... and that quote concerns the Winston-Florida State incident witch has terrifying similarity to this incident. Published Yesterday 11-25-15... and republished TODAY by the sports network. http://espn.go.com/ncf/story/_/id/14226424/florida-state-official-details-favorable-treatment-seminoles-football-players-accused-rape The quote came from the HEAD of the National District Attorney Association. He wasn't giving himself authority he doesn't have - he was describing the job of a prosecutor in a rape case. It is, quite literally, a prosecutor's job to decide whether a person should be charged with a crime and what that charge should be. You're operating under the impression it's some self-appointed power when it's not. It is the law. This is how the justice system works across the country. If your problem is with the way the justice system works then fine... that's an argument I won't have with you. But, I can't make it any clearer that what Joe Kelly said is 100% what his job asks him to do and say. Google a prosecutor's job and how the justice system works if you don't believe me. Quote Link to comment
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