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Everyone who loses a parent early gets affected by that both mentally and emotionally. The environment and other adults can sometimes help with the damages, but the child at some point has to choose to find a reason to do better. Whether that is honoring the parent, proving something to everyone else around, choosing to become the lost parent for others, Jesus Christ, etc. if the child does not find it within to find that reason, it won’t be good for the child and everyone around. every child In that situation has to deal with that emotional/mental baggage somehow. It’s up to Maurice if he wants to. It’s still not too late, but he has to want to, even if he feels he can’t.

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this isn’t about “numbers”. If you watch the tape, it’s clear as day. about the d-lines pass rush, it’s a 3-4. You have to view their performance in light of what they are being asked to do. If you cannot objectively say that most of the dline players have played better than Lamar, you’re just not being objective. you don’t have to agree. You can like Lamar Jackson, and you are free to think that he is truly a first rounder. That’s fine too. But don’t be that person that just rejects the ability to be objective. It makes discussions worthless.

again, i'd say when opponents are running away from an entire position group and running towards a specific player, and basing entire drives and concepts on said player, that's an objective indication that said player is an exploitable weakness for the team.

that's probably not as difficult as you might think. he, #7, and #22 are constantly targeted in the run game with success. the entire d-line has played better, and the safeties have played better as well.

is he, really?

Just so we’re clear, this is exactly what was said about Riley, and to some extent, bo pelini. So I suppose the question is, what exactly in the first 19 games can you point to as proof that somehow things will be better next year? I like frost. But it’s silly to act like anyone who has concerns about the product on the field is crazy. There are serious issues in Lincoln. They won’t magically get fixed just because the head coach is a former player, or because he had success elsewhere, or because you “believe”. He still has to make the right moves in all areas. So far, he hasn’t. That’s the issue here.

well at least you admit to shifting the goalposts. at this point you are only interested in being right as opposed to actually having a conversation. all of my posts to you have been consistent. they were me trying to explain my initial post. i can't help you if you can't or won't understand the simple things i wrote in english, especially if you are the only one seeing things that way. here's the crux of what i'm saying: we have two quarterbacks who have seen significant playing time. both are dealing with poorly coached receivers, inconsistent snaps, bad playcalling, and poor o-line play. quarterback A is definitely more talented, but has made poor decisions, and has fumbled and turned the ball over more than every other FBS player in the time he has played. Quarterback B, in the 1.5 games he has played, has not fumbled, has not turned the ball over, and has been more decisive with the football than QB A. those are facts. deal with it. or don't. your problem.

so your whole argument against my orchard argument is to point to a few low-hanging apples? ok. keep in mind, you have shifted the goalposts twice now in your responses to me. as is the case when talking about the program, no matter the coach, you will always find those who will defend anything and everything, no matter what facts may be available.

i can appreciate that... but if you are repping and not correcting players who seem to have always had issues with the culture of proper execution, that's a massive waste of time. that would explain the issues we are having with execution on gameday.

put those phrases in context. they are only inconsistent if you are trying to make false arguments. the first one, "absolutely nothing to do with..." is referring to the property of giving up the most fumbles, and not referring to every single individual fumble. "most" then points specifically to the individual fumbles. apples vs the orchard. forest vs trees. you can disagree all you want, but don't take my posts out of context. nowhere in my posts did i point to any interception.

that cannot possibly be the case, if they're not focusing on corrections during the practice. at the very least, they aren't repeating plays enough times to get proficient.

show me where i said martinez' problems have nothing to do with the o-line. disagree all you want, but giving up the most fumbles in the FBS has absolutely nothing to do with the o-line. it takes one player to hold on to the ball. not 6. and most of the fumbles are NOT sack-fumbles either. both quarterbacks have issues being created for them by the o-line. one of them, who is definitely more talented, has compounded issues and made things worse with his decision making and how he handles the ball. the other quarterback hasn't. that's fact.

i honestly hope so, because on the surface, it makes a ton of sense. but when you look deeper, and you see execution issues only getting worse, to the point where we can't get lined up right on offense, we keep overrunning plays on defense, we keep having execution errors, and worst of all, we keep getting destroyed against teams that go up-tempo. all the while, with all the plays they run in practice, they keep telling us the MAJORITY of players that have been here for almost 2 years just aren't ready yet. clearly something is getting lost in translation. in my opinion, i think you can only do things that way when you have established a culture and program foundation where the basics are not a concern, and you have your accountability perfected, where you just can't get away with poor execution. that's not the case here.

vedral played better than adrian martinez has all season. go watch the tape. his decision making was better. that's not the same as saying that he's better or more talented than martinez. that's been the issue all season: martinez is not playing anywhere near what he is capable of, for multiple reasons, both internal and external.

in games that martinez had decent snaps, he still made poor decisions. Martinez has turned the ball overmore than any other Division 1 player this season. that has nothing to do with the o-line. vedral in this game was definitely limited by the o-line. but when there were no penalties or whiffed blocks, he made plays. thats more than we can say for martinez.

let me start by saying I LIKE FROST. i want him to win here, and i think he will. but in my opinion, i think the issues with this team boil down to one thing: just being intentional about exactly what it is you want to see as a coach. that's what separates good/great coaches from the rest. i'm not sure we are being intentional about the simple things, and its showing. - correction in practice. if practice is as high tempo as it supposedly is, how much time do they actually spend teaching and correcting? i'm pretty sure someone said last year that they actively do not spend time correcting, but rather, they focus on reps, and address corrections in the film room. maybe we need to adjust that a bit. - player management. i don't think it's right for anyone to say they have no talent on this team. there is talent. but inexplicably, you only have wandale, spielman, and martinez, with a regressing washington and a limited mills. i find it hard to believe that those are the only guys we've been able to get ready, in spite of injuries. it's not right that you can't play other guys until someone gets hurt. that's just not going to work. there's no way in heck that guys will be ready when their number is called. - coaches keep talking about waiting for playmakers to make play. that just doesn't sound right to me. i submit that if you are "waiting" for these playmakers, then that means you are not actively preparing them mentally and physically to perform when the lights are brightest. that needs to change. i know players play, coaches coach, but ultimately, there is something to be said for making sure players are ready to be fundamentally football players. these players haven't looked ready to play in any game this season, except maybe south alabama. - coaching leadership. every week this season, the head coach has mentioned one player, and in most cases, mentioned a specific point of emphasis, and then another coach has come out and said something opposite, or the things the head coach mentions just shown up on gameday. the staff can be as close knit and familial as they want, but ultimately, i still contend that they aren't all on the same page. something is going on that we won't hear about. i can cite examples, but my post is too long already. - being too cute, outhinking yourself, making adjustments in game. nothing more needs to be said. sometimes you have to move away from part of your gameplan in game or in season, really. you have to be humble enough to do so sometimes. - you can't always coach effort, but you definitely don't have to allow poor effort either. this head coach said last year that there was no difference between "you can't" and "you won't". well, time to field only players who are willing. at least, that means we will have one of those two.

unfortunately, frost just doesn't really rate special teams. Dewitt needs to go. sorry for all he's been through, but there's nothing assigned to him that's doing well. OLB recruiting has even been the worst of the team. if chinander moves on, i'll be shocked. in a good way. but Frost isn't letting him go. greg austin performance, i just don't understand. he's supposedly is a great coach.

I hope so. I actually agree with you About the development in many areas.

We still need recruiting, for sure. Point is, lots of teams out there are rated much lower than us in recruiting, yet they show better technique, execution and organization. Proper technique will always give you a chance. Focus on that and you will see better success.

The starters not executing is a symptom of a larger coaching problem, imo. Again, the point of this thread in the first place was that backups should be developed to be able to step in when needed for any reason, such as last night. Starting wr got hurt, and backup didn’t seem like he could contribute much. This isn't about supplanting the starters, but about developing others on the roster.

If you have a roster of over 140 people and you are waiting on recruiting to be able to execute simple plays well, you’re doing it wrong.

So.. just the one possible target for a guy who the head coach openly said NEEDS to be more involved?

i think today's game shows that there needs to be some type of adjustment to the way wider receivers and running backs are prepared to play. in the past two weeks, frost mentioned woodyard, rahmir johnson, and mcquitty. then they all come on the field for ome play eash, where they are used as decoys, then sent back to the sideline. and then JD got hurt. there's officially something wrong somewhere.

those are the two central questions, but its a long season man. it would be a hard to look back and see that the reason why the offense sputtered out at some points (if it does), is because backups were not prepared in live moments. it's all about preparation and hedging your bets.