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Welp..... Looks like once again, finesse got smacked dead in the grill last night. Dayum. Scary good team in Columbus, OH. And Meyer thought they were one year AWAY?!? Holy crap.

They could have had R. Lee Ermey last night. Wouldn't have mattered. They got punched in the mouth by a more physical football team last night. And the kicker is - had the Buckeyes not turned the ball over 4 times, it would have been a lot worse.

P.S. - List of 85 postsecondary institutions that have pending Title IX sexual violence investigations as of October 15, 2014, including the dates the specific investigations were initiated. Amazingly, there are no SEC schools listed....Not so amazing, Penn State is among the schools listed.... UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA AT CHAPEL HILL 3/1/2013 MINOT STATE UNIVERSITY 2/26/2014 UNIVERSITY OF NEBRASKA-LINCOLN 9/30/2014 DARTMOUTH COLLEGE 5/31/2013 PRINCETON UNIVERSITY 12/15/2010 CUNY HUNTER COLLEGE 2/8/2013 ELMIRA COLLEGE 5/12/2014 HOBART AND WILLIAM SMITH COLLEGES 4/24/2014 PACE UNIVERSITY - NEW YORK 7/22/2014 SAINT THOMAS AQUINAS COLLEGE 7/9/2014 SARAH LAWRENCE COLLEGE 12/4/2013 SUNY AT STONY BROOK 7/23/2014 DENISON UNIVERSITY 3/7/2014 THE UNIVERSITY OF AKRON 5/6/2014 WITTENBERG UNIVERSITY Case 1: 8/25/2011; Case 2: 4/18/2013 OKLAHOMA STATE UNIVERSITY 4/10/2014 CARNEGIE MELLON UNIVERSITY 1/13/2014 FRANKLIN AND MARSHALL COLLEGE 3/26/2014 PENNSYLVANIA STATE UNIVERSITY 1/23/2014 SWARTHMORE COLLEGE 7/12/2013 TEMPLE UNIVERSITY 8/9/2013 BROWN UNIVERSITY 7/10/2014 VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY 3/12/2014 CISCO JUNIOR COLLEGE 5/7/2014 SOUTHERN METHODIST UNIVERSITY Case 1: 8/17/2011; Case 2: 4/19/2013; Case 3: 4/19/2013 THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS-PAN AMERICAN 4/21/2014 COLLEGE OF WILLIAM AND MARY 4/18/2014 JAMES MADISON UNIVERSITY 6/4/2014 UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND 6/12/2014 UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA 6/30/2011 VIRGINIA MILITARY INSTITUTE 9/15/2014 MARLBORO COLLEGE 10/6/2014 WASHINGTON STATE UNIVERSITY 1/15/2013 UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN-WHITEWATER 2/14/2014 BETHANY COLLEGE 4/28/2014 DAVIS AND ELKINS COLLEGE 9/4/2014 WEST VIRGINIA SCHOOL OF OSTEOPATHIC MEDICINE 3/25/2013

Hmm.... I don't know why a school would want to part ways with a guy who did something lewd and unbecoming of a player representing the university....in the midst of a Title IX violations probe......

WTF?!? COME ON, URBAN MEYER!!! At least announce this bad news AFTER the game!!!

I had to find this out the hard way with my kids as well. Kids in today's society are motivated differently. You have to move with the times. Can't raise a kid the same way we were raised. You don't have to upturn the entire apple cart, but you can take some older apples out and put newer ones in.

I wasn't a yeller and screamer when I was a coach. Nor was I a coach that 'befriended' players. Teaching, getting to know players on a personal level, and humanizing yourself speaks volumes to a player instead of screaming and hollering at them. That being said - I did raise my voice at certain times, and it was usually during a game. But it was always followed up with TEACHING. Don't scream at a guy then walk off. Scream, teach, pat em on the azz, and say get em next time.

Big Game is in trouble down in Norman right now. Jay Norvell and Josh Heupel fired. Next step is head coaching change.

Steven Jackson, NFL Running back. You're probably used to seeing him like this: Little note of trivia about Mr. Jackson.... He's one of three active players that is in the 10,000 yards rushing club. Other two members of this club that are active are Frank Gore and Adrian Peterson. Of this club, 13 of 29 of the guys are in the NFL Hall of Fame. Guys like: Emmitt Smith Eric Dickerson Barry Sanders Curtis Martin Tony Dorsett Jim Brown Marshall Faulk Marcus Allen Thurman Thomas Franco Harris and others....

Oh yeah, I don't dispute both Oregon and Ohio State's ability to run it with a physical nature behind it. Again, though - they have advantages over other schools. Ohio State is in a recruiting bed in Ohio, and Oregon has Phil Knight from Nike. That gives them a leg up on everybody else trying to recruit to that style off offense.

Bo had a QC position. He doesn't work at McDonalds, but apparently, pretty close:

Nothing wrong with aggressiveness, I 110% agree with you on this one. The first knock on the spread style - for me, personally - is just a perceived lack of toughness. Don't get me wrong - Oregon is tough, as is Ohio State. But they can recruit to that, and have always recruited to that style. Not to mention, they've got capital with recruits. Nebraska doesn't at this point. Gotta get a tough, physical style of football in Lincoln again. The kind where people look and say, "those guys are the bullies on the block." Once you do that, you could recruit the next NFL team, LOL... This is the other knock on it for me. Again, when I look at most of the pro style guys (like Wilson, Brady, Manning, Brees, etc), they are all amazing competitors that are, first and foremost, students of the game. Hell, look at Brady. Dude is the prime example of looking at a guy's athletic talent over his heart, underestimating the guy's drive and determination. Look at the the six guys drafted BEFORE Brady: Why is he so successful? Cause he's a student of the game, you can't tell the guy he can't be successful, coaches be damned. That's the kind of guy we need here as a QB. And, all the guys I mentioned above (Wilson, Brady, Manning, Brees, etc)? They're great leaders, every one of em. All of em, except Manning, it was deemed that they'd be unsuccessful in the NFL ranks because of whatever. For Brady, he was a six round draft pick, wasn't going anywhere. Not like that guy named Drew Bledsoe that was ahead of him. I mean, let's face it: Does THIS look like a future NFL Hall-of-Famer?!? Dude looks like he'd be the store manager at the local Kroger. For Wilson and Brees....they were too short to play QB in the NFL. Check out the pre-draft report negative on Brees: And Wilson: Don't always want the stud athlete. I want a freaking guy who can just straight ball, not necessarily run a 4.3 40. Finally - I hate to quote this horrible movie, but every time I see one of these guys look towards the sideline, I think of this:

Ask Bucky what they think of their offense. Their QB was horrendous yesterday (cept for the last two possessions they had). And they still won the game. If Cardale Jones has a terrible game, the Buckeyes don't win that game. I guess I'm having a hard time following you in this thread. An offensive system isn't gimmicky if you know how to run it and see successful. It's gimmicky if you try to run a system but don't have the success of others. It's gimmicky if it's based on the QB being really good and is successful. OSUs offense isn't gimmicky because it is a power run system but last night they would have never won in the QB didn't have good game even though you said he was horrendous. Okay friend - here's basically what I'm saying: Spread: 1. If you are a team that uses this spread and you lack a certain level of execution - maybe you shouldn't be running it. (See Nebraska) 2. If you are a team that uses this spread and your QB lacks a certain level of discipline - maybe you shouldn't be running it. (See Nebraska) 3. If you are a team that uses this spread and you can't recruit the most top level talent - maybe you shouldn't be running it. (See Nebraska) 4. If you are a team that uses this spread and you aren't physical off the ball 100% of the time on offense - maybe you shouldn't be running it (See Nebraska) A pro-style offense can erase most of a QB's deficiencies (cept yesterday in the case of Winston, LOLZ). The reason why both Bammer and Free Shoes got to the championship (even though both their QBs played like garbage at different times during the year) is because of the level of true multiple sets they run out of their pro style offenses. It doesn't get guys recruited (unless you live in Ohio or you give out free shoes like Oregon) to your school in an area that isn't talent rich traditionally (see Baylor). The offense that both Bucky and Sparty played yesterday kept both their QBs in the game, even though both of their QBs had moments where they went full retard (Stave and his picks and that GAWD AWFUL pick by Shaw yesterday). If the wheels fall off when running the spread, they're off. When Bo, on the day he got hired, said he wanted to run an offense like Florida's, I cringed. Here's the thing. I think I can agree with you but say if in a strange enough way that I can't. You want an offense that works here at Nebraska with a QB that knows how to be a QB and people around him that are good football players for that system. You believe that system should be a more pro style offense that utilizes a power running game. LOL - no problem. I gotcha.... I guess what I'm saying on this front is that I am tired of having an athlete that is playing QB. I'd rather have a QB that is athletic, but is a true QB. More like a Russell Wilson and less like a Colin Kaperneck. To do so, you have to run the correct style of offense. Wilson ran pro style offenses at two different colleges with success, as well as in the pros. And you definitely don't want one like Colin kaperneck, RG3, Marcus marriota, tommie Frazier, JT Barrett, Braxton Miller, Scott Frost...etc. Nope. Gimme a Russell Wilson or a Drew Brees any day. To be fair to Mariotta - he's still playing in college, as is Miller/JT. But, you wanna know what is different about those guys than anyone you named? Both are cerebral types. Both were underrated because although they could move around, they weren't the next stud that could sling it 90 yards or run a 4.3 40. But - they both have something none of those other guys got: I'll give you one guess.......

Ask Bucky what they think of their offense. Their QB was horrendous yesterday (cept for the last two possessions they had). And they still won the game. If Cardale Jones has a terrible game, the Buckeyes don't win that game. I guess I'm having a hard time following you in this thread. An offensive system isn't gimmicky if you know how to run it and see successful. It's gimmicky if you try to run a system but don't have the success of others. It's gimmicky if it's based on the QB being really good and is successful. OSUs offense isn't gimmicky because it is a power run system but last night they would have never won in the QB didn't have good game even though you said he was horrendous. Okay friend - here's basically what I'm saying: Spread: 1. If you are a team that uses this spread and you lack a certain level of execution - maybe you shouldn't be running it. (See Nebraska) 2. If you are a team that uses this spread and your QB lacks a certain level of discipline - maybe you shouldn't be running it. (See Nebraska) 3. If you are a team that uses this spread and you can't recruit the most top level talent - maybe you shouldn't be running it. (See Nebraska) 4. If you are a team that uses this spread and you aren't physical off the ball 100% of the time on offense - maybe you shouldn't be running it (See Nebraska) A pro-style offense can erase most of a QB's deficiencies (cept yesterday in the case of Winston, LOLZ). The reason why both Bammer and Free Shoes got to the championship (even though both their QBs played like garbage at different times during the year) is because of the level of true multiple sets they run out of their pro style offenses. It doesn't get guys recruited (unless you live in Ohio or you give out free shoes like Oregon) to your school in an area that isn't talent rich traditionally (see Baylor). The offense that both Bucky and Sparty played yesterday kept both their QBs in the game, even though both of their QBs had moments where they went full retard (Stave and his picks and that GAWD AWFUL pick by Shaw yesterday). If the wheels fall off when running the spread, they're off. When Bo, on the day he got hired, said he wanted to run an offense like Florida's, I cringed. Here's the thing. I think I can agree with you but say if in a strange enough way that I can't. You want an offense that works here at Nebraska with a QB that knows how to be a QB and people around him that are good football players for that system. You believe that system should be a more pro style offense that utilizes a power running game. LOL - no problem. I gotcha.... I guess what I'm saying on this front is that I am tired of having an athlete that is playing QB. I'd rather have a QB that is athletic, but is a true QB. More like a Russell Wilson and less like a Colin Kaperneck. To do so, you have to run the correct style of offense. Wilson ran pro style offenses at two different colleges with success, as well as in the pros.

Pro style offense, IMHO, is a scheme run at the professional level that uses a balanced attack of run and pass. Utilizes multiple formations and schemes based on match-ups and ball control. It does NOT, however, concentrate NOR funnel all execution through one player. You have to have more than one option. Also, a pro-style offense must have a QB that can read defenses on the field (not from the sidelines), and must manage the game. This comes with experience and teaching. How many times do you see a 'check with me' college style in the pros? Also - other than a fortunate escape against McNeese, and him being hurt against Purdue, how many times did the Huskers win when Ameer had less than 100 yards - in the last two seasons? I'll do the math for ya. Twice. 2013: UCLA - 98 Yards. Loss. Varmints - 165 yards. Loss. Sparty - 123 yards. Loss. Chicken Hawks - 85 yards. Loss. 2014: Sparty - 45 yards. Loss. Bucky - 69 yards. Loss. Varmints - 98 yards. Loss. USC - 88 yards. Loss. 2-6. Shut one dude down, don't let the QB beat you. Doesn't make for good juju. Oregon lost their #1 receiver on the opening kickoff, was missing a TE to injury. Didn't miss a beat. They got the depth and talent for it (because they're Free Shoes New, lol). Buckeyes lost two Heisman trophy candidate QBs. Didn't miss a beat. They got the talent and depth AND coaching for it. Not the same for the Huskers. yeah thats great and all. But to me rhat doesnt define pro style. It defines successful style. And the "check with me" stuff you claim doesnt go on in the pros? Well it does. Do you know what them little green stickers are for?Even Riley himself laughed off the whole prostyle concelt at his introductory presser. I think his exact words were along the lines of "(chuckles) because we huddle and go under center? " Thats the thing with me and this whole pro style thing. Its so undefined and vague. It doesnt really mean anything. By "green stickers" are you referring to QB helmets (and one other player)? The ones with radios on them? That are shut off with 15 seconds on the play clock? 15 seconds or 40? I believe it's 15 seconds left on the play clock. So, at :15 or :10 on the clock, radio off. However, this is what RGIII (who came from a spread offense, coincidentally) said in 2012: Just him and the D. Like it should be

Pro style offense, IMHO, is a scheme run at the professional level that uses a balanced attack of run and pass. Utilizes multiple formations and schemes based on match-ups and ball control. It does NOT, however, concentrate NOR funnel all execution through one player. You have to have more than one option. Also, a pro-style offense must have a QB that can read defenses on the field (not from the sidelines), and must manage the game. This comes with experience and teaching. How many times do you see a 'check with me' college style in the pros? Also - other than a fortunate escape against McNeese, and him being hurt against Purdue, how many times did the Huskers win when Ameer had less than 100 yards - in the last two seasons? I'll do the math for ya. Twice. 2013: UCLA - 98 Yards. Loss. Varmints - 165 yards. Loss. Sparty - 123 yards. Loss. Chicken Hawks - 85 yards. Loss. 2014: Sparty - 45 yards. Loss. Bucky - 69 yards. Loss. Varmints - 98 yards. Loss. USC - 88 yards. Loss. 2-6. Shut one dude down, don't let the QB beat you. Doesn't make for good juju. Oregon lost their #1 receiver on the opening kickoff, was missing a TE to injury. Didn't miss a beat. They got the depth and talent for it (because they're Free Shoes New, lol). Buckeyes lost two Heisman trophy candidate QBs. Didn't miss a beat. They got the talent and depth AND coaching for it. Not the same for the Huskers. yeah thats great and all. But to me rhat doesnt define pro style. It defines successful style. And the "check with me" stuff you claim doesnt go on in the pros? Well it does. Do you know what them little green stickers are for? Even Riley himself laughed off the whole prostyle concelt at his introductory presser. I think his exact words were along the lines of "(chuckles) because we huddle and go under center? " Thats the thing with me and this whole pro style thing. Its so undefined and vague. It doesnt really mean anything. By "green stickers" are you referring to QB helmets (and one other player)? The ones with radios on them? That are shut off with 15 seconds on the play clock?

Not so. Not my argument. My argument is that if you have the right hosses, you can run it. It is also my opinion that it takes a lot of the decisions out of the QB hands. For example...as I type this Houston has scored something like 28 unanswered points. And Pitt has no answer right now. They've been running it for years now...even when Summin was their head coach. It's unstoppable....only if you have the right pieces in place to run it. And, you have to have a disciplined quarterback to run it. Except the guy that continued to run it has been fired and replace by Herman. You're both right and wrong. The Air Raid is a perfect example of a spread system that makes average QBs look like great QBs. Their record breaking numbers are a product of the system. Name a QB under Mike Leachs Air Raid. From his time as OC at Oklahoma to Texas Tech and now at Washington State. If you can, tell me what those QBs have done since. Pretty much nothing. The point is that they weren't great QBs. They were products of a system. Marcus Mariota is a great QB. But he's also running the most refined and proven spread offenses outside of the Air Raid. He deserves winning the Heisman this year, but credit should also be given to the Oregon spread system. Without it, Mariota doesn't shine nearly as bright. There's a reason Oregon has been productive on offense for years with multiple QBs. On the other side, there are also instances of QB being the bright spot. I'm sure you could name numerous. This isn't a "spread vs pro-style" problem here at Nebraska. It's a matter of refinement, proven, and well-preparedness from the coaches. Beck had never been and OC before. That's the issue, because I bet if Chip Kelly had a hand at running our offense with our talent. We're having a totally different conversation. I mean come on. The Eagles somehow won games with Mark Sanchez as their QB. But! They also lost some of those games because of him... In other words, you're both right and wrong. Graham Harrell comes to mind. Tech's current head coach comes from that same type offense. And you are correct...they don't do well after school. Booger Daniel and Brad Smith are also guys from that type of offense. Booger was with the Skins last a I knew, and Smith was playing receiver with the Jets I believe. All good points. Maybe my opinion would be different if some guy (Beck) with little to no experience with the system didn't run it. I think I still have a bad taste in my mouth from Beck. I still, in my heart of hearts, don't believe that it is an offense that just anybody can run. A very strong recruiting base is more than necessary to get the right guys in the system. If you can't recruit properly, you're toast.

I think this is more my point than anything else. First, I don't think that were at the point where we can recruit just anybody. More success is needed to get players to run this type of system. Next, I'll concede my use of the word gimmicky to this extent: Anything that is not done on the field by a quarterback (and comes from the sidelines) to read a defense when a quarterback should have the skills to read a defense, and get into a set package of plays on his own - that is what I define as gimmicky.

I think this is more my point than anything else. First, I don't think that were at the point where we can recruit just anybody. More success is needed to get players to run this type of system. Next, I'll concede my use of the word gimmicky to this extent: Anything that is not done on the field by a quarterback (and comes from the sidelines) to read a defense when a quarterback should have the skills to read a defense, and get into a set package of plays on his own - that is what I define as gimmicky.

Not so. Not my argument. My argument is that if you have the right hosses, you can run it. It is also my opinion that it takes a lot of the decisions out of the QB hands. For example...as I type this Houston has scored something like 28 unanswered points. And Pitt has no answer right now. They've been running it for years now...even when Summin was their head coach. It's unstoppable....only if you have the right pieces in place to run it. And, you have to have a disciplined quarterback to run it.

Look, it's my position. It is my opinion. I just don't think that Nebraska should run a spread. That's my opinion. I'm hearing a bunch of bluster on this thread of why I'm wrong, but no facts/evidence to back it up. I'm a grown man, willing to admit mistakes. Folks want me to support their opinion - give me a reason other than "You're wrong."

Paul Johnson went pimp on that statement, LOL

They scored 41 points and ran up 583 yards of offense against the team that is#12 in the country in scoring defense and #7 in the nation in total defense? Yep, then they went full retard and couldn't finish out the game. Look at their last 4 possessions: Now, look at Sparty's: Cook screwed up with that pick. He knew it. He was distraught over on the sidelines. Then, Sparty blocks a FG, kills a kicker (lolz), and they pro-style their way to victory.

Pro style offense, IMHO, is a scheme run at the professional level that uses a balanced attack of run and pass. Utilizes multiple formations and schemes based on match-ups and ball control. It does NOT, however, concentrate NOR funnel all execution through one player. You have to have more than one option. Also, a pro-style offense must have a QB that can read defenses on the field (not from the sidelines), and must manage the game. This comes with experience and teaching. How many times do you see a 'check with me' college style in the pros? Also - other than a fortunate escape against McNeese, and him being hurt against Purdue, how many times did the Huskers win when Ameer had less than 100 yards - in the last two seasons? I'll do the math for ya. Twice. 2013: UCLA - 98 Yards. Loss. Varmints - 165 yards. Loss. Sparty - 123 yards. Loss. Chicken Hawks - 85 yards. Loss. 2014: Sparty - 45 yards. Loss. Bucky - 69 yards. Loss. Varmints - 98 yards. Loss. USC - 88 yards. Loss. 2-6. Shut one dude down, don't let the QB beat you. Doesn't make for good juju. Oregon lost their #1 receiver on the opening kickoff, was missing a TE to injury. Didn't miss a beat. They got the depth and talent for it (because they're Free Shoes New, lol). Buckeyes lost two Heisman trophy candidate QBs. Didn't miss a beat. They got the talent and depth AND coaching for it. Not the same for the Huskers.