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You're spot on with this comment in the bold. I get HH wasn't our starter to start the year so we need to lower expectations but our QB play is just blatantly missing fundamental defensive read + route progression principles. This is a big reason why I'm so pissed at satt for calling that pass play on 3rd and goal with purdy and the game tied- if our qbs cannot read and react against basic formation/route principles with a whole field, y in the hell should we expect them to do with a much shortened field where the secondary is essentially stacked and has the end zone covered.

Because how else are the keyboard warriors supposed to belittle and talk crap to you when the topic is something everyone generally agrees on?!?!

I honestly think we need 2 transfer QBs. There isnt a qb in the room right now that should even sniff 2nd string for us next year, they've been that pitiful Wasnt saying martinez was the problem on the field- moreso frost's steadfast loyalty the to guy. I get the sense he purposely pooched a few recrutiing cycles at the qb spot when 2AM was young and then didnt want to bring anyone in to ruffle feathers. It left us high and dry leaning on a qb (who was great for us) who pretty much carried us and got beat the hell up and the only backup option frosty seemed intrigued by was mccaffrey and that was a disaster when he was qb.

Let this be a lesson to us all- you simply cannot live and die by the portal year in and year out, particularly at a position of utmost important like QB. I dont like bagging on frosty at this point because its been well covered, but so much of this issue goes back to us hitching our wagon to 2AM and pretty much refusing to bring in another qb until 2am was an upperclassmen. We as a progrum left very little options besides going into the portal and we're left with a swing and a miss on a portal guy, forcing a local kid who prolly 2nd/3rd string at best, and another project from the portal that simply doesn't seem to P5 material consistently. Lets hope Kaelin is the start of us building out a qb room organically and truly up-leveling QBs where they dont play until they're truly ready and their time is now.

These 2 sentences will never occur together, its simply not possible. 11 turnovers in 11 quarters of play?!? Good riddance

I mean, yah, if you just want to remember the pick in the first half as his only turnover. He had 3 INTs on the day- the last one of which occurred AFTER the grant fumble to give minny the ball and a short field to kick the game winning FG. Perhaps that game is a bit shady in your memory bank because Sims doubled down in following weeks with even more atrocious play. I cant blame ya, I wish I could selectively blank out his clown performances out there

Eh, I disagree man- Sims int to end the first half directly took points off of the board and just destroyed momentum we were building. Not to mention it was such an egregious mistake made by a "team leader" at the most important position on the field. Grant was known prior to the season to have fumbling issues and I believe was our 3rd string RB entering the game? You can make an argument either way. I'm just so disgusted by Sims presence in this progrum that I'm probably a bit biased in this lol. Good riddance to him man, didnt think it was possible for someone to pass the low bar set by sam keller as a total dud entering this program and Sims somehow found a way.

Ditto for minnesota which was also 13-10. Maryland is much worse to me- at least minny was week 1 and on the road- this past weekend was just a disgusting day for the QBs as a whole.

Ya know, I dont disagree with this but ill still give us the L for sake of argument purposes. Who knows what wouldve happened had we just put up 14-21 early in that game when defense was playing great.... tho knowing this team, had we won against colorado we prolly would've come out flat against one of the illinois/nw/purdue games. This team still no shows games similar to last iterations- not as severely but i dont know how else to explain the michigan state game.

This year we'd probably be sitting at 8-2 right now with a mediocre QB. Worst qb room in CFB P5 History

Lol, raiola as assistant of the year after white is a ridiculous take. If the answer is any one but Knighton, its incorrect. The d line not only has a few successes of guys leveling up finally (nash and t rob) but clearly the future is bright as hell with the young guys. I'm sorry, and maybe I'm in the minority, but I haven't been overly impressed by the o line at all. Sure, the penalties have been down in recent weeks but so much of our rushing stats is padded by long QB runs on play breakdowns and some chunk runs here and there. If you take away johnson's 29 yard run in the 4th and chubba's rushes, our run game was pitiful this past weekend. I will give them kuddos for cleaning up the penalties recently but that should be expected given how undisciplined that unit has been for years on end. The only bright spot has been there's been zero drop off, and if anything, a bit cleaner play with the younger guys and teddy finally looking like hes somewhat back up to speed. I am hopeful the freshman on the team now, plus a couple key recruits this year will mean continued improvement and more depth- but I haven't see s#!t this year to be raving about raiola. I'll be impressed when I see us actually eat up a team in the run game or put away a team in the 4th. Its not like we're not calling run plays, its just inneffective and often leaves our offense in 2nd/3rd and long which is a disaster waiting to happen with turnover prone QBs (by disaster waiting to happen I mean we've tuned into disaster after disaster all season). Edit: @Toe for some reason I couldn';t quote the post you referenced, fyi, was more responding to that post lol

tell us how ya really feel In all seriousness, I admire your conviction and confidence in using the word "we". You even let it be known Rhule is included in that as well, cant argue against that

I agree with most of what you said . That being said, yesterday was completely inexcusable man. You simply cannot call a pass play that is across the field within the 10 with a 3rd string qb who hasn’t played all year. You’re right, many of these posts r ridiculous, but that play call was beyond ridiculous to the point where you can’t defend it. You can make a case that every single positional group has improved this year (excluding RB and WR due to injuries). The one group that has been an abject failure is the qb room. Sure, the qbs have made mistakes but at the end of the day, it’s a reflection of the coach at hand. Said coach not only has failed to develop and improve any of the qbs this year, he’s also consistently put this team in a position that simply doesn’t set us up to win games. He deserves another year but hot damn, I am not happy at all with what I’ve seen on the field vs what was sold to us in the off-season; it reaks of them telling us what we want to hear and then when it comes to the actual games it’s the complete opposite

I find it sadistically comical that frosty could move the ball but couldn’t play defense. And now we can’t move the ball but we can play defense….. what if Rhule brought in frosty for OC… lol …. kidding……….

PREACH

Isn’t it pretty telling that our 2 biggest plays this year was an option pass recommendation relayed from Osborne to Rhule? if anything, what they were advertising in the off-season is even more critical now with the injuries. I get we’re down RBs, but a FB or a TE in motion and some counters would work wonders to open up some holes for the run game and put the defense on the heels. Instead, we rarely have a lead blocker and defenses can just key in on either a read option to a rb that is slow developing or key in on a qb who is fast when he gets going but isn’t shifty or quick on the feet. I won’t even bother diving into the whole qb designed runs with sims who averages 3 fumbles a game It was our #1 defense, not offense

Fair; and thanks for the perspective bro. I just can’t stand his passing decisions in the red zone lol

I am genuinely curious, what has this offense shown or satt displayed that leaves you content with him So far? He owns the qb room and offense- every qb has the yips, he is putting them in a position to fail with so many of these calls. He calls NfL style passing designs within the redzone with no scholarship receivers and a qb who isn’t fit to be a p5 player. The chubba int today looked eerily similar to the Minnesota one. He’s calling qb option reads when said qbs lack Iq and ball security .

Because satt loves to keep the other team, our fans and the world guessing as to wtf is next

Everything you said in the first paragraph is right. A solid OC, however, calls a game to what he has. We clearly do not have a solid OC, not even close I haven’t had a single drink and I want him gone. We’re seeing the same baffling calls in the redzone we saw in week 1. We rarely see I, strong or weak running formations and instead see constant read option/delay option plays with QBs that have clearly shown below average IQ, decision making and ball security. there is not a single thing about this offense that resembles what was sold to us in the off-season and they somehow look more inept each week.

We have the worst qb room in p5 CFB history Rhule and Satt are skating on thin ice before credibility is completely loss. “We want to be power run, win with defense” the Minnesota game, last week and this s#!t show today were completely counter to this

The sad part is we don’t even need a good qb. A below average qb would have us at 7-3 right now. We quite possibly have the worst QB room in P5 CFB history.

You know what you don’t call? A long horizontal pass play with a short field, at home , with a 3rd string qb. he’s limited in options for sure but that play call is inexcusable for a HS cosch, much less the 2nd highest paid state employee

If Rhule and Satt could’ve just found a below average qb in the portal, we’d probably be 7-3 right now. We aren’t that far off, it just seems that way because Satt and Rhule have assembled quite possibly the worst QB room in p5 CFB history

Naw, this one might be worse than any frost had. Particularly if we lose to Wisconsin and Iowa. this was a clear display of incompetence to finest degree. Rhule should be ashamed