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No Stalions, no Harbaugh, no signs. M wins. Edit: coach Moore got away with an F-Bomb and an S-bomb in the post-game interview. The Big10 will probably suspend him for the rest of the season.

This is interesting. Although the dude is a off. https://www.foxnews.com/world/north-korea-closing-embassies-world-suspected-financial-crisis

I had no idea antisemitism ran so deep in these schools. The same UPenn got lights how last night. https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.timesofindia.com/world/us/anti-semitic-slogans-projected-on-university-of-pennsylvania-buildings/amp_articleshow/105130235.cms

There are a lot of lawyers on that board. I am not sure if they good ones. There are alot of Grammer Police on the board too. It's really annoying.

Me too. It will be fun to have Harbaugh there for Ryan Day's last game for OSU.

It's more about what is the proper punishment. If it is forfeit all games and awards for the past 2.5 years I would fight it. If it's a show cause for Stalions and some punishment for the head coach because the NCAA can hold them completely responsible, that seems fine. If the head coach punishment is indefinite suspension I would fight that too. The NCAA punishment would be for illegally scouting future opponents. The Big10 is a sportsmanship penalty. No idea what that has been for that in the past.

Haley is growing on me. Ramaswamy is a used car salesman. Haley once again mixed it up with Vivek Ramaswamy, who accused her of being "d!(k Cheney in 3-inch heels." "I'd first like to say they're 5-inch heels, and I don't wear them unless you can run in them," Haley shot back. The two also sparred after Ramaswamy brought Haley’s adult daughter into a discussion about TikTok, accusing Haley of hypocrisy as she preaches the dangers of the Chinese social media app. "Leave my daughter out of your voice," she said, before following up with, "You’re just scum."

In this case, I am not asking about whether Michigan broke rules. I suspect there is enough evidence to link Stalions to paying people to video tape games for the purpose of helping him get better at stealing signs, and Michigan used him for that skill set. This beaks the NCAA rule for scouting or paying people to scout future opponents in the same season. Now, for question my last question: Notice I didn't mention the accusation that OSU and Rutgers shared what the had developed with Purdue. Coaches would share game tape all the time when I played. There have been comments on X that suggest this signal stealing was a huge advantage for M over other teams, but some of those teams are accused of having Michigan's signals too. So where is the advantage? Maybe it is that Stalions had more material to work with so it didn't take him as long to figure out the signals?

Did I accuse someone of something? I think I am just posting what other boards are saying (the bloggers and insiders could be wrong about a lot of it). What I think I know for sure is that Stallions is an odd duck and trust fund baby that paid people to film games and used that video to help him get better at stealing signs for Michigan. This violated the NCAA rule against scouting or paying people to scout future opponents in the same season. NCAA is investigating. Big10 served M with the allegations and M responded. M is also leaking their own allegations of sign stealing done by other teams. M probably has no intention of self punishment like they did for the cheeseburgers, and it seems like they are gearing up to fight it.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/2023/11/08/sign-stealing-ncaa-helmet-communications-sideline-tablets-in-college-football-bowl-games/71501460007/ Looks like approval for helmet comms is starting.

What is wrong with posting what they are thinking or writing about? the bloggers and insiders might not be correct, so I try and preface the posts with the word 'IF'.

IF Purdue, OSU and Rutgers had Michigan's signals last year, was there a competitive advantage in those games?

You assume this is legit. We are in an age of anything and everything getting thrown out on the net.

I heard that Michigan hired Williams and Connolly to go up against the Big10. They are a large firm. I guess this is going to war. It will be interesting to see how it all flushes out. I guess it's time to sit back, relax, and watch the dirt fly. Michigan is known to just rollover and expose their belly for a nice scratch. Not this time. Maybe they just get booted from the Big10.

Why would a running back who is probably getting paid more than he will in the NFL investing in a vacuum cleaner business? That is just weird. BI did see something about Stalions neighbors complaining about vacuums outside of his new house. That dude was really weird and has very rich parents that enable him. I am not sure how he made it through boot camp at Pendleton.

I haven't watched NFL closely enough to know whether they use signals from the sideline. I think Manning used to call his own audibles. Is it pretty much on the QB in the NFL? is it college that only does signs from the sidelines?

so why don’t teams want headsets? https://newsletters.yahoo.net/H/2/v60000018baecf39de90c17d6e96638858/cb4183be-f1a9-450c-8abf-c0e1887ce359/HTML Last Friday, however, Michigan presented the Big Ten with evidence that someone on the Rutgers football staff provided Michigan’s defensive signals to Purdue in advance of the Boilermaker-Wolverine 2022 Big Ten title game. Meanwhile, someone at Ohio State handed over U of M’s offensive signals. So in the Big Ten Championship Game, both teams had the other’s signals, both of which were gathered via advanced scouting. (Michigan won, 43-22.) In Michigan’s case, the “advanced scouts” were Stalions’ band of iPhone-toting buddies. In Purdue’s case, the “advanced scouts” were the professional coaching staffs of two other Big Ten teams that had just played the Wolverines, and thus could battle-test the signs they stole as accurate. Which would you rather have? Raw cell phone footage that still needs to be broken down, or highly experienced coaches just handing over their work? Everyone would choose the Purdue option. Even if Ohio State and Rutgers acquired Michigan signs via NCAA-legal game film or during game action, it doesn’t matter. Purdue didn’t do that work. The Boilermakers received stolen signs from advanced scouting. They cheated as much as Michigan.

One man's opinion, but it plays into my 'legal action to delay the penalties' theory Michigan has received notice from the Big Ten indicating specific sign stealing allegations but it does not indicate what penalties would be administered, UM sources told @ActionNetworkHQ . UM has until Wednesday to respond to Big Ten, source said. The Big Ten’s pursuit of penalties against Michigan and/or Jim Harbaugh is viewed as a “PR stunt” in response to public pressure & in light of the conference’s lack of action up to this point, source said. UM will legally fight any disciplinary actions, which potentially would block any suspensions from occurring this season, sources said

Well shoot me. Below is what I read on Mgo on Oct 30th. They are usually thorough. The rule was changed this off season according to them. The big question. The NCAA changed their rules this offseason to make it harder for head coaches to dodge responsibility when their underlings break rules. The text of the change: Saying "I didn't know" is no longer good enough, and the punishment is now mitigatable but draconian: Connor Stalions is getting a billion-year show cause and without mitigation the NCAA can just slap that same penalty on Harbaugh. How do you mitigate? There are a bunch of individual bullet points that can be taken in a coach's favor ("Actively soliciting feedback to determine if compliance systems are functioning properly," etc.) that both links in this section list. The NCAA released a guideline about how they're going to enforce this rule:

It came from the guy who did the spreadsheet for ....now we know...OSU and Rutgers. Coach Schiano was at OSU before going back to Rutgers. This guy came forward to Pete Thamel (ESPN) 1.5 weeks ago, but Thamel did not report on it. Perhaps Pete found the source not credible...or this reporting is all BS. I mean the media tends to report now and let the facts fall out later.

I will see if I can gather the links, but the boards and bloggers are blowing up about what is about to come out of the Michigan athletic department. This is step one. Naming names. Summary: Michigan has been collecting violations by other teams in the Big Ten for years. A 'break in case of emergency' if you will. The claim is that Michigan brought some of these violations to the Big10 and NCAA, but nothing was done. Its not just the signal stealing above. Most are pay for play pre NIL, and the most recent are paying kids to visit. Names of the kids, how much and when. They have started leaking slowly and will go full throttle depending on the actions of the Big10. The latest conspiracy is ....that ESPN wants this to happen. Imagine a world were Michigan gets pissed and leaves. It wouldn't be the first time. Not sure what the GOR is for Big10 teams, but I wonder if they tie into the start of new TV contracts. With the new teams coming in this is probably not a big issue, but I guess The Game would be done, and FOX might get a little peaved. MSU would have to find a new nemesis. Edit: Sorry that NU was clued into the dirty Big10. Maybe NU is one of the few clean programs.

Yup. That is a new rule this year. The head coach is only off the hook if the team can show proper training and continual oversight in the area of the violation...which even if Harbaugh didn't know... I doubt Michigan did that oversight. You would have to scrutinize all material used by the signal stealer

That makes sense. I guess it's going to look bad one way or another. I watched the reply. It did not look like a fair catch signal to me, but maybe just waving your arm back and forth below chest level counts.

Then they should have blown the whistle right away or at least while he was running down the field if the refs believed that. As far as the most corrupt, it might be a toss up. The stories that came to mind for me were the cover ups and pay off for doctors doing bad things…and a coach or two…at UofM, PSU, MSU and OSU.

I have never heard of this organization, but I am not surprised by the UNs anti semitism. The US needs to find a way to selectively funds the useful parts of the UN and defund the wasteful parts. Maybe that is whole thing at this point. The U.K.-based Institute for Monitoring Peace and Cultural Tolerance in School Education (IMPACT-se) wrote in its 123-page report released Monday, that "at least 14 teachers and staff at UNRWA (United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees) schools have publicly celebrated the October 7 massacre and other Hamas attacks on their social media accounts." IMPACT-se CEO Marcus Sheff said, "Time and again we have warned that UNRWA staff and school materials have created a breeding ground for terror. Our worst fears have now been tragically realized with the horrific attack on Oct. 7. All governments that fund UNWRA, including the United States, must urgently review and concurrently freeze financial support to UNRWA to help ensure that another generation is not lost to the evils of hatred and incitement." The report reveals that Mahmoud Abu Adhm, an UNRWA employee in Gaza, posted numerous pro-Hamas messages in support of the Oct. 7 atrocities. On Oct. 10, he encouraged Hamas to murder Israeli hostages, stating, "Do not walk past a captive who has not been given amnesty without striking off his neck so as to terrorize the enemy." He cited Islamic texts that promote cruelty toward the enemy, noted IMPACT-se. Afaf Talab, a teacher who the IMPACT-se report says is employed by UNRWA, shared on his Facebook page a video in which the Hamas massacre is termed the "first real victory" on the way to liberating all Palestinians.