alwayshusking

If you can get through the 2017 and 2018 seasons you are a real fan.

I don't think its pure BS but shows how weak they were coming in. Michigan has been lifting properly for 4 years. Less than 1 for us. And they've recruited significantly better. And they are more experienced. We still have a weak mentality. I could go on and on.

We ran 26 plays for 17 yards. Don Brown is good and Michigan has good talent but that is pathetic.

17 yards in the first half. We have a long way to go.

Nice I remember people saying we would lose out on both him and Henrich. Frost is building this thing.

These are the milestones that need to be remembered. These are days.

If Martinez is healthy we could look pretty good by midseason imo. Wouldn't put money on it but I think we'll have some moments if he's healthy.

You can see some of the pieces of the puzzle but it isn't ready to be completed yet. Excited to watch the next few seasons.

This is the positives thread

Don't want to tell others how to be fans bc that's silly. But I look at this as a ground up rebuild. Frost literally needs to fix every facet of the program to get back to where we were under Osborne. I am going to enjoy watching us improve and believe he's the guy. Could I be wrong? Maybe, but the odds are low imo. GBR

Outyarded both opponents by 100+ yards and had better yards per play than both. We've found ways to lose each game. Clean things up and we could be formidable. One game played with a walk on QB. Not all is lost.

Martinez looks like our most dynamic player imo. They are both pups I think the future is bright.

Frost doesn't think that way. He knows this team can get better and is an ultra competitor. Realistic or not we haven't lost a conference game yet. The west looks open at this point.

I agree I think Iowa and Wis are interchangeable but Iowa has home field adv. If Martinez gets healthy I think we'll start looking pretty good.

I think it is more of a we've hit hard times now we'll see who really wants to be here. I think they will respond. This team still has a lot to learn about championship level effort and intensity. They seem like good kids that want to learn but they are a long way from the mentality of the teams Scott played with in the 90s. To be expected.

Many thought this was their best team. They're hurting.

I think our running game is much better, especially with Martinez in the line up. We're going through some growing pains but things are improved there. Bunch didn't give us much today in that area. Didn't threaten Troy in the passing game either making us easy to defend.

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Could you both be right? I think so. Bunch made a lot of bad reads throughout the day and that includes the running game. A number of his throws were swing passes, basically running plays.

Exactly. This system is extremely favorable, just wait until Frost gets all the guys he needs in it with some experience. We're going to have a heck of a lot of fun.

Long story short for me

Give Troy some credit on defense. They had some good blitzes to make us uncomfortable in the run game and they knew Bunch couldn't beat them in the pass game.

Disagree. You don't panic after Y1. The blood lust sacrifices start after Y2 at the earliest. Austin turned a terrible OL at UCF into an excellent one in Y2. We are already playing better at OLB with DeWitt. Frost may need to put more attention to ST.

1. If Bunch played the whole game vs CU I think we get blown out. We were easy to defend today. 2. Yes. Masker is way behind even Bunch. Gebbia should be leading us right now but oh well. 3. Time 4. Stay the course imo, don't overreact to a sloppy start. Outside of special teams I think this is a very good coaching staff.

Learned we are likely to go 0-3 to start the season. Even with Martinez, winning at Michigan is a longshot. As Frost said today "It's always darkest before the dawn".