Redux

I have a problem with the government. The vaccine itself isn't the issue here, the people enforcing it are. Take it or lose your job isn't a choice for most of Americans, not the Americans that have worked through this entire pandemic. We already have a shortage of people willing to work, the mandate will reduce that number even further. Do you not see a problem with this? Why aren't members of Congress/White house and their staffers exempt from the mandate? Seems awfully hypocritical. Not sure the validity, but also among tha list CDC workers, Phizer etc. employees, judges. I saw it said best the other day: "Inserting needles and chemicals into people without there consent would be considered violence. So deprivation of basic human rights because they won't give consent is also violence."

It was inferred, and Frott already made that accusation previously

I'm not antivax, and using the label as some form of deterrent just because I think the current mandate is bulls#!t is a strawman. Please, don't equate the two. It's not the same and we both know it and this isn't the thread. Seriously bad faith argument.

Get the vax, or be fired/quit, @Frott Scost says that's a choice. There's really nothing else to say on the matter at this point, it's pretty sad that people actually believe this and are championing it as something noble.

Just, no. He is literally saying people have a choice between 1) getting fired or 2) getting vaxxed. That isn't a choice and only someone completely dense to the obvious woulf believe that. And he keeps ignoring that no, not everyone even has the choice between vax and weekly testing. That's not reality, as I've said multiple times now. The government requiring it's employees is different than the government requiring a business to require their employees. You can pretend it's not different, but it is.

Congratulations, this may be the worst line of thinking I've heard all month.

You seem to not understand the situation at hand, and it's clearly intentional. Bliss I guess . For the 3rd time though, No. Not EVERYONE is being given the option you're clinging to. And the employers are requiring it because why? Because THE GOVERNMENT WILL FINE THEM THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS if they don't. I don't feel the need to flex online about my vaccinations. It's ridiculous, and reflects poorly on those that do for clout.

Justify it however you want, we both know what we meant No, it's not. And you know it's not.

You'll celebrate when the government is allowed to force what choices you have concerning your body and health?

Since you missed/ignored it the first time

I'm not looking forward to this at all, feeling like 2008 game where we get steamrolled. Wish I could be optimistic.

And the Strawman deflection completes it. I accept your concession.

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This is just embarrassing "Blinken admits he doesn't know who the US killed in a drone strike on Kabul: Secretary of State says the administration isn't sure whether it killed an ISIS-K terrorist or an aid worker" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9990983/Blinken-admits-doesnt-know-killed-drone-strike-Kabul.html

Uh huh, and those that don't? That would be what? That's right, MANDATORY! As explained above. And at this rate, do you honestly think it won't be a full scale MANDATORY at some point?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/09/10/what-you-need-to-know-about-president-joe-bidens-new-vaccine-mandates.html Gonna keep pretending? I guess you can, or you can listen to Joe himself when he said "Our patience is wearing thing".

You're pretending there is. Not surprised

Ah, so we are pretending

Why would I answer a question we both know the answer to already? It is being made mandatory, take it or lose your job. Enforce it, or be fined thousands of dollars. Or are we pretending mandatory doesn't mean mandatory?

Clearly

Until the next election, it's about Biden. If the Democrats continue this delusion that nothing besides besting Trump matters, the tailspin will end in a crash.

It's not about Trump anymore though. And of course they are and of course he will. And given how this Biden experiment has panned out, it'll be a red landslide at this rate. I still expect President Kamala by Spring/Summer '22.

Aww, she must feel attention deprived.