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I'd say it's the other way around. CSU>>>>>CU lately

1-5 in division. Setting up for another trainwreck of a season. Riley is a career .500 coach for a reason.

That's not including the '15 class of what was it, 21?I'd like to see those numbers in better context, but I expect Riley to start building these numbers back up. I'm actually really surprised by the 44 number. 1992 loss to Iowa State is the only other loss that compares to Purdue '15 in the modern era. Absolute bottom of the barrel, even with the excuses.

Knocked.out.of.the.park

Oh please, oh please, oh PLEASE!! Just one more 'adventure'...

What? Lol. So I guess you'd be okay with us skimming by with 11-1 seasons until we get crushed by a better program much like MSU getting embarrassed by Alabama. The 90's Husker teams were a combination of great talent and great coaching. You have to have the right horses (players).The mentality expressed in your post (and some others here) is exactly what almost got Osborne run out. Because what happen to MSU was reminiscent of some Husker teams, too. Of course you need both. Never said you didn't. But if forced to choose, I'd take elite coaching over talent because all of the talent in the world can't win a championship on its own (maybe the 2001 hurricanes being an exception, though I think Coker was a little unfairly maligned and the U has been missing him). My point is, at a place like Nebraska, which never has and never will consistently (legally) field top 10 recruiting classes, you need to lean on superior coaching and wait for the pieces to fall into place for a special run. It's why that "measely .700 standard" is actually meaningful. Because only a very good coach can maintain that and it keeps NU poised for a better run. Hoping to hire a bunch of "great recruiters" and riding a talent wave to a championship won't bear the fruit that some of you seem to think it will, imo. Bravo. Well stated.

Unless they dramatically exceed the * average they have verballed thus far for the last half dozen recruits (highly unlikely, IMO) the best they can hope for is a class around 25-30 based on current rankings/commit #'s/ and * averages of the teams ahead of them. No way that translates to an A grade, especially since they now have unprecedented resources and budget that no Nebraska coach has EVER had. IMO, this grade is currently C - or worse, based purely on ROI. This class is indistinguishable from those preceding it at 2-3X the cost. Two of the current top 5 recruits verballed to the previous staff, and they lost one of the top 5 that had done the same. Every decent recruit they were '"In the mix" with the last month that declared committed elsewhere, while we picked up a KOS/P and a quick commit/decommit from another 3* kid. I view this class as squandering a ton of goodwill and early (previous staff/spring/summer) momentum due to incompetent coaching during the season, putting the staff on a very real hot seat. It would be cake to negative recruit against Riley, as a losing season means you WILL be fired eventually. No coach at NU has survived a 6-7 loss season for more than a couple years. They will get some bump from the late rally, but the damage was done mid-season. Farniok is the one to watch. He was a slam dunk under any staff here...if he goes elsewhere, that is a horrible, horrible sign.

Dennis Wagner was the OL coach under Callahan. Came here with a good resume and underwhelmed. Callahan was a famous micromanager on the OL. Wagner's parting comments were telling, as I recall.

And the last shreds of winning are finally eliminated...

In a game of musical chairs vs. 24 other FBS schools where we risk Mikey<.500 against the unknown, I'd put money on our fat red polyester-wearing butt still getting a much better seat than we did last year.

Agree with most of this post, especially re; Herman. He is even more sure-fire than McElwain was last year, IMO. Missed the boat on him last year. I am of the opinion that a Frost hire is the type of mulligan we would ultimately be forgiven for in the big picture and involves significant less risk to the program than retaining Riley only to dump him in a year or two. Oops, we screwed up! Trusted someone to hire a new coach to run our program who didn't know what he was doing and didn't interview enough candidates. We fixed the glitch! Here's the guy we meant to hire. Frost would have for more support on day 1 than Riley did or ever will. KSU is an interesting one. Snyder lobbying for his kid...probably ain't gonna happen, especially on a losing skid, and the nepotism hires (whether good or bad, deserving or not) just don't pass muster at a state institution these days. (Recall Ferentz having to undergo a review ober hiring his son as OL coach at Iowa a few years back) Sets up a pontentially acrimonious split with the Snyder Family (Stadium). Who are they gonna hire to negotiate that situation and appease Granny Bill?

One lineman and One RB. Let's not get carried away here. So far. And when was the last time two players voluntarily quit mid-season, on the same day, for reasons other than injury? I will be concerned when it's actual contributors quitting Like Ross Pilkington? That was a raging clue that Callahan was a complete dickhole. That is a very good example. Jordan Stevenson and Matt Finnin are not. I didn't mean to either conflate the two situations or imply that they were similar. Just pointing out that Callahan was a dickhole...and Ross Pilkington was a captain, I believe. It spoke volumes to me then.

Anyone advocating that Riley run players off NOW is just setting us up for bigger disaster under the next HC. We were lucky not to lose upwards of 10 to transfer or more including the recruiting class (which I give fair credit to the current staff for the job they did in mitigating that damage. It boggles the mind that people are actually advocating we actively purge talent from this roster in favor of "Riley recruits." I'm sorry, but that is more short-sighted than firing a disaster of a staff...which WiLL happen, sooner than later.

One lineman and One RB. Let's not get carried away here. So far. And when was the last time two players voluntarily quit mid-season, on the same day, for reasons other than injury? I will be concerned when it's actual contributors quitting Like Ross Pilkington? That was a raging clue that Callahan was a complete dickhole.

Truly amazing.