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The recruiting knock on Campbell is fair, but it's already been confirmed that Mickey will be retained as AHC by Steve Wiltfong, so it's fair to assume there won't be a fall-off. Another key piece of his recruiting results is the fact that ISU has a really underdeveloped NIL program. He's going to have tools he's never used and would stand a much better chance in deep waters. This is actually true about any we'd hire outside of Stoops, since UK has a pretty solid NIL base to work with.

He's the best coach among them

Thanks. Obviously walk-ons are an important depth piece and great for ethos, but there are so many hours available for development and technique. It's pretty obvious that this was an area that killed Frost's staff.

It's really understated how hard it is to develop and build relationships with your scholarship players when walk-ons get non-zero minutes in practice. Not saying it's the cause, but it's definitely contributed to attrition in some respect. Imagine being a 4* from Miami, it's cold, it's tough enough to adjust, and your coach is spending 15 minutes each practice helping Sammy from McCook work on his hand placement he's only going to use in the spring game. Doesn't seem like a serious way to approach development. Agreed. Not sure why everything needs to be a family reunion. Sure, pay homage and all but none of these guys (even Osborne) are ultimately accountable for the football product. It's unprofessional. Maybe there's some idealism there as those guys have a lot of sway with fans and are good for PR, but I'm hoping they can be set straight and just let the next guy coach.

This shouldn't be so difficult to understand. It takes a lot of work to take a program from 3-9 to 9-3. The distance between 3 and 9 wins is way shorter than 9 and 12. Clemson may never get back there. You've gotta get there first though.

Candidates and their games this weekend: Leipold - Kansas at Houston Campbell - Ohio at Iowa State Deboer - Michigan State at Washington O'Brien - UL-M at Alabama Leonhard - NMSU at Wisconsin Patterson - UTSA at Texas Kleiman - Tulane at Kansas State Aranda - Texas State at Baylor Big stock moving week for Kansas and Washington.

I've heard the urban/grinder so many times and it's still so funny to me

My opinion on expectations and Nebraska's ceiling is that the 12-team playoff is something a program like ours should be competitive in entering. Maybe not every year unless there's real improvement in development that I can't account for, but given recruiting, schedule, and an improvement in development I can expect with a good hire we should be flirting with it after year 4, since that's about how long it takes for that development to show. Georgia, Ohio State, and Alabama are the only three programs capable of winning a national title in the next two years. Clemson and Texas A&M have worked towards it for half a decade and we haven't even started that process so we're at least six years away. That standard is completely unrealistic. So yes, ten years from now assuming we're dealing with the same coach and nothing bad has happened, sure we should be highly competitive and in the playoff conversation every year. Iowa State is a bad, bad program. Worse than us in almost every way historically, financially, and politically. The fact that he had them in that 12-team group once is an absolute miracle. Sure, he's lost some games and I'm not completely sold on the guy, but he gets you there. Lance Leipold in four years had Buffalo winning like they never had before and has half their winning seasons in that short amount of time. I think he's pretty conservative in-game but he made an absolute monster program at Whitewater and revived Buffalo. He's currently reviving Kansas which was about to drop football completely before he arrived. They were on a 49 game road losing streak when he arrived and he's 2-3 on the road since. The man works miracles. He's also meticulous in process improvement which is the #1 thing that we have lacked in since Solich left. Read further into Leipold beyond his W/L and you'll be impressed. This roster is terrible and development needs to start from scratch and he's got a proven record of doing it. Those two are not the only two that can get it done but they'd do it. If Urban Meyer, Dave Aranda, or Matt Rhule don't walk through the door, we still need to hire someone. I'm assuming those three are the first calls because yes, Urban Meyer will at least get a chance to say no.

This is kinda the end-all be-all for an explanation. Any rumors or stories are symptoms. I'm over it personally. Story's been written. I think Trev's the right guy for the season for two reasons - A Nebraska guy needs to tell Nebraskans that the past is behind the program, and he seems rational enough to put that into action. Hire someone process oriented. A grinder. Do we have eager boosters? Yes. Did they involve themselves in personnel decisions? Likely. Will that continue based on the current trajectory? Seems that those decisions will be made by qualified candidates this cycle and in cycles to come. I don't think Whipple was a booster hire, for example. He's unsexy, process oriented, and doesn't generate buzz.

Did some light reading up on Leipold this evening and I am seriously impressed on a deeper dive. Philosophies are fantastic, as are reviews from his time rebuilding Buffalo. Guy pretty much rebuilt high school football in upstate New York. Reminds me a ton of Bo Ryan. Couple fun facts: - 6 D3 National Titles - At one point had a 100-6 record (!!!) - Fastest coach in NCAA history to 100 wins. This guy is serious and will turn Kansas into something respectable faster than anyone thought possible. I’d be pretty happy with the hire.

Double that. Worth every penny

Got family that are Iowa fans so I follow them pretty closely. Parker doesn't want to be a HC. He's had multiple offers (Big Ten, MAC, ACC) schools and never entertained it. His dad Norm was Iowa's DC from '99-2011. Some guys are just happy with their jobs. Levar Woods will be a fantastic HC when he decides to leave (which could be as soon as this year). I'd like to see him as one before we hired him but he has a bright future.

Holy s#!t dude, do you honestly believe anyone can do better??? We have zero depth across any position of importance and haven't recruited high schools well since Frost was hired. This is a total rebuild.

The standard for Scott was high this season. He'd have been fired at the end of last year but there were significant financial considerations. Mickey is going to get grace. He won't be fired at the end of the year for any win-loss reasons barring anything wild. He will, however, be compared to about 20 other candidates for the job, so the standard is high.

Frost isn't the coach anymore. That's a strawman argument. It would have been hard for USC, let alone BYU to travel across the country at the end of the season and play an option team without practice or real film study. Defensively, they shut them down. That's not proof of concept.

Ian McCaw - Former Baylor AD and current Liberty AD. Freeze's "spiritual advisor". Baylor is private so it's impossible to say how involved he was in the rape coverup but he certainly was. Liberty is bungling its own issue with sexual assault and he's central to their mismanagement of it there. Here's a read about McCaw's involvement of it: https://www.si.com/college/2018/07/21/baylor-sexual-assault-scandal-ian-mccaw-art-briles-regents-police Freeze also recently went at an alleged sexual assault victim completely unsolicited for criticizing McCaw: https://brobible.com/sports/article/hugh-freeze-chelsea-andrews-liberty-twitter/ Freeze is also a psychopath who frequently name-searches on twitter and attacks his critics unsolicited. It would be extremely embarassing for this to happen at Nebraska and it absolutely would. Guy is a PR, compliance, and ethics nightmare.

I don't want to be involved with anyone who carries water for the guys behind the Baylor rape coverup.

I'm not sure what Mickey could have done at this point to impress anyone as a head coach. Recruiter, sure. I think a lot of us are hopeful and prisoners of the moment. Rightfully so, I mean this an exciting time. Bringing Frost back just to fire him gives Mickey a great chance to provide a sample size and Trev a great chance to evaluate him. It's foolish to use his record this year to measure his success but he has a pretty high bar if he wants consideration as an actual head coach.

BYU beat us a decade ago when both programs had different coaches, that's a terrible comp and means nothing. Coastal beat BYU with four days notice at home at the end of the weirdest season in CFB history. That win doesn't really impress me given context. They weren't division 2, they were FCS. There is very little, if any, difference between your average sun belt team and good FCS team. Grayson McCall is a really good quarterback. I have to give him some credit for scheming him well, but they haven't played anyone in the P5 that's had a week to prepare for it aside from Kansas. BYU did pretty well to shut it down with four days to prepare. There's zero proof that it works against a defense he'd play here with time to prepare. Seems like fools gold to me.

Intangibles are all that changes. Morale, optimism, body language. That can translate into guys playing harder and more focused since the shadow is gone but I don't see anything changing schematically. You're not going to magically fit the run better but guys may be more coachable now.

+1 your point about linear progression - we agree. The roster is set up for serious regression after next year. That said, this team should be bowling by year 3 and missing a bowl game should be cause for concern after that. It's definitely going to look closer to your projection because it has more variance but the absolute floor will be 6 wins going forward. I worry about next year, with a ton of returning starters will set up for the same disappointment we're experiencing this year. The portal will help and likely improve upon what I think but it's impossible to project what you can pull out of the portal.

Year 1: 6 wins. Year 2: 5 wins. Year 3: 5-7 wins. Year 4: 7-8 wins. This should not be a losing season. Year 5: 7-9 wins. Year 6-7: I want a team that can win 10 games. You don't have to, but I want to see proof that you can. By Year 8 you should be consistently finishing in the top 25 and competing for a spot in the 12-team playoff. Year 1 won't tell me much but how much better a gameday coach we are. Are we making dumb mistakes? Year 2 will tell me more about Frost than the new guy. There are very serious depth issues that need to be fixed via HS recruiting. It's hard to project how we'd portal since there's so much variance in results anytime you portal someone in. This is going to be a tough year depth-wise. Year 3 is where we see proof of concept. Can we be tough? Can we recruit some depth? Maybe some freshmen show out. I want to be hopeful after year 3. Year 4 - can you win with your scheme, your guys, and ultimately your program? I'm happy with a bowl here. Year 5 - I want to be in the hunt for a division title. Development should be evident and we should be consistently winning the games that matter. Along the way we should see serious improvement in HS recruiting and the quantity of guys that go in rounds 3-7 of the draft.

I'm sure he's a fine coach but there are about 10 other candidates equally qualified. It concerns me that Drinkwitz and Satterfield are both on the hot seat themselves.

They've got decent talent, but he's as consistent as anyone. Missed bowl season once in his first year as a head coach. OK State has appeared in the AP poll every single year since 2008. His teams have never been eliminated from the conference race early. A guy with his record shouldn't be interested but there's a ton of friction where he is. He interviewed for Tennessee recently and has made some really odd comments about T Boone Pickens in the media that indicate it. He's also gone on the record to complain about conference realignment a ton as of late, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if it weighed heavy on his decision-making. I am confident that he'd be able to put any program in the P5 in the 12-team playoff consistently based on his resume.

@ColoradoHusk @HuskerNation1 DeBoer is still an option IMO. Personally I think he's a great one. A bit of a slim resume and the contract probably makes it tough but I really like him as a coach and as a fit for Nebraska. I think he would be coaching right now if we'd pulled the trigger at the end of last year.