JTrain

Come on man, he was coaching at Youngstown State this year, and not even in one of the coordinator positions. It was pretty cool to see the world's fattest coach on the sideline when they visited USD though, the entire playing field kind of dipped towards wherever he was standing. So what happens if Bo hires Marvin Sanders again? He's currently a high school coach. Or any other new coach to learn on the job. Mangino won an Orange Bowl, this was a good hire by ISU and it's one Bo could have made a few years ago. Stay classy, ISU.

Not only is the current trophy unique, it's legitimately the best-looking trophy in sports.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuSCwR4Uv8g?t=58m21s NBC had an announcer in the coaches booth telling the national audience the playcall 30 seconds before the snap. I realize it was the 70s, but wow.

Kind of funny that we all forgot about that one. Had Alex Henrey been on that Husker team.... well, we would have won the NC. How that would have changed history as it relates to the motivation level to win our other titles... we will never know. Bowl game: January 1, 1994 Alex Henery born on August 18, 1987 Not sure how far a six year old could kick a ball, but what ever. . . It's not just any six year old...

I'll address this portion and ignore that old-people-comic-sans-mass-email style of your writing, as well as the bizarre political rant. There is a Head-to-Head Fallacy that most people intuitively believe in: If two teams with similar or equal records play each other, the winner must be ranked ahead of the loser in a fair ranking system. This is totally false. The ranking depends on the whole season, of which the head-to-head game is but one small part. The winner of the head-to-head may move ahead of the loser, assuming their other results led to a rating close enough to the loser's. But if not, they may very well rightly still be ranked behind the loser. So your conclusion is right (even if you didn't get to it for the right reasons). Each game is of equal weight and you can not look at one result in a vacuum and then try to modify your whole system to fit that result. The fallacy becomes clear when you look at three teams that beat each other (think rock, paper, scissors). All games count towards the final ranking but you can not throw arbitrary value on one game result to try to force the whole system to match your intuition. Yet the intuition is so strong that pollsters inevitably do this all the time, trying force a team like UCF above Baylor because of that one game. If you look at unbiased systems that weigh all results equally, the UCF win over Baylor will certainly help UCF and hurt Baylor, but it won't just shoot UCF up as many spots as it takes to get above Baylor, crashing the logic of the entire system. When looked at as a whole, Baylor's season was a better accomplishment than UCF's. That includes the game between the two, but it also includes all other 25 games with equal weight. http://masseyratings.../cf/compare.htm

Can I have :30 put back for the time I spent skimming this thread?

What Landlord is trying to say in an apparently-too-subtle and undoubtedly-too-long way is: Winston was never tried for, much less convicted of, sexual assault or rape.

The rumor was around other boards before that tweet. And it was in regards to the fall semester, not the one that started two days ago. Figured that much would be obvious. He seems confident that he is fine though.

Not true. TAMU was #10 when Manziel won it. Baylor was #15 when RG3 won it. When Tebow won it they were 9-4 and #13. You have to be on a good team, but certainly not the best, or even top five.

With today's offenses, quarterbacks have outrageous numbers and have a huge upper-hand over running backs. For a running back to win it, he has to: Be the best player on a top two team, AND/OR Have outrageous, eye-popping numbers, AND/OR Play in a year with a weak field of QBs #3 certainly won't be true next year, and #1 probably won't be true. So he'll have to try for eye-popping numbers. Andre Williams' 2100 yards wasn't quite enough to crack the top 3 this year. So maybe shoot for 2200, 300 receiving and being a top 10 team. I think that would crack the top 3.

After reading the thread, it sounds to me like we just need a better QB, better O-line, better playcaller and better strategy. We're that close to being an elite offense. All the other pieces are in place.

9-3 seems about right to me at this point. That would put us around 20-25.

It's easy to focus on their finish, but overall their schedule was weaker than most of the top 10. There aren't many unbiased systems that have them third, much less second.

I heard academic issues...

NationalChamps.net 1. Florida State 2. Alabama 3. Auburn 4. Stanford 5. Oregon 6. Michigan State 7. Louisiana State 8. Ohio State 9. Baylor 10. UCF 11. UCLA 12. Texas A&M 13. South Carolina 14. Louisville 15. Southern California 16. Oklahoma 17. Clemson 18. Georgia 19. Missouri 20. Arizona State 21. Oregon State 22. Notre Dame 23. Florida 24. Minnesota 25. Ole Miss Others receiving consideration (26-38): Duke Houston Iowa Maryland Miami FL Michigan Mississippi State Nebraska Northwestern North Carolina Oklahoma State Washington Wisconsin Mark Schlabach, ESPN Click here for full list 1. FSU 15. Wisconsin 21. Iowa Athlon Click here for full list 1. FSU 14. Wisconsin 26. Iowa Nebraska is "others to watch" (31-49) Jerry Hinnen, CBS Sports Click here for full list 1. FSU 18. Wisconsin Iowa "Also considered"

Coaches: 25 AP: 26 Rothman: 33 Massey: 36 Sagarin: 38

Man those announcers HATED us tonight! I didn't hear them talk about us ONCE!! #E$ECPN Also how the hell do they have cheater woManziel and $EC NFL failure tebow but not T-MAGIC in the celebrity watch booth?! What kind of crap is that???

Oklahomahuskers aka John Lehmen step up and claim your prize.

My point had nothing to do with the logic of the arguments one way or the other. And, my point is that when you make comments on a public forum be prepared to have people disagree with you. You can go somewhere on the internet and find someone that will agree with pretty much anything you write. But, there will also be people who disagree with you. Now, I'm fine with criticism as long as it's based on factual information. I do find it odd that after a big win some fans (not necessarily talking about you) will come on here and almost every single post of theirs will be negative. I really question their mind set towards the team and program. People get into a habit of complaining about particular things. Now, those particular things may improve and some people will still complain about those same things when the facts don't back up their claim. A prime example is when someone complains that Beck abandoned the run. Gee...he only passed 16 times all game. Someone then put out the stats that showed he didn't throw the ball any more at the end of the game than the beginning. He didn't abandon the run and I'm not sure how many more running plays they want him to run. But, it's a habit to complain about that. Another one is complaining about our O line. Sure, we don't have the best O line in the country. But, they have come a very long ways from where they were 3-5 years ago. We have a top 20 rushing attack and top 25 in sacks allowed. Is there room for improvement? Sure, there always is but you don't have that success without at least a decent O line. We had an RB run for over 1500 yards. Again, not possible without a decent O line. So, yes, criticizing is perfectly fine. But, when it is based on something other than what is really happening, then it will be questioned when put on a public board. My point had nothing to do with the logic of the arguments one way or the other. Neither did mine.

Would be interesting to see how recruiting would have been in 98 and 99. We were one or two guys away from being a title contender in 2000.

Bring back Marvin. If he's figured out how to keep the D in the pants, he can serve as a mentor to Moss.