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Big ERN: i like the quote below... "Never cut a tree down in the wintertime. Never make a negative decision in the low time. Never make your most important decisions when you are in your worst moods. Wait. Be patient. The storm will pass. The spring will come." who is that from?

limiting the next coach to being a Nebraska guy would be a tragic mistake. limiting that search in any way would be a mistake. I agree junior...

Unless he wants to will be key.... I wouldn't be surprised or blame him if he left after the season. cannot, of course, know for sure, but...I'd have to think Bo might appreciate a new fresh start elsewhere... again, I cannot say for certain, but at this juncture work at NU is unlikely to be much fun for Bo or his staff. It should not surprise anyone if Bo was looking at an exit strategy as we speak. Might not be... but if heis it certainly would be reasonable given the context. irrespective of who should or should not be blamed or who caused what... the circumstances at NU for Bo are way, way less than ideal.

This. He shouldn't even apologized for that tape. It was the heat of the moment. People piling on him so mad about what he said are disingenuous. As if every one hasn't been so mad they say things that don't mean. Enough already. He was speaking honestly about the situation and he, and the players should have been mad at the fans that booed and left the game at halftime. This entire story should be a non issue. It happened 2 years ago. so he was "speaking honestly" about that "which he did not mean". How does that work?

Unless Urban Meyer lets Bo borrow the trophy --- Bo is out of luck.

Many people here recognized that coaching quality was a problem... long, long before the UCLA game. Some saw this 2... even 3 years ago. That said, I think Enhance is right... many posters were not in agreement with the premise that there was a coaching quality problem --- and I'm guessing here (and my not be correct) --- but I think many denied the coaching flaws out of desire for it not to be true --- they denied the coaching problems for as long as they could. After UCLA... many could no longer deny the coaching quality problems. On ESPNU this morning they spoke for 3 minutes or so about obvious scheme issues and the one commentator --- whose name I am not sure of... but who was in no way trying to did NU --- simply said he was baffled by the NU play calling on both sides of the ball and said... "hey there are serious issues there." Coaching problems at NU cannot any longer be denied rationally. So that may be in large part why the UCLA game elicited such a response. The loss was not unexpected... but the epically bad coaching on display was a problem that many wished they did not have to contend with.

As I stated, I was never talking about the majority of fans, as the biggest a$$hole$ are typically the loudest. That goes for anything, religion, politics, sports, etc. My point still stands that some fans are completely irrational about every little thing. As I said, you can be critical of the team and coach but there is a certain way you should go about it if you are a part of the supposedly greatest fans in college football. trouble... that is a reasonable position to hold. that clarifies things and it is hard not to agree with what you said. You are right... there are decent ways to express concerns and not so decent. As fans, we should endeavor to express ourselves in a decent manner.

Bo's fate as the NU head coach may not be connected to a magic number. It could be... I suppose. But factors like public relations, the views of NU boosters on the conduct and character of the coach, the nature of how NU wins or loses (not just if they win or lose), the progress (or lack thereof) of coaching-related problems (lack of team focus, bad adjustments, scheme issues, fundamental issues like tackling technique, etc.) --- all these will factor in. NU will have a reasonably good record... the lack of quality of the opponents ensures this. So... I am not sure that the fate of Bo here is connected to a singular parameter such as number of wins... that will be a factor along with these other factors (and likely more... such as how Bo responds to the AD in this situation.) That said, if NU were really to stumble and get say only 7 or so wins... that would not play well for Bo... not so much an issue of failing to get a magic number as it would be just another piece of evidence. To win less than 9 with this schedule would be ... unimpressive.

Trouble: You know this ... I am sure. In the age of social media where anyone has a forum simply by posting or tweeting --- well given the vast numbers of people who can and do comment... every fan base everywhere will have a massive subset of what is posted (or tweeted) that fails to meet the criteria of "constructive criticism." That is the nature of the times. If the standard for being great fans (characterizing the millions of fans for a program) is the content of the posts of a few hundred or so people --- and the expectation for the content is "constructive criticism" well then... no program has good fans. As to the notion that posters post "pure hate and irrationality" well... that is endeavoring to ascribe a motive to a poster's content. that is something we really cannot do with accuracy. I cannot assert that when a poster is displaying strong opinions that those opinions flow from hate --- who knows. Anyway... every program has people leaving early in blowouts and every program has fans who hound the coach --- to do so is not necessarily a sign of lack of being a fan (or irrational or hateful)... it can be a fan in protest of what they think is not good for the program they love. NU has great fans... and as well has a subset (like other programs) of "fans" perhaps not so great.

Actually, the Green Bay Packers are approaching 400 consecutive sellouts. I know they play more games at home each year but they've been sold out since 1965. Good point. They too have great fans. Forgot about the Packers. That really is an amazing thing considering how small a town Green Bay is. And a great deal of that streak is when the Pack were not so hot. I hail from Chicago and so all things Packer are.... well I have amnesia regarding them. But you are right they have amazing fans. Good call in pointing out that omission on my behalf. Still... what NU has amassed is impressive

I do not know how to measure "the best fans" versus the 2nd or 3rd best fans... but I can say this... for 52years (I think) NU fans have filled every seat in stadium. No sports team --- college or pro --- is even close. That is very, very impressive a testimony of fan support. Few places (any?) can state that 1 out of every 15-20 or so persons in the state are at the game. NU is fairly high up on the licensed merchandise purchases list ... given the population base of Nebraska and the fact the NU is not an overly large school (now or in the past)... is impressive. Win. Lose. Competitive. Non-competitive. NU fans are there. Add to that that opposing teams, their fans and their coaches often comment on how great NU fans are in general. Again... I do not know how to quantify "greatest" from merely great... but to ascribe something less than great to NU fans seems to be indefensible. NU football has great fans.

in an effort to talk football... and not those distractions circulating around football... Against SDSU, I'd like to see the defense play very aggressively, physically and in the attack mode. Blitz often. Stunt a great deal. Send defensive backs on a blitz or two. let the D get aggressive. The SDSU game is important to NU as a preparation for the conference. this needs to be an intense effort where the D plays violently and with edge... even if NU is up by 40 points.

forgot the last point from the preceding post. It too would be great to see Tommy Armstrong contributing to some of those 400+ yards rushing and perhaps getting a half dozen or so passes under his belt. Would like to see him in the game early 3rd quarter or so. We need him somewhat seasoned so that if needed down the stretch he will have had at least some experience.

I hope this week the Huskers go to a ground and pound offense and just basically scrimmage the power running game. Relentless.... keep at it and work out the execution of that aspect of the game. Pound. Pound and Pound again. ferociously and violently. Keep rotating our excellent backs and pound them into oblivion. Getting the flow of the running game in shape before conference time I think would be a great thing. Also... in the framework of ground and pound, I hope they work hard at perfecting the opposite of what the O has been endeavoring to do of late --- clock control. Run the ball... line up slowly, let the clock go to 1-3 seconds and run it again. Keep our D off the field. None of this will be needed, per se, to beat the Jacks this week --- but the practice for the conference games can be of great value. In preparation for Illinois, it would be nice to be coming off a 400 yard plus running game against SDSU.

keep rooting for the team and go to the games and cheer like mad. We all want to see NU football rise up from this. For our part, we cheer. I am out of state and so cannot be at games... but for those of you who are in Nebraska... go and cheer the players on and keep the stands filled with fans.

l do you think Bo has jeopardized the sell out streak? The sellout streak is one of the last few things we Husker fans have left. If the fan base throws a temper tantrum over Bo Pelini and ends that streak they'll regret it. Five, ten years from now when Bo's gone and we cherish the last few traditions and streaks we have left nobody is going to be happy that we threw it away over this. true enough. support the program. NU is bigger than football and NU football is bigger than the coach. Support NU and the football program and go to the games --- no matter what the view of the coach is.

that is how it goes down in many places. And it is the ideal. Every interchange a coach has with a player in any setting --- or, moreover with many players at the same time --- is a professional setting and codes of conduct and ethics should be followed. That does not mean it is always PG rated. But to assert that what Pelini said was in private is absurd --- it was in a professional setting while at work as a representative of the university. He did not know it was recorded... so , it would be fair to say that this professional interchange was not intended for the media... but it was a professional setting.

You're not giving him too much credit. Everyone on this board has said the exact same thing about something or someone they've cared about in private. Many times. umm.. I doubt that. And it was a professional setting... he had his players with him and he is paid to be their teacher/mentor.coach... that is a professional setting. He was coaching at the time. A private setting is several people setting talking and no one is representing their employer as they speak. He was at work... working... not a private but a professional setting. Right, because what gets said in a football locker room or wherever it is compares to what gets said in an office building. Nice delusions. In fact it is. A locker room is to the coach what a classroom or research lab is to a professor. It is where you conduct your professional service to your student(athlete).

You're not giving him too much credit. Everyone on this board has said the exact same thing about something or someone they've cared about in private. Many times. umm.. I doubt that. And it was a professional setting... he had his players with him and he is paid to be their teacher/mentor.coach... that is a professional setting. He was coaching at the time. A private setting is several people setting talking and no one is representing their employer as they speak. He was at work... working... not a private but a professional setting.

Well done. you serious? this is as generic, politically correct, forced and insincere as it gets. Yeah. That apology was well.... a lie. One does not say what he said... multiple times... over and over again... and not have it reflect his feelings. Of course what he said reflected his feelings... that is why he said it! Now... if he said something like..."well that was how I felt then and am sorry for being so unprofessional then... but it no longer is what I feel." Though... that too could be a lie. Really there is nothing he could say other than "I am sorry, I should never have said what I said. It was unprofessional and uncalled for. I have no excuse." then leave it at that.

Will learned from the master.

That's all well and good, but does any of it really matter? This will hang over the program for at least as long as Bo's here, whether we like it or not. The best thing the university can do is make that time as short as possible. There really are no other options for NU at this point than to part ways with Bo and clean their hands of this at an appropriate point in time... season's end. Earlier than that may be unreasonable (or may not... depending on variables we know little about) To not part ways with Bo at this point given this tape would then implicate NU beyond what is the case now. Pelini cannot be connected to NU in any way and have NU not look bad. He is now anathema ... by his own conduct (his performance, or lack thereof notwithstanding) That's so extremely overblown it's not even funny. Oklahoma State has players getting money and sex for playing Miami has the same thing USC Ohio State Penn State and we're mad because Bo said f**k the fans when the irritability was the highest. This.... Is..... Ridiculous.... Mad is not the issue. Public relations is the issue. The schools you mentioned all had to have public response to the conduct issues at hand --- and most of those responses were straight forward because those implicated were, in most cases, no longer at the school. For each program there was a public relations response and NU will as well have to have one. Now... a difference is that Bo is still currently employed. The PR issue is more sensitive and more complicated. Is the crime as egregious as some you mentioned at the other schools? No. But it is still an image issue and NU does not want (I would think) an image issue by connection to Bo. Breaking that connection gains NU more than retaining him.

That's all well and good, but does any of it really matter? This will hang over the program for at least as long as Bo's here, whether we like it or not. The best thing the university can do is make that time as short as possible. There really are no other options for NU at this point than to part ways with Bo and clean their hands of this at an appropriate point in time... season's end. Earlier than that may be unreasonable (or may not... depending on variables we know little about) To not part ways with Bo at this point given this tape would then implicate NU beyond what is the case now. Pelini cannot be connected to NU in any way and have NU not look bad. He is now anathema ... by his own conduct (his performance, or lack thereof notwithstanding)

If that was true, no one would coach in the SEC. That is fairly easy... conduct yourself in such a way as to be unconcerned with whether you are recorded or not. If your character is good you have no fear of cameras or recording devices. pretty simple. Let them watch... if you conduct yourself appropriately you have no issues.

Private or not... matters not. That was immature, unwise, arrogant, unprofessional and damaging... even if only his intended audience heard it. Inexcusable.