Guy Chamberlin

I think that the QB with fumblitis was TMart due to him always trying to reach out the football to gain a half of a yard. Martinez and Armstrong have the same instinct, whether running or passing, and it's what the NBA pundits call "hero ball." You know you're an exciting player and you can make exciting things happen, but you never quite learn when it's smarter to tuck the ball and declare the play over. Somehow the whole turnover issue on both sides of the ball goes to the same issue of fundamentals, discipline and desire. Especially since the turnover issue appears to parallel the spike in penalties. Somebody with more discipline and desire can look up Nebraska's past decade of penalties.

I've got a question. Why this thread? Especially since you've already reached a conclusion without waiting for an answer.

Bo had it hard. Riley has it easy. Yes. We get it.

2012 was far and away an easier path to the CCG than this season. You know fellas, this making excuses thing works both ways. How do you reach that conclusion? Three teams in NU's division finished ranked that year. NU's cross division games were against teams that went 28-10, including penn st and Ohio st who went 20-4. Only 2 conf opponents finished with a losing record and one of those was a 6-7 bowl team. And NU lost only one of those games. I highly doubt this year's schedule will play out that way. The Big 10 had one really good team in 2012. Ohio State thrashed Nebraska, but was ineligible for the post-season because of sanctions. So the only thing between Nebraska, a Big 10 championship and a major bowl appearance was an unranked 5 loss Wisconsin team they'd edged earlier in the season. It won't get any easier than that. Michigan State was 3-5 in the Big 10 in 2012. Iowa was 2-6. Penn State was pretty good. We beat a Michigan team that was #20. A decent win. This year we play Northwestern, Wisconsin, Indiana, Iowa and Ohio State on the road. That's not easier than our 2012 schedule. I thought it was common knowledge that the Big 10 had hit a historic low around the time of expansion, with very weak out-of-conference play across the board, save for Ohio State. The conference had an upswing in 2014 and is considered better top to bottom today.

2012 was far and away an easier path to the CCG than this season. You know fellas, this making excuses thing works both ways.

LOL "Transition"... was the first excuse churned out by the excuse making machine. But that was only good for one year and they needed a longer term excuse. So they had the excuse making machine spit out "rebuilding". The "transition" excuse will last for several years because "program was more toxic than expected from previous coach" and "players aren't buying in" so we need to "wait until new coach gets his own recruits" Unfortunately you are correct. That's why I used the term "litany" and "endless" to describe the excuses. So lets review the list of excuses churned out by the excuse making machine so far... 1. Transition 2. Program was more toxic then expected from previous coach 3. Players aren't buying in 4. We need to wait until new coach gets his own recruits 5. Blame the players 6. Blame the assistant coaches 7.Rebuilding Oh heck why even count... the list is endless. Endless? I would expect some improvement this season, but it's hard to imagine all the pieces falling into place, especially on defense. Next season the Riley recruits will outnumber the previous regime's, and systems will be solidified. That's three seasons to see if the Huskers are Big 10 contenders under Riley. I would expect your particular list of excuses to end there. I think the excuses for this past season, including the coach blaming himself, were about right. No they aren't. They're the same regurgitated excuses that have been used to escape responsibility by those in charge for the last 18 years. We need responsibility... accountability... NO MORE EXCUSES I think you're being psycho. I don't care what you think. Your inability to deal with honesty and reality is your problem not mine. Check your screen name. Honestly. BTW....which part of giving Mike Riley three seasons before declaring Armageddon strikes you as unrealistic?

LOL "Transition"... was the first excuse churned out by the excuse making machine. But that was only good for one year and they needed a longer term excuse. So they had the excuse making machine spit out "rebuilding". The "transition" excuse will last for several years because "program was more toxic than expected from previous coach" and "players aren't buying in" so we need to "wait until new coach gets his own recruits" Unfortunately you are correct. That's why I used the term "litany" and "endless" to describe the excuses. So lets review the list of excuses churned out by the excuse making machine so far... 1. Transition 2. Program was more toxic then expected from previous coach 3. Players aren't buying in 4. We need to wait until new coach gets his own recruits 5. Blame the players 6. Blame the assistant coaches 7.Rebuilding Oh heck why even count... the list is endless. Endless? I would expect some improvement this season, but it's hard to imagine all the pieces falling into place, especially on defense. Next season the Riley recruits will outnumber the previous regime's, and systems will be solidified. That's three seasons to see if the Huskers are Big 10 contenders under Riley. I would expect your particular list of excuses to end there. I think the excuses for this past season, including the coach blaming himself, were about right. No they aren't. They're the same regurgitated excuses that have been used to escape responsibility by those in charge for the last 18 years. We need responsibility... accountability... NO MORE EXCUSES I think you're being psycho.

LOL "Transition"... was the first excuse churned out by the excuse making machine. But that was only good for one year and they needed a longer term excuse. So they had the excuse making machine spit out "rebuilding". The "transition" excuse will last for several years because "program was more toxic than expected from previous coach" and "players aren't buying in" so we need to "wait until new coach gets his own recruits" Unfortunately you are correct. That's why I used the term "litany" and "endless" to describe the excuses. So lets review the list of excuses churned out by the excuse making machine so far... 1. Transition 2. Program was more toxic then expected from previous coach 3. Players aren't buying in 4. We need to wait until new coach gets his own recruits 5. Blame the players 6. Blame the assistant coaches 7.Rebuilding Oh heck why even count... the list is endless. Endless? I would expect some improvement this season, but it's hard to imagine all the pieces falling into place, especially on defense. Next season the Riley recruits will outnumber the previous regime's, and systems will be solidified. That's three seasons to see if the Huskers are Big 10 contenders under Riley. I would expect your particular list of excuses to end there. I think the excuses for this past season, including the coach blaming himself, were about right.

Agree 100%. Trump must be stopped. I have no words for the stupidity of this comment. I know. That's what makes it scary.

Yep.

Seriously, you still don't understand what I am asking? This thread is about gun control, about something needing to be done (as in new laws). What NEW law would prevent this from happening, prevent this guy from getting a gun? NOTHING WOULD HAVE! Well considering he was on a terrorist watch list and still was able to buy a gun a week before he shot the club up, this comment is completely off base. Exactly. Given the choice between stopping terrorists and selling every gun possible, the NRA and its store-bought Congress sided with the terrorists.

More to the point, cars were killing tens of thousands of Americans every year. The government studied the issue and in collaboration with auto-makers and highway safety experts, they reduced automotive deaths per capita by 35%, while Americans maintained all the freedom of their cars. Something like that would be possible with guns, and supported by a majority of Americans, if the NRA didn't treat everything as a hysterical attack on its own narrow definition of "freedom."

Pretty sure it was the opposite. We have everything we need to compete for championships except the right coach. We need a new coach to push us to the next level. So by saying "We want to win championships" and NOT saying "But it will take a rebuild" he was in a round about way saying "We want to win championships and it won't take a rebuild". Is this what you are getting at? Honestly, Redux, you dug your heels in a little too far on this one. Eichorst said everything you're supposed to say when you hire a new coach. Can't raise expectations too high. Can't leave them too low. Can't call for a rebuild after a 9 win season. Can't insult the players by calling them non-championship worthy. Putting myself back in the moment, I don't recall anyone anticipating or using the word "rebuild."

What you've just done here is taken a conversation about how to better regulate the dispersement of guns and turned it into 'here come the Liberals trying to take all our guns." You can pretty it up all you want.. Gun control is contrary to the second amendment! It's tiresome to keep bringing it up, but surely the words "well-regulated" were inserted for a reason by the authors of that sacred document. Oh sh#t. You have a totally canned response for that already, don't you? Fire away.

Who said that? not me.. i said the gun is what set us free, it is what gave us freedom. you can deny it all you wait, but history disagrees with you. History disagrees with tons of stuff on this thread.

It wasn't a poorly kept secret. It wasn't even even decided. Because when handed the Iowa debacle that year, the AD retained Pelini, gave him another year and increased his recruiting budget. His public pronouncements on Bo Pelini at the time were entirely appropriate. Point being: Bo Pelini and the players could have quelled everything themselves by not melting down in big games. They could have saved Bo Pelini and screwed Eichorst simply by beating Minnesota in 2014 in a lower expectation game. They didn't. Even then, most fans didn't publicly turn on Bo and the players. A louder, angrier minority did -- as they always do -- and players and coaches always have to handle that. Blaming the fans for the "distraction" of higher expectations is kinda chickensh#t, eh?

Agree 100%. Trump must be stopped.

Wait. Guns are the biggest reason why Americans are free? Jesus, I get tired of that fairy tale. You'd think there would be plenty of examples of freedom-loving Americans using handguns to thwart the enemies of freedom. And of course you can find stories about the plucky person who chases off a would-be burglar or attacker by having a handgun at the ready. The NRA is good at collecting and distributing those stories. But for every one of those you'll have a dozen people who commit suicide with that ready handgun, or a toddler who shoots himself or a sibling or a parent with that ready handgun, or an owner who kills himself by accident with that ready handgun, or a murder committed in a moment of passion made possible by that ready handgun, or the gun-owner killed by a previously unarmed assailant who used their own handgun against them. And those are just handguns, which nobody is trying to take away from you. High capacity automatic weapons make absolutely no sense unless you're keen on slaughter, or fantasies of enemy invasion. Again, I don't have the answer and I'm not even keen on legal recourse. I just want to know how we got to this place where people think guns make America great.

Well, it's a pointless question, so the answer doesn't matter. Without a gun he was far less likely to be able to kill that many. If bomb-making was easier, more people would do it. OK City bombing was a pretty simple and easily to buy device, fertilizer diesel fuel and a home made detonator. im not sure if this is the angle Redux is going for but it can be done and on a large scale. Perpetrated by a freedom-loving American Marine who thought the country had gone off the rails under Democratic leadership. How do we register and ban those kinda people?

It's also why I won't throw the AD under the bus when the football team isn't winning as much as we'd like.

I just don't see media and fan discontent creating losses. Pressure and expectation? Sure. But what's the alternative? Low expectations? I think it was a legitimate problem that players believed their 9 wins over lesser competition should shield them from criticism when they under performed in meaningful games. ESPECIALLY because they weren't so far removed in terms of talent. Nebraska fans and media have been among the most supportive in sport -- nowhere near as critical as the average NFL city.

Eh, we can have it both ways. We could have done better with the talent we had. We need better recruiting to consistently challenge for championships. I think most of us believed Nebraska could have challenged for something in Riley's first year, and Eichorst wouldn't have been wrong to encourage it.

Mr. Jet Sweep Yeah, but unless he's also targeted as a receiving threat, Mr. Jet Sweep will be telegraphing every jet sweep. Actually, every wide-receiver should be getting his share of jet sweeps.

I didn't think 2015 would have been a re-building year for Pelini. Too much returning talent for that. I thought motivation, focus and discipline were the biggest problems for Pelini teams, and I definitely expected Riley to have an immediate impact in that department. I'm sure Eichorst did, too. I wanted at least 9 wins last year and no blowouts. No rebuild. Just a re-commitment. When things quickly went south, it never occurred to me that Mike Riley had been a terrible mistake. I sure as hell didn't yearn for Bo Pelini back. I also didn't notice a major change in the system. If anything it was familiar players making familiar mistakes. I won't even blame a New System for the step back. It just looked like a transition year, more personality and motivational issues, some bad mojo, bad luck and bad coaching decisions, the rock bottom chaos of Purdue and a decent late-season turnaround with legitimate hope for the future. (In hindsight I think we really missed having a legitimate heir to Abdullah/Burkhead/Helu at running back. Tommy Armstrong didn't need another excuse to play hero ball. Defense maintained too many bad habits.) Mike Riley had to learn on the job. More than I thought or hoped. But it's not that unusual. I have no trouble believing certain players maintained loyalty to Pelini & Staff and animosity to Riley & Staff. That's not so unusual either, but it can really hinder a transition and Bo is precisely the kind of coach who would encourage mutiny. At least going by the man's own words. Mike Riley owned up to his mistakes and recalibrated his staff. That's a good sign. Looking forward to the next couple seasons as players, schemes and coaches mesh a little better. I think the end of Season Three is a good time for a Reality Check.

The good news/bad news is that Nebraska has a lot of talented receivers who will be stepping up, and spreading the ball around makes sense. But I like the idea of Westerkamp keeping a high yards per reception average. I expect big things from Stanley Morgan, Jr. and Brandon Reiley this year, and history suggests a breakout year from an unexpected player. And I totally forgot about Demornay Pierson-El just now. Honestly don't know how he'll fit into the mix.