Jason Sitoke

Or a bad old fashioned stop watch

+1ing Sean of the Dead will get a +1 every time.

Recruiting will adapt to Scott Frost. Not the other way around.

No interviews.

There’s your straw man. No one in this thread ever said that.

Mistake=something went wrong Smarter going forward=something different, however slightly, should be done

Maybe you should argue with the guy who said ‘we made a mistake’ and ‘need to be smarter going forward’.

As far as I can tell, we all agree that no one was trying to get anyone hurt. Precautions were taken, mistakes were made, lessons learned. And yet...4 pages

Don’t they all?

Yeah. I missed the part about being able to play immediately only in the event of a post season ban being levied.

We should call Frost and tell him that we don't think this recruit is gonna jive with the culture he's promoting. Should see his offer pulled in short order.

Blind grab bag. All you can carry for $5.

I think there is a difference. Injuries on the field are at times unavoidable because the environment is not controlled. Coaches can't, and shouldn't, apologize or take responsibility for injuries that occur on the field unless they are a result of negligence. Supervised training, while intense, does occur in a controlled environment where safety is paramount. Coaches and trainers should take responsibility when something like this happens. If a player herniates a disk on the field....tough break. If a player herniates a disk in a squat rack, there should be some questions asked.

Well I guess we'll have to agree...and disagree. I tend not to be presumptious about what factors led these kids to the hospital. I do know that the current staff is as aware as anyone of any possible shortcomings with the current roster in terms of conditioning. Once again, regardless of the factors, the coaching staff is responsible for what happens, and they are accepting responsibility. This shouldn't happen. It did happen. Take proper precautions, learn and move on.

Why would you donate broken down kidneys? Not even Goodwill accepts broken stuff.

Fair questions. I'll offer my unsolicited opinion: 1- I would argue no, and my reasoning is this: most teams that are where we want to be aren't getting players hospitalized...if that line was being hedged, I think this would be a pretty regular occurence in some of the football factory schools 2-That's a bit of an unfair question. Like asking 'how can you guarantee that a seatbelt will absolutely save my life?' I would say that these are kids and parents giving their absolute trust to this football program and school. We have well paid coaches, trainers and great facilities. The resources and expertise should be abundant to train these kids safely. 3-Whatever the reason...I think it can be perfectly reasonable to suggest: a) this happened for a lot of reasons, and yes maybe we can all feel good about kicking Riley in the ass one more time on the way out and blame him b) we have very responsible individuals that take this job very seriously and this is a bit of a freak occurrence c) Frost is telling us this is serious and that he is responsible ultimately....so it's ok that the fans treat this as serious and hold Frost responsible as well.

Couple thoughts.... This would probably make the lame duck coach tactic less effective on the recruiting trail. After all, if the coach does get fired, you're an instant free agent. On the other hand, can you imagine the fire sale that could happen when coaches are let go? Upper classmen possibly leaving in mass exodus...maybe 4 or 5 of them joining another program together...NBA superfriends style. Not sure that is a good thing.

I think the real problem is the whole guys-in-the-hospital thing. But maybe I misread the story.

You guys must be better at interpreting a black screen with no sound better than me. GBR

We need to make this kid part of our PR team. He is workin it

But Jones is pointing too...and not really at Held. Might be nothing, but count me worried.

They would consume defense with fireballs from their eyes, and bolts of lightning from their arses.

He has very few issues, other than the games.

He is who I thought he was. If people want to crown him, then crown him.