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That's why this is run weirdly, imo should be all the most "prestigious" positions voted on first, then on down the ladder. So HC, then the Coordinators, then the QB/RB/WRs, then the LBs, so on so forth. Like I get that the idea is to nominate only the posters who fit the descriptions, but we all know this is mostly just a visibility/popularity contest and that that's not how it usually works. So you get people like Moraine who is deserving of a better spot being voted in for Equipment Manager. (which is actually why I'm voting for my least favorite candidates for the Recruiting Intern and Equipment Manager positions). If the goal of the mods is to "shake things up" and whatever so that it's not just a popularity contest, then fine. Although don't get me wrong Moraine, you getting to handle all of the guys' equipment is kinda funny...

lol if he posted what i think he posted, then wow

It was awful

Quite the disparity between betting markets and Sagarin for the Birmingham Bowl (7 points vs. 14 points) Florida currently up by 11 in the 4th quarter.

Having fewer playoff spots than power conferences is flat-out stupid.

So Oregon was -7.5 against FSU and are also -7.5 against Ohio State in the title game. Who ya got? I was pretty certain that Oregon was at least a TD better than FSU if not more, plus a bit of a HFA, so I put my biggest bet of the year on them last game. But I also think that Ohio State is significantly better than FSU. So if anything I tend to lean Ohio State +7.5 here? I have little conviction either way so I'm not going to put any money on it.

Buster it depends on whether you count sheer volume, or are using a weighted average or a central mean. Obviously a central mean is probably best. The Pac-12 has 6 teams roughly within that range, and if you stretch it a little bit you can include a seventh in Arizona, just like I stretched the SEC a bit to say you can include that 9th team in Texas A&M. But obviously there are only 12 teams in the Pac-12. That's why the margin isn't huge. I'm obviously not gonna bother to reply to deedsker's stupidity

I've never said that; in fact, I've posted probably 10 times in this thread that they're the best conference but that it's not by a big margin. (The margin over the B1G is pretty sizeable though.) But thanks for playing.

Is that the NFL version of floating your name for the Michigan job in order to get a raise?

You might want to check that math.

This is not how you should be calculating the average point difference per game. You're letting negative and positives differentials offset each other. You should be using the absolute value of the differentials. For those ten games you get a sum of 144. So the average point difference was 14.4 points. This is only the average point differential and doesn't indicate who it was in favor of. But it does indicate the Vegas's spread was, on average, off by about 2 touchdowns. Which, in my opinion, seems pretty significant. If that was my goal, that's what I would have done. But it wasn't. It was to get an idea of how over or under-rated (or over- or under-performing in the bowl games, as a whole) the SEC was. Yes, Vegas spreads are always off because of variance, that's how it works. My goal was to see if they were consistently off by a meaningful margin in one particular direction.

Meh. The SEC may only have one top-5 team in Bama (although man, Georgia might still be a legitmate top-4 team), but they still have 9 top-20 power teams. I don't know whether you call that top-heavy or what you call that.

You can make the case that the Big Ten actually has two of the top 5 teams in the country, although with Michigan State it gets a little dicey and they might fall better at 6 or 7. With Sparty, their two losses, admittedly by sizeable margins, are to the two championship game contestants. However until today, their best win was at home by 5 against...Nebraska (though, they should have won by much more). Other than that almost nothing noteworthy on their whole schedule. A win against Baylor is big though. Then there's a big drop-off to Wisconsin at that ~15thish area, and another drop-off to Nebraska at that ~25thish area, Minnesota somewhere around 30th, and pretty garbage after that

Damn I hate Urban Meyer, I just remembered that

Alright, let's revisit. Bama-tOSU isn't over yet, but I think that with 5 data points from the top of the SECW underperforming their expectations in bowls, we can knock the SECW down one notch. We have a solid trend among those teams. Note that TAMU and Arkansas both did well though. Overall, that division is still really good, and basically the top came down, but the bottom rose up. There are still 6 top-20 power teams, at least, in that division, without a doubt. Bama, Ole Miss, MSU, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU in no particular order (LSU probably last out of that group). The SEC East on the other hand has done well in its bowls. Tennessee still has to play Iowa which should be a completely terrible game...I'm not holding my breath for this result. There was this narrative this season that the SECE was terrible...sure, UK and Vandy are bad, but that division largely was underrated badly. Georgia can easily make a case for being the best or 2nd best team in the SEC. In terms of ranking the conferences? Won't change much. The Pac will close the gap a little bit, but that's all. Oregon, Stanford, Utah beat their expected spreads, Arizona, ArizonaSt, and USC did not. I haven't done the math but I think that they as a whole will pick up some ratings points, and the SEC will lose a few. It won't be nearly enough though. Narratives are fun for some people, and I know many who don't like the conference are glad that the 5 SECW teams lost, and that's fine. Hate away, I won't stop you. One conference that can make a little jump in the metrics would be the B1G... now the thing about the B1G is that the top teams have all done well in bowls, but the bottom teams have been pretty terrible. That's good, perception-wise, for the B1G since most casual fans don't care that Illinois got romped, they just see that Sparty and Wisconsin won. But top to bottom conference rankings don't care - each team is equal. Still, it's been a good bowl season for the Big Ten who was favored in 0 bowl games and could be sitting at 5-4. (Note that despite being 0 for 10 in being favored, probability dictates that the Big Ten would still go 3-7 or so, on average). Still, a good showing for the Big Ten. Things look good for the Big Ten. In the next couple of years, I'm thinking that the Big Ten will be right there with the Big 12 for the 3rd best conference due to the Urban Meyer and Jim Harbaugh hires, Penn State getting back to full strength, etc etc.

Horrible, awful, no-good, very bad throw

Oh dear god 22-yard punt

But really, just watch tOSU's D-Line. They're scary

Bama got issues man, big issues. Well mainly it's two issues - their OL is getting beat - Sims can't find cooper and Yelden can't get established. Also Cardale keeps beating their corners when they're out on islands. Either their scheme isn't effective, or the corners are flat getting beat.