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oope -- i just saw the replay on here -- i was out christmas shopping

The biggest reason this play was flagged -- NO ATTEMP to wrap up --

USC had a great season dont see how NU fans can say they where better -- i just dont see the well if we play up to what we are capable of playing then we would have one -- huh -- so OSU is a lot better that ISU on paper i guess they could say that WIsky is better on papper than MSU ......

IMO here is what Bo said -- We believe we are a better team and USC got lucky -- that is pretty ballsy to say when you got your A^^ kicked in the second half and i would say pretty dang close first half -- take out the Hail Mary -- they missed a chip shot field goal that would have made the score 13-12. Bo gave NO credit to USC and that is just unherd of in a post game interview. CLASSLESS as far as the personel foul late in the fourth quarter -- IMHO i think he was trying to hurt the kid 00 I hope not but he did spear the kid while in a slide

OK with everyone saying NU dominated the first half -- SC had two penalities that extended drives -- both where 3 and outs i think and NU starting field position in the first quarter was like the 45 -- It will be a dog fight for this game -- just keeping in real guys

bobby took his FSU team up to USM and got drilled several years back by a kid named Farve -- they field a team -- it was so bad bobby commented as one of his worst memories in college football

Are these serious replies? If you touch a hot stove do you flinch? If you get stepped on by cleats from a 310lb man w/ any sort of force/pressure behind it, do you flinch/make any sort of physical reaction? Come on man...at least hit preview on your post and read if over before posting it. That's exactly what I meant and I was being serious. Does a boxer flinch when he's punched? No. Would it still be wrong to walk up on the street and sucker punch a boxer in the face...yea. Please, as simply as possible describe to me what you see in the video from before the ball was snapped up until the ref said Suh was ejected. Ok i did not wat to post but I had to after reading some of the comments first the comment about Shu not even looking -- look at the phot he is looking right down on him with his foot raised second the comment about other hits that did not get suspended -- most of those where during a play not in a fight well after the play was over third the comments about the Packer not moving after the stomp -- not sure what footage you are watching -- the one i saw on ESPN he sits up after the stomp fourth and this has to be the stupidest of them all -- he did not even hit him ---- SO WHAT -- he tried -- and that was WRONG -- and I said he should have been flagged and ejected...so obviously I agree he was wrong in what he did. However based on evidence and precedents it would be a lot easier to justify not suspending him than to suspend him. dude -- the evidence is he stepped on someone -- you say with no force LOOK -- that was a full kick -- i dont give a rats a^^ if he hurt the guy or not -- and precedents -- like i said most of the hits that did not cause a suspendion where during a play not a fight afterwards -- there is a very good reason you do not see many fights in the NFL -- maybe some pushing and jawing but swings -- not many -- the Packer was LAYING on the ground it was not even a fight -- if both players would have been swing I might buy your arguement wi5h a fine -- only other time i remeber someone kicking a player while he was down was Hainsworth -- there is your precedents so answer me this on what you think should happen NU plays anybody tmart is tackled and the other player takes his helmet off -- swings it into the back of tmart's helmet- does not hurt him and really only swung it with little force-- only the weight of the helmet

Are these serious replies? If you touch a hot stove do you flinch? If you get stepped on by cleats from a 310lb man w/ any sort of force/pressure behind it, do you flinch/make any sort of physical reaction? Come on man...at least hit preview on your post and read if over before posting it. That's exactly what I meant and I was being serious. Does a boxer flinch when he's punched? No. Would it still be wrong to walk up on the street and sucker punch a boxer in the face...yea. Please, as simply as possible describe to me what you see in the video from before the ball was snapped up until the ref said Suh was ejected. Ok i did not wat to post but I had to after reading some of the comments first the comment about Shu not even looking -- look at the phot he is looking right down on him with his foot raised second the comment about other hits that did not get suspended -- most of those where during a play not in a fight well after the play was over third the comments about the Packer not moving after the stomp -- not sure what footage you are watching -- the one i saw on ESPN he sits up after the stomp fourth and this has to be the stupidest of them all -- he did not even hit him ---- SO WHAT -- he tried -- and that was WRONG -- and I said he should have been flagged and ejected...so obviously I agree he was wrong in what he did. However based on evidence and precedents it would be a lot easier to justify not suspending him than to suspend him. dude -- the evidence is he stepped on someone -- you say with no force LOOK -- that was a full kick -- i dont give a rats a^^ if he hurt the guy or not -- and precedents -- like i said most of the hits that did not cause a suspendion where during a play not a fight afterwards -- there is a very good reason you do not see many fights in the NFL -- maybe some pushing and jawing but swings -- not many -- the Packer was LAYING on the ground it was not even a fight -- if both players would have been swing I might buy your arguement wi5h a fine -- only other time i remeber someone kicking a player while he was down was Hainsworth -- there is your precedents

Are these serious replies? If you touch a hot stove do you flinch? If you get stepped on by cleats from a 310lb man w/ any sort of force/pressure behind it, do you flinch/make any sort of physical reaction? Come on man...at least hit preview on your post and read if over before posting it. That's exactly what I meant and I was being serious. Does a boxer flinch when he's punched? No. Would it still be wrong to walk up on the street and sucker punch a boxer in the face...yea. Please, as simply as possible describe to me what you see in the video from before the ball was snapped up until the ref said Suh was ejected. Ok i did not wat to post but I had to after reading some of the comments first the comment about Shu not even looking -- look at the phot he is looking right down on him with his foot raised second the comment about other hits that did not get suspended -- most of those where during a play not in a fight well after the play was over third the comments about the Packer not moving after the stomp -- not sure what footage you are watching -- the one i saw on ESPN he sits up after the stomp fourth and this has to be the stupidest of them all -- he did not even hit him ---- SO WHAT -- he tried -- and that was WRONG --

someone posted UW was BCS calibiar team -- will be my only post but lay off the kool-aid

How are the calls against Martin BS -- no one has seen replay -- NO one knows what he was called for - All the procedure penalties are fine. We are used to that from the past two years. Yeah, I'll agree that Cotton should have been penalized. He was getting the business but he should have controlled that. Human error there on the officials. The penalties that are BS are the ones on Eric Martin, Courtney Osbourne, and the no-call on the A&M DB. Now, they never actually showed the penalties on Eric Martin so that's an automatic BS right there. Courtney Osbourne made a legal hit on Ryan Tannehill a half second after he threw the ball. Not illegal. Finally, that no-call on the A&M which was obviously PI. Here's the thing, if the DB had just jumped in front of the pass, no big deal. But, he was holding onto the receiver's arm as he did it which didn't allow him to catch the ball. Obvious PI. That, my Aggie friend, is why we are angry. Watch that. Your player should have gotten a penalty like that as well as ben cotton's penalty. Of course, you wont rspond to this post because you would then have to admit that i was a penalty on A&M as well Im in Iraq so I cant see youtube but yes should have been a flag against A&M -- they missed it -- so out of the 16 flags which are bs -- the only one that you can aruge is the late hit -- that was going to get called after 5 other PFs The PI call was going to get the flag cause the ball was so under thrown and the NU prevented Am form coming back -- there is a great pic of it on one of the fourms

How are the calls against Martin BS -- no one has seen replay -- NO one knows what he was called for - All the procedure penalties are fine. We are used to that from the past two years. Yeah, I'll agree that Cotton should have been penalized. He was getting the business but he should have controlled that. Human error there on the officials. The penalties that are BS are the ones on Eric Martin, Courtney Osbourne, and the no-call on the A&M DB. Now, they never actually showed the penalties on Eric Martin so that's an automatic BS right there. Courtney Osbourne made a legal hit on Ryan Tannehill a half second after he threw the ball. Not illegal. Finally, that no-call on the A&M which was obviously PI. Here's the thing, if the DB had just jumped in front of the pass, no big deal. But, he was holding onto the receiver's arm as he did it which didn't allow him to catch the ball. Obvious PI. That, my Aggie friend, is why we are angry. Watch that. Your player should have gotten a penalty like that as well as ben cotton's penalty. Of course, you wont rspond to this post because you would then have to admit that i was a penalty on A&M as well Im in Iraq so I cant see youtube but yes should have been a flag against A&M -- they missed it -- so out of the 16 flags which are bs -- the only one that you can aruge is the late hit -- that was going to get called after 5 other PFs

You are conveniently IGNORING the other half of the argument. Quite frankly the most important part. Two...two penalties on Texas A&M all game. 2nd most penalized team in the league and Two penalies...please address this. Why do you think it was only 2? Do you think every there no missed calls on NU -- look at the batted ball (only one in the game) Hands to the face -- It just blows my mind that you think they are out to take the CCG from you -- if so why let the OSU game go the way it did or MIZZ -- they where the two best teams that you played and would have been the one to pull that. If they where out to make sure you loose you think you get a 35 yard run out of the shadow of your endzone. The Off is not at good as some BR fans want to think. 17 against SDSU. NU is greatly improved but they are not a top 10 team.

How are the calls against Martin BS -- no one has seen replay -- NO one knows what he was called for - All the procedure penalties are fine. We are used to that from the past two years. Yeah, I'll agree that Cotton should have been penalized. He was getting the business but he should have controlled that. Human error there on the officials. The penalties that are BS are the ones on Eric Martin, Courtney Osbourne, and the no-call on the A&M DB. Now, they never actually showed the penalties on Eric Martin so that's an automatic BS right there. Courtney Osbourne made a legal hit on Ryan Tannehill a half second after he threw the ball. Not illegal. Finally, that no-call on the A&M which was obviously PI. Here's the thing, if the DB had just jumped in front of the pass, no big deal. But, he was holding onto the receiver's arm as he did it which didn't allow him to catch the ball. Obvious PI. That, my Aggie friend, is why we are angry.

For me the roughing call was the bad call, which obviously gave you guys the lead. I had a big problem with the fact that #71(I believe) from your O-Line was never penalized for holding. There are easily 4 obvious holds during that game that should have been called. I don't think it was necessary to penalize our player twice on the kick, but that's just my opinion. They had two throw two flags on Cotton the kick and the stuf aftward -- they where not for the same thing but a lot of people on here is complaining about the two flags -- Accoring to the rules he should have been ejected!

Cotton was flags where legit -- one was for the kick and the other was for what he said after the pile was up. They did not show it but you her brent say now there are flags all over the place. He should have been ejected!

This is a great post! Yes the flag against Cotton was correct and the second one against him was for him saying something! The only flag that was questionable is the late hit-- after 5 PFs, so you really think they where not going to call ANYTHING close

So out of the 16 flags which where not earned Cotton kick -- going to get called every time -- the second flag was after he said something to the ref Martins 2 -- No replay so no one one can say what was done or said Bo -- really after dropping the f bomb to the ref PI which one the one where the back is on the ground -- or the one where the back has his arm hooked around the chest The only call that is questionalbe and IMO a bad call the late hit on the qb -- and after 5 PFs did you not think that would be called. Anything even close was going to be called then you have all the false starts and such -- only 2 holding calls and if the refs where out to screw NU that is the easies call to do it on If they where trying to make sure you lost why let a 35 yard run stand out of the end zone.

I still say that the 5 other PFs before this hit cause the flag to be thrown -- they where going to call ANYTHING close --

As I already said, I don't disagree with you, but that is not at all the point of this thread. Cotton flags where justified -- he kicked a player -- and then said something to the ref -- YES the ref missed the ball grab but he saw the kick and HAD to throw that flag even if the saw the ball grab he would have still thre the flag for the kick. If the fix was in Cotton would have spent the rest of the game in the locker room and would not be playing next week. Just like a punch being thrown! It looked like Bo hit ref with his play card, if so he will writing a check this week. The two calls on Martin, never saw a replay, so I can't say if legit or not. The late hit on the QB was questionable, but after 5 PFs called against NU - anything close was going to be called. Should the PI flag been a no call-- IDK you can hook as long as you dont hold or pull the player. NU did not play well in this game! Refs did them no favors but NU caused a lot of this on their own. 6 PFs! sorry should have said you can make contact not hook them-- hooking will get called

As I already said, I don't disagree with you, but that is not at all the point of this thread. Cotton flags where justified -- he kicked a player -- and then said something to the ref -- YES the ref missed the ball grab but he saw the kick and HAD to throw that flag even if the saw the ball grab he would have still thre the flag for the kick. If the fix was in Cotton would have spent the rest of the game in the locker room and would not be playing next week. Just like a punch being thrown! It looked like Bo hit ref with his play card, if so he will writing a check this week. The two calls on Martin, never saw a replay, so I can't say if legit or not. The late hit on the QB was questionable, but after 5 PFs called against NU - anything close was going to be called. Should the PI flag been a no call-- IDK you can hook as long as you dont hold or pull the player. NU did not play well in this game! Refs did them no favors but NU caused a lot of this on their own. 6 PFs!

He was just standing there getting ready to do his post-game show and your gem of a coach went by and trashed his camera. They have it on video, so have fun with that. I thought it was a hard fought game that went down to the wire. I still think you guys are a class fan base and I wish you guys the best in the Big 10. Pelini boys need to be medicated. I think you have a class fan base as well and wish you the best in the Big 12 or what's left of it also but if anything your gem of a player in the video below needs/deserves much more than being medicated. He should have been ejected immediately and for the rest of the season taboot. I'm not going to condone this behavior or say that it is right. But this kind of stuff happens at the bottom of these piles every single game. It doesn't matter who is playing. I have a good friend who played college ball about 5 years ago at another college in Texas. He said there was more punching and grabbing at the bottom of these piles than anyone ever sees. Thing is, in this particular game, your guy tried to rape our guy and then we got penalized 30 yards. NU got 15 yards for the kick -- and 15 yards for him saying something to the ref -- all i am saying is the ref missed the grab -- it happen i remeber Vick Jr stepping on a UL player a couple years ago and the VT coaches sit him down after it was played on Jumbo screen. How many players have been flagged for the second swing. A&M players should have been ejected but the ref saw the kick

I can The first foul happen during the play, the other happen as a dead ball. If you listen to the game you hear bret say now there are flags all over the place -- so the kick got him 15 -- has to be called and could have led to ejection -- IMO he said something to get the other one

Bad call on the late hit on QB -- but no way NU is going to get anything now

It definitely was. I saw it clear as day, too. Missed calls on both sides -- take a look at the play where the ball was knocked down -- when a&m was down on there goalline -- hands to the face was missed