Pedro Guerrero Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Bob Stoops or Mack Brown. Stoops was his #1 Quote Link to comment
motorboatjonesNU Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Frank was 2nd in command - and had been for awhile AND wasn't going to shake up the staff. Until things got bad and then he started forcing(firing) people to retire because of his short(play on words) comings as a Head Coach. The irony in not wanting to bring someone from outside the program due to coaching losing their jobs. True. And those changes SHOULD HAVE been made after 2002. I'm just saying... TO didn't want Byrne to bring in someone outside who would clean house completely - which I respect. Quote Link to comment
Pedro Guerrero Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Frank was 2nd in command - and had been for awhile AND wasn't going to shake up the staff. Until things got bad and then he started forcing(firing) people to retire because of his short(play on words) comings as a Head Coach. The irony in not wanting to bring someone from outside the program due to coaching losing their jobs. True. And those changes SHOULD HAVE been made after 2002. I'm just saying... TO didn't want Byrne to bring in someone outside who would clean house completely - which I respect. Agreed. Quote Link to comment
HuskerNCo Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Jesus H. Christ thank you for saying that. TO is not god despite what others may think. (and I'll get killed for saying that) IMO this mess is his fault Are you saying thsi because of his retiring or him calling his shot for naming Frank? He probably deserved to call his shot - and I respect that he didn't want new blood because his assistants would be out of a job. He was a big believer in that jobs shouldn't be lost simply because he wanted to retire. Frank was 2nd in command - and had been for awhile AND wasn't going to shake up the staff. Him thinking he had the power and authority to name his successor and being insistant upon it. Pretty arrogant. Quote Link to comment
motorboatjonesNU Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Jesus H. Christ thank you for saying that. TO is not god despite what others may think. (and I'll get killed for saying that) IMO this mess is his fault Are you saying thsi because of his retiring or him calling his shot for naming Frank? He probably deserved to call his shot - and I respect that he didn't want new blood because his assistants would be out of a job. He was a big believer in that jobs shouldn't be lost simply because he wanted to retire. Frank was 2nd in command - and had been for awhile AND wasn't going to shake up the staff. Him thinking he had the power and authority to name his successor and being insistant upon it. Pretty arrogant. No, it's being dedicated to your assistants. When the CEO of a bank retires, does the staff directly under them get fired? No. Quote Link to comment
BIGREDFAN_in_OMAHA Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 If TO were god he wouldn't be anti-porn. There are a lot of what's ifs with the great Tom Osborne. He has admitted he regrets leaving. Wish he didn't. Bill Byrne let him name his successor. Wish he didn't. The claims he didn't want to deal with scholarship limits or the Big XII have been around about as long as he's been gone. Who knows? His 96 recruiting class was outstanding. If he didn't retire how would the 1997 and following classes have been? Too many what's..... Quote Link to comment
HuskerNCo Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Agree. to many what ifs. I'm just tired of everyone thing T.O. would come in and wave his magic wand and everything would be all perfect. the past is what it is. We need to figure out our future and I really don't believe T.O. or former players as coaches are are part of the fix. Quote Link to comment
junior4949 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Has anyone ever thought that maybe, just maybe, the reason Solich had to fire some of TO's old hands was because they were jealous they didn't get the head job? When a staff is together that long, I'm sure there are some that thought maybe they should have gotten the call. We wouldn't even be having this conversation if Pudnocker would have given Solich's new assistants a chance. Quote Link to comment
superfloyd Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Jesus H. Christ thank you for saying that. TO is not god despite what others may think. (and I'll get killed for saying that) IMO this mess is his fault At this point you should be dead and out of your misery,, if not,,,, TO would never say he was God. If he was anything he was one humble man. As for Callahan he is no Tom Osbourne, he's not even a Frank Solich. Tom built a great legacy and set a lot of records, Callahan is helping erase those records. Quote Link to comment
kansas husker Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Jesus H. Christ thank you for saying that. TO is not god despite what others may think. (and I'll get killed for saying that) IMO this mess is his fault At this point you should be dead and out of your misery,, if not,,,, TO would never say he was God. If he was anything he was one humble man. As for Callahan he is no Tom Osbourne, he's not even a Frank Solich. Tom built a great legacy and set a lot of records, Callahan is helping erase those records. AMEN Brother Quote Link to comment
huskernumerouno Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I understand HuskerNco's point. T.O. Is not coming back as a coach, the frustration that has engulfed Husker nation brings up a lot of topics and as much as I love our past and respect what T.O. accomplished and as much as I wish he had never left, the cold hard fact is we are where we are and we need to figure out what our future is going to be and not live to much in the past. It is like spilled milk, once it is spilled there is not much you can do except clean up the mess and remember not to spill the milk again. GBR Quote Link to comment
CoachKevin Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Jesus H. Christ thank you for saying that. TO is not god despite what others may think. (and I'll get killed for saying that) IMO this mess is his fault Now it is T.O. fault? What a joke. People have to blame others and look for excuses. Pederson and Callahan ruined this program. Not T.O. and not Frank Solich. Who in their right mind fires a 10-3 Coach? Did you realy think a good Coach would want to come in to a situation where they just fired a Coach that went 10-3, played for a National Championship 2 years earlier and had won 75% of his games? The only Coach even remotely interested was a 1 year wonder NFL reject with 2 years Head Coaching experience. The timing was bad and anyone with a little common sence knew it. Quote Link to comment
newenglandhusker Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Him thinking he had the power and authority to name his successor and being insistant upon it. Pretty arrogant. Then you have to lump Devaney in with TO as well... Quote Link to comment
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